Chinese To Build Nuclear Bomb In South Of England

[BGD 6,436]

Not a single death from radiation poisoning after the Fukushima disaster. I think it's quite telling we have to go all the way back to an old poorly maintained reactor melting down in the Soviet Union to find a nuclear accident with a serious death toll...

 

The technology and safety measures have advanced so much in the decades since Chernobyl that I really can't see anything like it happening again, especially not in a Western country.

[air gun ant 1,666]

is sellafield a nuclear power plant how many do yous need

no mate sellafield is nuclear waste facility. But yes there is a few nuclear power stations over here.

[Born Hunter 17,818]

It could happen again alright' that's why cheap Chineese construction should not even be considered .

If we need nuclear anything ' build them ourselfs with no expense or quality spared.

 

We literally couldn't if we wanted to. With the anti nuclear movement decades ago the arse fell out of British nuclear technology. We just don't have the expertise anymore. We'd be starting again from scratch and that would take more time and money.

 

The Chinks have a bad name from their mass production of the worlds shite but they are capable of producing quality too, especially when under the QC of a Western country. Tbh I don't know much of the details of how this is to be done though.

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

 

It could happen again alright' that's why cheap Chineese construction should not even be considered .

If we need nuclear anything ' build them ourselfs with no expense or quality spared.

We literally couldn't if we wanted to. With the anti nuclear movement decades ago the arse fell out of British nuclear technology. We just don't have the expertise anymore. We'd be starting again from scratch and that would take more time and money.

 

The Chinks have a bad name from their mass production of the worlds shite but they are capable of producing quality too, especially when under the QC of a Western country. Tbh I don't know much of the details of how this is to be done though.

I know people directly affected by it. Universities stopped teaching courses, we stopped research and development and now the experts are retired one of which is a family friend. Why we allow out energy security to be used for politics is beyond me.

[Rake aboot 4,936]

Not Chinese owned and not Chines run.

 

I`ve worked in Nuclear power most of my life and am going back there next month, hopefully till I retire.

 

Safest place I`ve ever worked

[Born Hunter 17,818]

 

 

It could happen again alright' that's why cheap Chineese construction should not even be considered .

If we need nuclear anything ' build them ourselfs with no expense or quality spared.

We literally couldn't if we wanted to. With the anti nuclear movement decades ago the arse fell out of British nuclear technology. We just don't have the expertise anymore. We'd be starting again from scratch and that would take more time and money.

 

The Chinks have a bad name from their mass production of the worlds shite but they are capable of producing quality too, especially when under the QC of a Western country. Tbh I don't know much of the details of how this is to be done though.

I know people directly affected by it. Universities stopped teaching courses, we stopped research and development and now the experts are retired one of which is a family friend. Why we allow out energy security to be used for politics is beyond me.

 

 

I believe a few of the old boys at work started in nuclear research related positions. They're now obviously in the oil industry.

 

We really had world class nuclear boffins back in the day, the country is scattered with old research facilities. Then the country decided to just forget everything it had learnt and buy it if it was ever needed.

[BGD 6,436]

Let the Chineese have a investment no probs

But ffs don't compromise on build costs ect .Steel ' concrete' components ect should be of the utmost quality.

At least get Japanese engineering and quality in alongside our own expertise.

 

What expertise? BH who seems to know his stuff in this area has said Britain doesn't have the expertise necessary to build a nuclear power plant without foreign input.

Edited August 3, 2016 by BGD

[Born Hunter 17,818]

 

Let the Chineese have a investment no probs

But ffs don't compromise on build costs ect .Steel ' concrete' components ect should be of the utmost quality.

At least get Japanese engineering and quality in alongside our own expertise.

 

What expertise? BH who seems to know his stuff in this area has said Britain doesn't have the expertise necessary to build a nuclear power plant without foreign input.

 

 

I may have been a bit dramatic in saying that we couldn't do it, lol. I'll admit that before this turns into an argument based on half truths. We probably could, we still have a nuclear industry obviously just one that we seem to have stepped back from. The investment in UK nuclear power isn't what it was. It's difficult to just let an industry wither and then throw a huge project at it and expect it to be able to handle it. That's what I meant.

 

Simply it's cheaper to buy off the shelf and get foreign investment.

Edited August 3, 2016 by Born Hunter

[BGD 6,436]

 

 

Let the Chineese have a investment no probs

But ffs don't compromise on build costs ect .Steel ' concrete' components ect should be of the utmost quality.

At least get Japanese engineering and quality in alongside our own expertise.

 

What expertise? BH who seems to know his stuff in this area has said Britain doesn't have the expertise necessary to build a nuclear power plant without foreign input.

 

 

I may have been a bit dramatic in saying that we couldn't do it, lol. I'll admit that before this turns into an argument based on half truths. We probably could, we still have a nuclear industry obviously just one that we seem to have stepped back from. The investment in UK nuclear power isn't what it was. It's difficult to just let an industry wither and then throw a huge project at it and expect it to be able to handle it. That's what I meant.

 

Simply it's cheaper to buy off the shelf and get foreign investment.

 

 

Fair enough pal you always seem pretty clued up whenever nuclear power comes up so I'd take your word on the state of the industry

 

Obviously the ideal would be training and investing in our own talent in the field but if we need the power station built in a shorter timeframe than that I don't really see the issue with getting a foreign firm in to bridge the gap, the problem is when foreign investment and talent is seen as a replacement to building up our skills which seems to be what's happening here...

[WILF 47,863]

Ok, let's have it right, we are all talking about Nuclear like its nothing......like its all safe as houses.

Well it isn't, it's one of the dirtiest, deadliest things in the planet......that's a fact.

 

It's safe until it gos wrong and when it gos wrong it's terrible.

 

All this money should be invested in clean research

[Accip74 7,112]

Not a single death from radiation poisoning after the Fukushima disaster. I think it's quite telling we have to go all the way back to an old poorly maintained reactor melting down in the Soviet Union to find a nuclear accident with a serious death toll...

 

The technology and safety measures have advanced so much in the decades since Chernobyl that I really can't see anything like it happening again, especially not in a Western country.

I wish you hadn't said that BGD.........with your track record of predictions! Haha....

[Born Hunter 17,818]

The UK’s current R&D landscape;

 

The UK has established a reputation for performing world-leading research in science and technology, both in industry and academia. We played a pioneering role in bringing civil nuclear energy to market 60 years ago, and are now conducting world-leading R&D to decommission and clean up our historic facilities, overseen by the NDA. We are also at the cutting edge of R&D into nuclear fusion technology, and fully engaged with international collaborations through the UK national fusion laboratory at the Culham Centre for Fusion Energy (CCFE).

 

To gain a clear picture of the UK’s current R&D activities, the Government Chief Scientific Advisor conducted a Review of the Civil Nuclear R&D Landscape in the UK.39 Government funding in civil nuclear for 2010/11 totalled £66 million.

 

EPSRC (£11.7m) STFC (£2.6m) NERC (£1.8m) Total BIS (£18.1m) TSB (£2.0m) Total fission (£29m) Total DECC (£10.9m) NDA40 (£10.9m) Total fusion (£33m) Total BIS (£33.0m) EPSRC (£33.0) HPA (£1m) Total DH (£3.7m) FSA (2.7m) Total other (£4m) Total Defra (£0.3m) EA (£0.3m)

Table 2: UK Government Expenditure on Nuclear R&D 2010/11

 

This level is low compared to some international competitors and negligible for research into future generations of fission reactors and their associated fuel cycle.

 

In addition to the Government contribution, industry continues to fund R&D. EDF Energy, for example, currently invests around £30 million per year in UK nuclear research to support its existing fleet. NNL and AMEC also invest in R&D for future nuclear energy technologies but industry cannot be expected to fully fund this with commercialisation likely to be 25 years away as the returns are too far off resulting in the classic market failure situation.

 

 

 

That's from a government nuclear strategy report from 5 years back.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/168048/bis-13-627-nuclear-industrial-strategy-the-uks-nuclear-future.pdf

 

It paints a less biased picture than what I just did.

 

The foreign investment is to save the tax payer having to fork out for this project and the necessary costs from the growth in UK nuclear industry through training kids up to be our experts. I'm under the impression that this future fleet is considered quite a big project. I think I'm right in saying the reactor designs are established off the shelf type stuff, not in house developed ones. That's where my lack of expertise statement was really intended.

[WILF 47,863]

I'm no scientist but I just can't see the sense in putting such potentially lethal things on such a small island.

 

Responsible people consider worst case scenarios, they don't just pretend it could never happen......and if it happens in such a small country......where you gonna go?........where is anyone gonna go to put a thousand miles between them and it ?

 

IMHO it's f***ing ludicrous

Edited August 3, 2016 by WILF

[Born Hunter 17,818]

Ok, let's have it right, we are all talking about Nuclear like its nothing......like its all safe as houses.

Well it isn't, it's one of the dirtiest, deadliest things in the planet......that's a fact.

 

It's safe until it gos wrong and when it gos wrong it's terrible.

 

All this money should be invested in clean research

 

It has it's risks and when it goes wrong it is definitely worse than similar with other power stations but the risks and consequences are largely overstated by the media and public opinion. Most folks know f**k all about atomic energy and nuclear interactions other than what they have seen on sci-fi films.

 

The fact that many think a nuclear reactor is simply a controlled bomb highlights this. How many folks realise they have a alpha emitting nuclear source in their fire alarms? How many people does the average Joe think died as a direct cause of Chernobyl? Could the average person even explain what radiation is?

 

It scares the f**k out of people because it's unseen, is used in the most destructive weapons on Earth and when shit goes really bad kills you in a f***ing awful way. That's fair enough and all true but not really a realistic view of atomic energy.

 

We should definitely be looking towards less dangerous forms of energy production, but for the time being, me personally, I see fission reactors as the way forward in clean energy. What we know now cannot be compared to what we knew back in the 50s/60s/70s.

 

I appreciate many feel different though.

Edited August 3, 2016 by Born Hunter

[scothunter 12,609]

With respect that is not fear mongering.

Its part of history and f***ing fact!

 

The Russians threw thousands of tons of sand into the exposed reactor to quell the fire. The concrete floor was cracking and underneath was a tad more than a bucket of water lol.

if the reactor had went through it would have gone critical with a nuclear explosion. Taking a good portion of ukraine with it!

i could go look and get links to show you,but cant be f****d

 

documentary on jewtube called surviving disaster watch it when you get half a chance mate