waltjnr 6,791 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 lot homosexual behaviour went on in them trenches, fcuk knows what they went through you can get help,it might help for you to talk to some one, unload your issues! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,875 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 I have read quiet heavily on the subject. Personally I believe it's both, they can be both born and made. The likes of Eddie Kemper, Peter Sutcliffe etc are born....... The likes of mafia enforcers and examples such as the SS camp guards are made......they are made by the institutions they serve, sometimes they are made by the problems they see around them. Now I know (before someone tells me) that the SS was strictly speaking mass murder and not serial killing but the point I am making is, these blokes were mostly not depraved animals......they were educated, had mothers, fathers, wifes and children who they loved with as much tenderness as the next man, Indeed some of them were highly cultured and yet they were committing the most terrible deeds on a daily basis. Whole divisions of men did this, they were not all born that way. It's interesting anyway. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lloyd90 509 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 I have worked with some of the most troubled and abused kids you cam come across in my current job. People are saying you are born with it, I think some are born with "crossed wires", however when your a tiny child everything you learn develops synapses in the brain. If those learned patterns are kept up they expand more and more synapses, if not used or properly developed the brain can sometimes never develop them. This can be seen in young children who are "feral". Eg raised by animals. In almost every case the child when adopted back into society will never learn to talk or function as a normal person. When it comes down to it nobody knows for certain, although I have seen reports from some of the top child psychologists in the entire country and they link serious problematic behaviours back to childhood trauma. These are professionals who devoted their entire lives to the research and in depth study of these things, not someone on a hunting forum lol. So for me I'd have to lean towards the findings of the experts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted August 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 I have read quiet heavily on the subject. Personally I believe it's both, they can be both born and made. The likes of Eddie Kemper, Peter Sutcliffe etc are born....... The likes of mafia enforcers and examples such as the SS camp guards are made......they are made by the institutions they serve, sometimes they are made by the problems they see around them. Now I know (before someone tells me) that the SS was strictly speaking mass murder and not serial killing but the point I am making is, these blokes were mostly not depraved animals......they were educated, had mothers, fathers, wifes and children who they loved with as much tenderness as the next man, Indeed some of them were highly cultured and yet they were committing the most terrible deeds on a daily basis. Whole divisions of men did this, they were not all born that way. It's interesting anyway. Thing is plenty of them are far from stupid, how many plea insanity whilst being sane? Seeing visions and hearing voices like Sutcliffe and Berkowitz is hard to disprove, wasn't Sutcliffe's insanity plea rejected? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 In any nature or nurture debate id go with nature myself i dont think you can put in what nature left out and in the case of serial killers common sense tells me if a person is not born with the capability of evil then a crappy upbringing isnt going to make them evil......i do think environment/experiences plays a big part but without the trait of evil intentions in the first place i dont think it ever reaches the surface......serial killers/evil people are very rare as its the combination of both extremes of nature and nurture.........thats what makes sense in my tiny mind anyway. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Have a go at this quiz I got 36% http://psychopath.channel4.com/quizzes.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted August 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Have a go at this quiz I got 36% http://psychopath.channel4.com/quizzes.html I'm 76% Psycho.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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walshie 2,804 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Have a go at this quiz I got 36% http://psychopath.channel4.com/quizzes.html 70% Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted August 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 82% You need therapy.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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lurcherman 887 13,156 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Give over your not so far off your self 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted August 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) I'm a very mixed up individual, I've killed animals over the years yet panic when for instance I see a dog injured after getting knocked over... I feel no remorse for beating someone senseless yet feel guilty about hurting and embarrassing an individual I know. Edited August 6, 2016 by DogFox123 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 I'm a very mixed up individual, I've killed animals over the years yet panic when for instance I see a dog injured after getting knocked over... I feel no remorse for beating someone senseless yet feel guilty about hurting and embarrassing an individual I know. I think that's called "normal." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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