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[spindolero 1,111]

 

 

Around the same time (Im quessing) as Ken Gould had Smithy & his type, John Parkes had his successful line of terriers, the likes of Monty, Mick etc Did anyone cross these 2 lines "at that time" ie. Smithy over daughters/sisters to Mick/Monty or Mick /Monty over daughters/sisters to Smithy (not generations later) & if so how did the pups go?

Spartacus was out of Parks bitch to a Gould dog I think

Time dims memory but did Gouldy ever put that in his avertisments for the dog. If he did, i really can't remember...? Spartacus was primarily bred for stud and was heavily advertised as such.

 

 

I don't know what was in advert mate, but link below has bit more info and Lahosh from memory was usually bang on.........post #24 on this old thread

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/12518-gould-lines/?p=121713

[Bosun11 537]

 

 

 

Around the same time (Im quessing) as Ken Gould had Smithy & his type, John Parkes had his successful line of terriers, the likes of Monty, Mick etc Did anyone cross these 2 lines "at that time" ie. Smithy over daughters/sisters to Mick/Monty or Mick /Monty over daughters/sisters to Smithy (not generations later) & if so how did the pups go?

 

Spartacus was out of Parks bitch to a Gould dog I think

Time dims memory but did Gouldy ever put that in his avertisments for the dog. If he did, i really can't remember...? Spartacus was primarily bred for stud and was heavily advertised as such.

I don't know what was in advert mate, but link below has bit more info and Lahosh from memory was usually bang on.........post #24 on this old thread

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/12518-gould-lines/?p=121713

Yes mate, i'd take that as on the money, well played for remembering and finding it.

Later he confirms what i knew about the dog work wise.

[Kaizer Sozĕ 266]

Lahosh states father of Black Jack is Nigga out of Simon. Book Terriers & Terriermen of Ireland says Nigger is out of Smithy...can anyone confirm Nigga/Niggers true father?

[spindolero 1,111]

Lahosh states father of Black Jack is Nigga out of Simon. Book Terriers & Terriermen of Ireland says Nigger is out of Smithy...can anyone confirm Nigga/Niggers true father?

different dog i'm pretty sure -

[Kaizer Sozĕ 266]

 

Lahosh states father of Black Jack is Nigga out of Simon. Book Terriers & Terriermen of Ireland says Nigger is out of Smithy...can anyone confirm Nigga/Niggers true father?

 

different dog i'm pretty sure -

Check it out!

[spindolero 1,111]

From memory that Irish dog was smithy both sides and a lump of dog. Kg one was v small so i understand. And in UK.

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

I wouldn't totally trust what the men say in books. They usually tell the odd fib to put the rosette hunters off track in regards to breeding.

[Kaizer Sozĕ 266]

From memory that Irish dog was smithy both sides and a lump of dog. Kg one was v small so i understand. And in UK.

Correct me if Im wrong but I checked out both. 1.according to Lahosh: blackjack is out of nigga & eyeball. Nigga out of simon & witch. Eyeball is out of smithy & a staff. 2.according to the terriers & terriermen of ireland: blackjack (in uk) is out of nigger & eyeball. It then states nigger & eyeball are both out of smithy. ???

[Kaizer Sozĕ 266]

I wouldn't totally trust what the men say in books. They usually tell the odd fib to put the rosette hunters off track in regards to breeding.

couldnt agree more...I reckon the book is wrong lot of miss prints & name mix ups but then again book could be right. I just want to confirm truth!

[spindolero 1,111]

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/88425-show-us-your-patterdales/page-12

 

Look down the page a pic of dog in question. V different from one in Irish book. Think KG one was blind ?

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

 

I wouldn't totally trust what the men say in books. They usually tell the odd fib to put the rosette hunters off track in regards to breeding.

couldnt agree more...I reckon the book is wrong lot of miss prints & name mix ups but then again book could be right. I just want to confirm truth!

 

The misprints are probably nothing to do with the men interviewed but because of a certain author. Mis-spelling and putting sentences together so they make no sense are prominent in most of a certain authors books.

[chesney 5,451]

When it comes to the breeding of diging dogs lads get told what they want to hear it's a fact they pay good money thinking their geting of the quality producing sires/dams when in realty the majority are been taken for a ride been used as pawns and been sold out pups of younger stock and unproven studs and brood bitchs for vast sums shame on ye.

[Kaizer Sozĕ 266]

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/88425-show-us-your-patterdales/page-12

Look down the page a pic of dog in question. V different from one in Irish book. Think KG one was blind ?

there is no pic of blackkack or nigger in the book...there is of a more recent jack...

[spindolero 1,111]

Pretty sure theyre different dogs mate. Its fairly common name.

[Kaizer Sozĕ 266]

When it comes to the breeding of diging dogs lads get told what they want to hear it's a fact they pay good money thinking their geting of the quality producing sires/dams when in realty the majority are been taken for a ride been used as pawns and been sold out pups of younger stock and unproven studs and brood bitchs for vast sums shame on ye.

we dont buy or sell dogs or pups, we give & get free to & from like minded lads. I work old Irish working whites but interested in all aspects of terrier work/breeds/LINES & BREEDING!