What Makes A Top Class Dog?

[roybo 2,873]

As said it needs to be there in the first place,I.e in the DNA . Every living thing relies on DNA be it plant fish or mammal.

And it wouldn't be a gene you can isolate,because it would be 1000s in the right combination that would make the great coursing dog.

Then if you could isolate those genes and breed consistently for them,rearing, schooling, conditioning and environment would come into it .

A litter of clones from the greatest dogs of all time wouldn't guarantee a champ.

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

I think you all missed the point here, I'm not talking about rearing or conditioning, surely if it's in the dogs DNA from the beginning then the hard work has been done for you, but unfortunately at the moment there is no test to show this. Some people say the more runs the dog gets the better it will get, but that theory has been disproved over the years, here and there won the Waterloo cup in only the third outing that year and lammtara won the derby on only his second outing, his first run as a three year old. I could name literally hundreds of top class horses, dogs and humans who are better with less runs, so I believe if it's not there in the first place it never will be, no matter who owns or trains it.

This article is only hypothetical as I'm not a molecular scientists but surely it won't be too long before some breeders will be selling pups with a DNA backing.

But I do agree that as long as you love your dogs it doesn't matter a jot.

I don't believe "Here and There" or "Lammtarra" would have had their successes, early or not, without proper preparation and training..

Edited July 28, 2016 by Maximus Ferret

[desertbred 5,490]

I think you all missed the point here, I'm not talking about rearing or conditioning, surely if it's in the dogs DNA from the beginning then the hard work has been done for you, but unfortunately at the moment there is no test to show this. Some people say the more runs the dog gets the better it will get, but that theory has been disproved over the years, here and there won the Waterloo cup in only the third outing that year and lammtara won the derby on only his second outing, his first run as a three year old. I could name literally hundreds of top class horses, dogs and humans who are better with less runs, so I believe if it's not there in the first place it never will be, no matter who owns or trains it.

This article is only hypothetical as I'm not a molecular scientists but surely it won't be too long before some breeders will be selling pups with a DNA backing.

But I do agree that as long as you love your dogs it doesn't matter a jot.

So basically you are talking about the possibility of genetically engineering champions instead of as at present blowing smoke up arses on the internet or have I misunderstood.

[Grunter123 1,110]

Work work work and then more work as much as possible five nights a week if dog can take it

[look up 406]

Internet....

[desertbred 5,490]

I think what he is saying is scientists of the future from a simple DNA test will be able to tell you if your dog is going to be any good.

Thus saving you the hassel of rearing and entering a dog to find it's not much use.

 

I don't agree

There are two many variables

 

Grit

Determination

Toughness

Heart

Desire

 

Then

Owner

Nutrition

Rearing

Conditioning

Entering

Training

Pactience

 

Ect ect ?

Surely the best parts of owning a working dog are those listed lastly. The DNA option is not part of raising live stock for sport its taking the chance out of the equation it will become kennel club dog engineering all over again f***ing breeds up.

[TALKCHEAP 183]

people are living longer now, but i doubt very much the next generation will, in the forties fifties and sixties kids had to walk everywhere, they were out all day nesting rabbiting fishing you name it , i believe your body adjusts to what you do when your young that includes your brain,that why its so important to get pups out as young as possible then your half way there to having a decent dog

[Flacko 1,755]

Agree with a lot of the comments physically feet,wind , etc the dog also needs a good mouth seen a lot of good dogs run&run but need that mouth to do the job efficiently

[Saluki71 110]

I think I agree with most of you, maybe common sense and good rearing is more important than science after all there was none 30 or so years ago and we still had good dogs and horses. It's no coincidence that certain people continue to have a good dog nearly all the time and now and again a real star pops up.

Best wishes to all and thanks for taking the time to reply.

[roybo 2,873]

I think you could clone red rum 10 times ,I doubt you would get a horse that achieves the same.

Every race would be different and so would every day in its life. So although you'd have great horses ,whether you'd get a 3 x national winner again is unknown

[nothernlite 18,089]

One that catches a lot of game

[stone rose 353]

a race is won in a particular moment in time u could cloane a 1000 dogs horses humans etc never to win again because circumstanses would be different on that particular day or year it just isnt achivabel

[mud 2,044]

............

Edited July 31, 2016 by mud

[davey 310]

I have never owned a top dog ! But I do believe the man holding the lead is key . Knowing your stock . I learnt last year not to push or expect to much they are not machines and all have a limit

[bird 9,969]

I have never owned a top dog ! But I do believe the man holding the lead is key . Knowing your stock . I learnt last year not to push or expect to much they are not machines and all have a limit

true, try to put as much game in front of them as well, then you know if they can do the job , by that you know if there good or average .