Wales1234 5,546 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 I had a collie x from Hancock and she put me to the test was hard work and as we started to bond end of last season and she started working tidy she got hit by a car and I'm not ashamed to admit I shed a tear she was turning into a real handy bitch and was electrically fast would made a handy lamping bitch but don't think she would of retrieved foxes she didn't have it mentally ! Sort of pushed me away from collie x tbh Quote Link to post
Moja 111 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Always like a good dash of collie in mine, but the better ones Iv had have been collie lurchers ie little bit of this little bit that. Think a dash of saluki in the mix also blends well with collie. Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 I had a collie x from Hancock and she put me to the test was hard work and as we started to bond end of last season and she started working tidy she got hit by a car and I'm not ashamed to admit I shed a tear she was turning into a real handy bitch and was electrically fast would made a handy lamping bitch but don't think she would of retrieved foxes she didn't have it mentally ! Sort of pushed me away from collie x tbh I don't deliberately go after foxes these days but if I did want a collie cross for foxing I'd try to find a litter from foxing parents and I'd choose a dog rather than a bitch. Having said that, the bitch in my first picture self entered to fox and was always keen. Quote Link to post
johnrussell84 2,832 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 I have two with collie in the mix the mum an I bred abut more collie into the daughter. A couple off boys off here have pups. They've been testing interms of skittish of nature a lot of confidence building. The mums probs been my best all rounder to date an the daughter hasn't reached heights yet but is putting s few things to bed 1 Quote Link to post
johnrussell84 2,832 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Mother and daughter 2 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,546 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 I had a collie x from Hancock and she put me to the test was hard work and as we started to bond end of last season and she started working tidy she got hit by a car and I'm not ashamed to admit I shed a tear she was turning into a real handy bitch and was electrically fast would made a handy lamping bitch but don't think she would of retrieved foxes she didn't have it mentally ! Sort of pushed me away from collie x tbh I don't deliberately go after foxes these days but if I did want a collie cross for foxing I'd try to find a litter from foxing parents and I'd choose a dog rather than a bitch.Having said that, the bitch in my first picture self entered to fox and was always keen. I only went to Hancock and I wanted a collie x and couldn't find one anywhere else and I only really tend to keep bitches ! I don't think collie temp suits me I like dogs to love their work and constantly work most the collie Iv seen can be a stroppy b*****ds and have days where they can't be arsed the Bullx I have here now and going to add beddy to them in the future 2 Quote Link to post
'sully' 1,119 Posted August 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Anybody have a collie X that they used just for foxes? Preban of course Quote Link to post
Saluki71 110 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Nice pictures maximus from the halcyon days, out hunting without worrying about who's watching. Collie crosses are good genuine dogs, but they aren't for novice owners or hard handed people, shout or hit them or even just threaten too and your wasting your time. 2 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Anybody have a collie X that they used just for foxes? Preban of course I know of one used just for fox and deer. Was a Hancock too. The fella isn't on here any more though and the dog killed himself after about 4 seasons. Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,546 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Anybody have a collie X that they used just for foxes? Preban of courseI know of one used just for fox and deer. Was a Hancock too. The fella isn't on here any more though and the dog killed himself after about 4 seasons.I know the same dog main reason I had my bitch out the same sire !! There are collie xs that will make fox dogs Quote Link to post
'sully' 1,119 Posted August 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 The bitch I have is off of two pure fox dogs , so the line is there , alls hoping she follows suit. Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Nice pictures maximus from the halcyon days, out hunting without worrying about who's watching. Collie crosses are good genuine dogs, but they aren't for novice owners or hard handed people, shout or hit them or even just threaten too and your wasting your time. .... and the half crosses aren't usually very fast so most folk don't have the patience or knowledge of how to get the best out of them but they can still be quite athletic. Once near Horncastle, the black 1/2 cross dog in the pictures put three hares into a 15 foot gate net at once in one sweep of a field of beet in daylight. No hedges or fence, just 3 ft wide drains either side of the gate and a good strong "trod" running out. He also caught the occasional one in a straight run, both fen and field but that was more the exception than the rule. Hares can see 360 degrees and if a dog is close behind they seem to concentrate behind rather than where they're going. Deer can be the same and will sometimes run into bushes or fences that they could easily have jumped or run around. 2 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) we bitche in the photo had 54 hares in a season great we bitch Edited August 4, 2016 by nothernlite 3 Quote Link to post
breeze 1,310 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 johnrussell .... Lovely pair of bitches there mate 1 Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 I know of a few dogs, collie xs taking all quarry. I went for Hancock bred pup off merlin as that line of border are producing decent fox dogs and good all round dogs in general. Arthur produces the half x borders, which is merlin sire,merlin produces 3/4 bred. The Arthur/merlin bred stuff is throwing good dogs consistently. Can't really say the are one offs as there's various boys up in Scotland down to Cornwall running them with good success. But that's my opinion. Quote Link to post
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