Sirblessed 2,511 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Jeems going by your philosophy we shouldn't work our dogs to any quarry until they are 15 months old .... Is that what your saying ????? That's right socks. Just think how many dogs you have ruined over the years and never even knew it. Lol Made me laugh 1 Quote Link to post
Sirblessed 2,511 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 I never run my dogs young, I wait until they are at least 8 weeks old. F pansy dogs breaking down from bad genetics and breeding - Doug grins INC 1 Quote Link to post
C.green 3,231 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Got a young dog here that was out since day 1 last season my old dog was very good at catching in the day especially in woods and cover so he got his teeth into plenty took his first rabbit ferreting at 5-6 month killed his first daytime daytime hare at around 9 -10 month my dogs are out all the time and I've never been able to keep the game off them until there a year or 2. Even give my dog a few trips lamping from the motor last season and he made some great catches. As already said YOU CANT RUIN A GOODUN if a dogs gonna yap jack or whatever hell do it when going gets tough no matter the age if pushed enough. It hasn't made my dog top class he won't retrieve and if he takes a few knocks he'll run half hearted wich I don't like but its a dog not a machine and when it's on form it's a very very fast dangerous animal. The only time I'd hold an animal back is if it's the ultra keen big strong sort that gets frustrated easily. ive never had a dog that I was 100% happy with and it takes a mediocre dog for you to just how good the good uns are. I see a lot that every dog they own seems to brilliant but how do these owners know a Good dogif they've never had a badun ? Any dog can look good on the same land week in week out after a few bunnies but it's when you give him that stick all over the place you find out what you own. Just a few thoughts folks. 3 Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,485 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Dogs heart and lungs are not developed until 18months to 2years. Over exertion can not only cause physical but also mental damage. Pups should do no more than play run. Being pushed to over exert is bad for them. Biggest cause of defeat in a dog is lack of wind.no matter what the quarry. A dog is not capable of being fully fitness trained until it has finished growing inside its body aswell as out. You can ruin a good un. It happens all the time. 4 Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Dogs heart and lungs are not developed until 18months to 2years. Over exertion can not only cause physical but also mental damage. Pups should do no more than play run. Being pushed to over exert is bad for them. Biggest cause of defeat in a dog is lack of wind.no matter what the quarry. A dog is not capable of being fully fitness trained until it has finished growing inside its body aswell as out. You can ruin a good un. It happens all the time. and the ones they think are the "good uns" could of been so much better 2 Quote Link to post
TALKCHEAP 183 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Dogs heart and lungs are not developed until 18months to 2years. Over exertion can not only cause physical but also mental damage. Pups should do no more than play run. Being pushed to over exert is bad for them. Biggest cause of defeat in a dog is lack of wind.no matter what the quarry. A dog is not capable of being fully fitness trained until it has finished growing inside its body aswell as out. You can ruin a good un. It happens all the time. i think you read to much mate, things aint black and white , exertion , like when kids come in from being out side all day and fall straight to sleep, twins ,ones sat on his fat ass on a computer all day the other helping out on the farm from a young age ,would there be a difference. as iv said before your whole body adjusts to what you do when your young , it most be right because when i was young i could never get a girl friend and iv always been none as a wanker to mates 1 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Dogs heart and lungs are not developed until 18months to 2years. Over exertion can not only cause physical but also mental damage. Pups should do no more than play run. Being pushed to over exert is bad for them. Biggest cause of defeat in a dog is lack of wind.no matter what the quarry. A dog is not capable of being fully fitness trained until it has finished growing inside its body aswell as out. You can ruin a good un. It happens all the time. Are we still talking about triggers pup and the 2 bunnys? Over Exertion ? Quote Link to post
hjckcff 1,738 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 there are loads of excuses for running a puppy. but thats what they are excuses. Quote Link to post
terryd 8,531 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 dog will be two by the time you lot finish 1 Quote Link to post
Sirblessed 2,511 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Dogs heart and lungs are not developed until 18months to 2years. Over exertion can not only cause physical but also mental damage. Pups should do no more than play run. Being pushed to over exert is bad for them. Biggest cause of defeat in a dog is lack of wind.no matter what the quarry. A dog is not capable of being fully fitness trained until it has finished growing inside its body aswell as out. You can ruin a good un. It happens all the time. BS Never heard so much shite in all my life, If you don’t have time to take your dog out, sell it someone who has. Please don’t breed your kids will be stuck in the house until they are 21. Injury prone dogs are more to do with genetics, badly bred curs, and bad luck. You haven’t seen many farm dogs grow up have you? Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,485 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Dogs heart and lungs are not developed until 18months to 2years. Over exertion can not only cause physical but also mental damage. Pups should do no more than play run. Being pushed to over exert is bad for them. Biggest cause of defeat in a dog is lack of wind.no matter what the quarry. A dog is not capable of being fully fitness trained until it has finished growing inside its body aswell as out. You can ruin a good un. It happens all the time. i think you read to much mate, things aint black and white , exertion , like when kids come in from being out side all day and fall straight to sleep, twins ,ones sat on his fat ass on a computer all day the other helping out on the farm from a young age ,would there be a difference. as iv said before your whole body adjusts to what you do when your young , it most be right because when i was young i could never get a girl friend and iv always been none as a wanker to mates Perhaps you should read more,and then you might learn to make a bit more sense when you write. Things are fairly black and white with rearing pups. Just like kids they need freedom to gallop,play and sleep,preferably in the warmer months for pups.If you do not have room at home to provide that then you need to take them out into fields everyday to stretch. What they do not need and should not have is over exertion. That is to say too much. Simple...for most anyway. btw an Ass is a donkey. I think you mean Arse! Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,485 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Dogs heart and lungs are not developed until 18months to 2years. Over exertion can not only cause physical but also mental damage. Pups should do no more than play run. Being pushed to over exert is bad for them. Biggest cause of defeat in a dog is lack of wind.no matter what the quarry. A dog is not capable of being fully fitness trained until it has finished growing inside its body aswell as out. You can ruin a good un. It happens all the time. BS Never heard so much shite in all my life, If you don’t have time to take your dog out, sell it someone who has. Please don’t breed your kids will be stuck in the house until they are 21. Injury prone dogs are more to do with genetics, badly bred curs, and bad luck. You haven’t seen many farm dogs grow up have you? No Ive never reared a farm dog, but I dont think its the same as rearing a running dog,thats probably where you are getting confused. I have reared a lot of running dogs though and I would suggest that injury PRONE dogs are probably effected by genetics if you are badly breeding curs. The bad luck you have had though will be more due to poor rearing. Where have I suggested you do not take a dog out or allow it to gallop and stretch? I dont think I would ever say that.. Too late on the breeding front Im afraid. All mine kids are adult. All reared in the country and the outdoor life. All have out door jobs. 1 Quote Link to post
Sirblessed 2,511 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Dogs heart and lungs are not developed until 18months to 2years. Over exertion can not only cause physical but also mental damage. Pups should do no more than play run. Being pushed to over exert is bad for them. Biggest cause of defeat in a dog is lack of wind.no matter what the quarry. A dog is not capable of being fully fitness trained until it has finished growing inside its body aswell as out. You can ruin a good un. It happens all the time. BS Never heard so much shite in all my life, If you don’t have time to take your dog out, sell it someone who has. Please don’t breed your kids will be stuck in the house until they are 21. Injury prone dogs are more to do with genetics, badly bred curs, and bad luck. You haven’t seen many farm dogs grow up have you? No Ive never reared a farm dog, but I dont think its the same as rearing a running dog,thats probably where you are getting confused. I have reared a lot of running dogs though and I would suggest that injury PRONE dogs are probably effected by genetics if you are badly breeding curs. The bad luck you have had though will be more due to poor rearing. Where have I suggested you do not take a dog out or allow it to gallop and stretch? I dont think I would ever say that.. Too late on the breeding front Im afraid. All mine kids are adult. All reared in the country and the outdoor life. All have out door jobs. I see the wife wore the pants then. Just taking the piss mate lol. I've only ever owned hunting dogs, and most were running dogs, I have made my share of mistakes with them, I hear what you are saying, I start taking my dogs 12 weeks ferreting start in the lamp at 12 months depends on the dog and have had no ill effects from it. One example, my last pure whippet I got pts last month was 14 and retired this year, yes he was well past his best but still going. and I'm willing to bet the pup I'm using now will still be up and about for many years to come. Quote Link to post
Sirblessed 2,511 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Dogs heart and lungs are not developed until 18months to 2years. Over exertion can not only cause physical but also mental damage. Pups should do no more than play run. Being pushed to over exert is bad for them. Biggest cause of defeat in a dog is lack of wind.no matter what the quarry. A dog is not capable of being fully fitness trained until it has finished growing inside its body aswell as out. You can ruin a good un. It happens all the time. BS Never heard so much shite in all my life, If you don’t have time to take your dog out, sell it someone who has. Please don’t breed your kids will be stuck in the house until they are 21. Injury prone dogs are more to do with genetics, badly bred curs, and bad luck. You haven’t seen many farm dogs grow up have you? No Ive never reared a farm dog, but I dont think its the same as rearing a running dog,thats probably where you are getting confused. I have reared a lot of running dogs though and I would suggest that injury PRONE dogs are probably effected by genetics if you are badly breeding curs. The bad luck you have had though will be more due to poor rearing. Where have I suggested you do not take a dog out or allow it to gallop and stretch? I dont think I would ever say that.. Too late on the breeding front Im afraid. All mine kids are adult. All reared in the country and the outdoor life. All have out door jobs. I see the wife was wearing the pants then? Just taking the piss mate. lol. I have only ever had hunting dogs, and most were running dogs, I have made my share of mistakes. I hear what you are saying, I’m just giving my personal experience. I take my pups ferreting any time after 12 weeks and start them in the light at 12 mths (depends on the dog, some hounds take a bit to mature) and see no ill effects. I bet the pup, I’m using now will be similar to the pure whippet I got pts last month at 14 yrs old, and retired this year (yes well past his best, but still going) and has been the trend for my dogs over the last 30+ years. Im not counting the early years as I said i have made my mistakes, and still learning. ATB Doug https://www.(!64.56:886/The-Ferret-Man-1407324296039166/ Quote Link to post
Sirblessed 2,511 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Too young pffft started my daughter young too Quote Link to post
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