arcticgun 4,548 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) Not nowdays Arctic Coursing dogs are far to big and only good for judging pace in a strait line. Just my opinion but you want a well bred top end staying / marathon greyhound Iv two Both FREE to cover bitches. How is your pup doing mate bet it's flying away now Edited August 6, 2016 by arcticgun Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 I know of a few good greyhounds . 2 def suited for the job pity there not greyhound bitches got some salukis that would put some pace into them 1 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Cold pint Tounge in cheek But maybe a good greyhound could ' would for most British terrain and quarry ????? But common sense would say if you going too cross one use a coursing dog too mix ? totally agree, I like pures my next pup will be another pure but if push came to shove a tiny bit of Sal lurcher wouldn't really matter. How wouldnt a tiny bit of lurch matter? if you want a pure have one if you want coursing bred then go for that, to much x nowadays even untried breeds .Big difference out on the tundra a greyhound on the track is far different to a purpose bred dog out on the land. Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,432 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Cold pint Tounge in cheek But maybe a good greyhound could ' would for most British terrain and quarry ????? But common sense would say if you going too cross one use a coursing dog too mix ? totally agree, I like pures my next pup will be another pure but if push came to shove a tiny bit of Sal lurcher wouldn't really matter. How wouldnt a tiny bit of lurch matter? if you want a pure have one if you want coursing bred then go for that, to much x nowadays even untried breeds .Big difference out on the tundra a greyhound on the track is far different to a purpose bred dog out on the land.never mentioned greyhounds or tracks, I'd choose pure every time but there's alot of unhealthy inbreds about, luckily there's working chaps importing so things should improve. Quote Link to post
Saluki71 110 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 All you have to know is over 20000 years unchanged, oldest breed of dog, what's the old adage 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'. And yes there are some Salukis that are being passed off as pure that aren't, but that's the exception and not the rule. Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,432 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Not in the know but there's nowt wrong with kizzy pharaoh lines if not bred stupidly close. 1 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Saluki x Grey first cross would be my choice if I was to get another. Quote Link to post
Saluki71 110 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Nothing wrong with the kizzy line or fircruise dawn, there is a guy in South Wales who bred Mars and that is a really good line, mind you I'm biased as that's the line I have. Does tony griffiths still have his line of Salukis? Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Theres no best line , to many variables lines, rearing, training, working etc. also lots of breeders go for dogs that appear to be flavour of the month . Out on the land for a working saluki or in the show ring for a show dog thats where names are made and lost oh and in some cases on the internet. Look at the racing Greyhound out on the Track there is no hiding place, or sometimes unknown stock that produces consistent offspring of quality.. If folk are happy with their charges thats the bench mark. 1 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Not in the know but there's nowt wrong with kizzy pharaoh lines if not bred stupidly close. Kizzy of Barkstead and Pharoe are that far back now in uk lines what if any influence do they have ? As is the cas with lots of dogs that many dogs have come from certain lines and been mated back to so many of the same gene pool its dilution to a great extent I am a believer if you line to close a generation its going to be like adding water to the milk. unless you have a large number of stock and can take a lining from a few generations removed.that has a few different lines interspersed. 2 Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,432 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Agree with you about close lining hence why I wrote it above, kizzy pharaoh are in peds repeatedly so I'm guessing they have an affect. Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Agree with you about close lining hence why I wrote it above, kizzy pharaoh are in peds repeatedly so I'm guessing they have an affect. The reason they appear is that the genepool at that time was so small look at the same lines in all the pedigrees at that time, on both sire and dames lines,genetics is a complicated subject does it mean that a top sportsman will influence his off spring 10 generations down the road no it doesnt. Nice to read about but its the sire and dam that have the closest influence then its the owner and the dog itself. Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,432 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) I don't understand genetics, k and p aren't that far back in tb's sonny or your uk bitch really, and I'm aware of the lack of sals available to working lads, there always has and always will be a lack of sals. Edited August 7, 2016 by Gilbey Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Doris,s Dam was Queen Nellie I think Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) Yes that right DB I mi d that day years ago down with pp I seen your uk bitch out Doris and also seen Doris n broken nose that day too lol decided too use Doris that day as she showed heart n I liked the stamp of your bitch off her think it was couple year later we put Nero too Doris ? I always wanted him too go too uk bred bitch first Can't complain snickers as you know is a contender ? Remember this day your bitch ran another monster same block lol Edited August 7, 2016 by arcticgun 5 Quote Link to post
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