Ireland Ballynahinch Game Fair - Exciting New Working Dog Format

[AlbertJ 569]

Albert my mate that hunts with me and has done for a long time week in week out went to Ballynahinch with his wife and young kids, he enjoys almost any family day out extra bonus if it's centred around his likes. He said it was piss poor! Well I'm lying he said worse. They took a dander around jumped into the jeep and drove home. Suppose that's rumour because I wasn't there in person? Just the way content has been removed from this thread! Suppose thats not true either and it's only speculation and I've got an agenda? Catch yourself on you're pissing down dogmens backs and telling them it's raining. You've came on here all summer denying this and that. Are you telling me men I know well and hunt with every year that live and breathe hunting with dogs are that petty that they make up stories about YOU and a dog show on a Saturday afternoon in July or whatever month. Of course the disgruntled show men with their ponies will be at there work but don't come on here and tell constant lies an insult men's intelligence, you'd think a man of your age would have better sense. Enjoy organising your shows for next year while the rest of us our enjoying our season.

When are you ever going to make a post based on your OWN EXPERIENCES? You seem to live your life through other people's experiences - even your alias is 'someone's'! I am afraid I can't answer every rumour, or what someone told someone else.

[AlbertJ 569]

It amuses me that the main criticism of events which PROMOTE COUNTRY SPORTS and give a good public profile to TERRIERS, LURCHERS , FERRETS & WHIPPETS is by people who weren't there and who base their opinion on rumour. This includes BLACKBUCK who hoped that it would snow for Birr - now that's what I call a real supporter of country sports! All of the REAL countrysports enthusiasts including all the countrysports bodies ( including the IWTF) were there to promote the country sports cause both to enthusiasts and members of the public.

 

You can see why the opinion of people like BLACK BUCK doesn't really matter!

Edited October 2, 2016 by AlbertJ

[AlbertJ 569]

Albert my mate that hunts with me and has done for a long time week in week out went to Ballynahinch with his wife and young kids, he enjoys almost any family day out extra bonus if it's centred around his likes. He said it was piss poor! Well I'm lying he said worse. They took a dander around jumped into the jeep and drove home. Suppose that's rumour because I wasn't there in person? Just the way content has been removed from this thread! Suppose thats not true either and it's only speculation and I've got an agenda? Catch yourself on you're pissing down dogmens backs and telling them it's raining. You've came on here all summer denying this and that. Are you telling me men I know well and hunt with every year that live and breathe hunting with dogs are that petty that they make up stories about YOU and a dog show on a Saturday afternoon in July or whatever month. Of course the disgruntled show men with their ponies will be at there work but don't come on here and tell constant lies an insult men's intelligence, you'd think a man of your age would have better sense. Enjoy organising your shows for next year while the rest of us our enjoying our season.

Of course you have an agenda - All of your posts appear to be based on rumour or that someone told you something and based on attacking events that PROMOTE and DEFEND COUNTRYSPORTS. While true country sports enthusiasts including all the main country sports organisations ( IWTF included) attend our fairs to there promote country sports to real enthusiasts ( that we should all stick together) and the public ( that country sports are good for the countryside) You were waiting to jump in with criticism based on hearsay and rumour.

Edited October 2, 2016 by AlbertJ

[THE GENERAL 1,982]

You've really flipped the coin there Albert. Game fairs that promote country sports are no problem it's yourself and the high horse you put yourself on while you constantly lie and refute situations that have occurred and put them to one side is the problem. If you where open and honest I'd say your earn more respect but you incapable of doing so.

[THE GENERAL 1,982]

Also if Ballynahinch was so successful where is all the posts saying "great day out etc."? I don't see them. So the proof is in the pudding, don't be kidding yourself. I was at Moate show, the only dog show I attended this year. A working dog show. It was a great success and the IWTF where present, it was a family day out and raised a lot of money for the federation. All you have to do is look at that thread and see the results and comments. A great success and promoted terrier Lurcher and hound work. Ask yourself WHY when a terrier and Lurcher show can be organised by individuals, yet men and women and children from all over the country and from across the water, travel to it just to take part and meet up with like minded folk and it can be such a success? Yet at game fairs that you organise there is a poor show when terriers and lurchers are concerned and constant bickering between each other. That's the contrast that you can't see. Something is obviously amiss. You organise these events so I'm sure you're aware of the situation. Maybe if you take in people's views rather than taking everything someone says as a personal attack then you might find the answer.

[AlbertJ 569]

You've really flipped the coin there Albert. Game fairs that promote country sports are no problem it's yourself and the high horse you put yourself on while you constantly lie and refute situations that have occurred and put them to one side is the problem. If you where open and honest I'd say your earn more respect but you incapable of doing so.

Of course I rebut inaccurate allegations passed on second and third hand by people like you. And you have the cheek to say I lie about accusation which you have made - now a challenge to you I will give £50 to the IWTF if you can give just one example where I posted a lie in response to any of YOUR allegations. We have organised game fairs for 38 years to promote and defend country sports in Ireland and during that period of time we have had the support of virtually ALL OF THE MAIN COUNTRYSPORTS BODIES and real countrysports enthusiasts who see the advantages of us creating a forum where like minded people can come together to discuss their sports and to promote them to a public audience , in order that if they do not join us they will be sympathetic to us. The fairs are much, much more than a terrier & lurcher show - all of the sports are represented there. But for some reason it is people like you in the terrier & lurcher fraternity who appear to like to voice ill informed criticism on the basis of rumour. I am pleased that you have admitted that you were not at any of our events yet you have had the temerity to make judgements on them.

 

In view of your alias I thought the might prove a lesson to you about how silly it can be when you make pronouncements on the basis of rumour or second or third hand rumour:

"

One of the methods of communicating from one officer to another in the trenches of the present great war is to give the message to one of the privates and tell him to pass the word along the line until it reached its destination, viz., the officer at the other end.

The following story will show how a serious message can be distorted on its journey from mouth to mouth:— Lieutenant A., in charge of one end of the British line told the private in front to pass the word along to Lieutenant B.: “We are going to advance, can you send us reinforcements?” When Lieutenant B. received the message it was like this: “We are going to a dance, can you lend us three and fourpence?”

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[THE GENERAL 1,982]

You don't like answering questions. They are the sentences that end in ? incase you didn't know. If you answer them then maybe you might get somewhere, but you don't. You obviously don't want to for one reason or another. I haven't attacked you personally. I've only asked you questions, so continue to try and flip it whatever way you want while you beat about the bush and call me an anti in the proceeds. Maybe that's why you pay for security at your shows, is it for self protection?

[AlbertJ 569]

Also if Ballynahinch was so successful where is all the posts saying "great day out etc."? I don't see them. So the proof is in the pudding, don't be kidding yourself. I was at Moate show, the only dog show I attended this year. A working dog show. It was a great success and the IWTF where present, it was a family day out and raised a lot of money for the federation. All you have to do is look at that thread and see the results and comments. A great success and promoted terrier Lurcher and hound work. Ask yourself WHY when a terrier and Lurcher show can be organised by individuals, yet men and women and children from all over the country and from across the water, travel to it just to take part and meet up with like minded folk and it can be such a success? Yet at game fairs that you organise there is a poor show when terriers and lurchers are concerned and constant bickering between each other. That's the contrast that you can't see. Something is obviously amiss. You organise these events so I'm sure you're aware of the situation. Maybe if you take in people's views rather than taking everything someone says as a personal attack then you might find the answer.

READ OUR FACEBOOK page for the comments you are seeking! I applaud and support the work of the IWTTF and other groups organising working shows and indeed I sponsor quite a few and give qualifiers to many others. BUT the Game Fair has a more open focus to promote country sports both inwardly to enthusiasts and outwardly to the public. It promotes clay shooting and gundog tests but both also have specialist events. It will never be simply a working dog show although working dogs enthusiasts are very well catered for with unrivalled prize structures and facilities.

[AlbertJ 569]

You don't like answering questions. They are the sentences that end in ? incase you didn't know. If you answer them then maybe you might get somewhere, but you don't. You obviously don't want to for one reason or another. I haven't attacked you personally. I've only asked you questions, so continue to try and flip it whatever way you want while you beat about the bush and call me an anti in the proceeds. Maybe that's why you pay for security at your shows, is it for self protection?

 

 

I think you are the one who liked making second or third hand inaccurate allegations but doesn't like answering questions - I've asked you a question and put up a challenge - now lets hear the answers?????????

 

The challenge to 'THE GENERAL' " Of course I rebut inaccurate allegations passed on second and third hand by people like you. And you have the cheek to say I lie about accusation which you have made - now a challenge to you I will give £50 to the IWTF if you can give just one example where I posted a lie in response to any of YOUR allegations"

Edited October 2, 2016 by AlbertJ

[THE GENERAL 1,982]

I posted my experiences above like you asked. Yet you ignored it, the same as you do everything else as you choose to do. You never replied to anything concerning the posts, you go into the same rant about supporting country sports and x amount of years while completely ignoring what your being asked and to understand. The same spiel over and over again like a broken record then you begin to insult me in the proceeds lol. I don't play games, games are for children, you are a clown Albert.

[AlbertJ 569]

I posted my experiences above like you asked. Yet you ignored it, the same as you do everything else as you choose to do. You never replied to anything concerning the posts, you go into the same rant about supporting country sports and x amount of years while completely ignoring what your being asked and to understand. The same spiel over and over again like a broken record then you begin to insult me in the proceeds lol. I don't play games, games are for children, you are a clown Albert.

STILL NO ANSWER TO THE CHALLENGE!

 

The challenge to 'THE GENERAL' : " Of course I rebut inaccurate allegations passed on second and third hand by people like you. And you have the cheek to say I lie about accusations which you have made and which are NOT based on personal observation or experience: - now a challenge to you I will give £50 to the IWTF if you can give just one example where I posted a lie in response to any of YOUR second and third hand allegations"

Edited October 2, 2016 by AlbertJ

[THE GENERAL 1,982]

The challenge lmao. You don't like being challenged and you refuse to answer questions. So why would I do what you ask? Which is basically name men's names and events on the www. for all to see? Just so you can tell more lies and if you don't like it get the posts deleted. Keep your £50 you've lined your pockets with from other people. You haven't answered a single question that I've asked you and none of them where hard questions just contrasts and things you should think about if you want to improve in certain areas what you already do. You obviously don't want to, it's already got silly so at this stage if your not open and can't have a reasonable discussion, I'm done. It's like flogging a dead horse.

[AlbertJ 569]

The challenge lmao. You don't like being challenged and you refuse to answer questions. So why would I do what you ask? Which is basically name men's names and events on the www. for all to see? Just so you can tell more lies and if you don't like it get the posts deleted. Keep your £50 you've lined your pockets with from other people. You haven't answered a single question that I've asked you and none of them where hard questions just contrasts and things you should think about if you want to improve in certain areas what you already do. You obviously don't want to, it's already got silly so at this stage if your not open and can't have a reasonable discussion, I'm done. It's like flogging a dead horse.

 

Unlike you I would be very happy to answer any constructive question based on facts not rumour. Talk about children - you behave like an old tittle tattler seizing on any bit of second hand gossip or rumour to attack our events - WHICH YOU ADMIT YOU DID NOT ATTEND. You also posted hoping that it would snow on the largest gathering of supposedly fellow countrysports people at Birr. Man up and admit all you are doing is passing on gossip not facts.

[THE GENERAL 1,982]

Also if Ballynahinch was so successful where is all the posts saying "great day out etc."? I don't see them. So the proof is in the pudding, don't be kidding yourself. I was at Moate show, the only dog show I attended this year. A working dog show. It was a great success and the IWTF where present, it was a family day out and raised a lot of money for the federation. All you have to do is look at that thread and see the results and comments. A great success and promoted terrier Lurcher and hound work. Ask yourself WHY when a terrier and Lurcher show can be organised by individuals, yet men and women and children from all over the country and from across the water, travel to it just to take part and meet up with like minded folk and it can be such a success? Yet at game fairs that you organise there is a poor show when terriers and lurchers are concerned and constant bickering between each other. That's the contrast that you can't see. Something is obviously amiss. You organise these events so I'm sure you're aware of the situation. Maybe if you take in people's views rather than taking everything someone says as a personal attack then you might find the answer.

[THE GENERAL 1,982]

Above is based on truth and not rumour, constructive questioning based on personal experience. I can't see any posts saying a great day was had by all apart from YOU, the organiser. Not biased at all are you lol. Talk about blowing your own trumpet. Feel free to reply to the constructive discussion and try your best to leave the name calling out of it.