spindolero 1,111 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Another fellow knows his stuff.. Quoted below : What an absolute shame.....Gary was great craic, he was a friend of my oul fella's, himself and Gouldy used to have some great sessions up the lakes. I'm afraid all the old boys are ageing, in ill health or leaving us. Times like this i reflect on what they brought to the table of working terriers, i'll only mention REX, if Gary had not of sold him to Ken Gould there would've been no SIMON in turn no NIGGER, then no BLACK JACK and no SPARTICUS, they leave this world but if it was not for men like Gary Middleton the dog world would be one legacy less. R.I.P Gary, god bless. 2 Quote Link to post
Kaizer Sozĕ 266 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Pretty sure theyre different dogs mate. Its fairly common name. It is but as Ive explained both out of nigger & EYEBALL?? just interested No Matter Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 When it comes to the breeding of diging dogs lads get told what they want to hear it's a fact they pay good money thinking their geting of the quality producing sires/dams when in realty the majority are been taken for a ride been used as pawns and been sold out pups of younger stock and unproven studs and brood bitchs for vast sums shame on ye. On the flip side there are plenty of proper digging men who gift pups to trusted friends and give them true pedigrees as they are trusted and there's nothing to hide. As soon as moneys involved then not far behind are dishonesty and lies. 1 Quote Link to post
chesney 5,453 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 When it comes to the breeding of diging dogs lads get told what they want to hear it's a fact they pay good money thinking their geting of the quality producing sires/dams when in realty the majority are been taken for a ride been used as pawns and been sold out pups of younger stock and unproven studs and brood bitchs for vast sums shame on ye. we dont buy or sell dogs or pups, we give & get free to & from like minded lads. I work old Irish working whites but interested in all aspects of terrier work/breeds/LINES & BREEDING! I never said ya did but there is an element does has and always will Quote Link to post
Kaizer Sozĕ 266 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Another fellow knows his stuff.. Quoted below : What an absolute shame.....Gary was great craic, he was a friend of my oul fella's, himself and Gouldy used to have some great sessions up the lakes. I'm afraid all the old boys are ageing, in ill health or leaving us. Times like this i reflect on what they brought to the table of working terriers, i'll only mention REX, if Gary had not of sold him to Ken Gould there would've been no SIMON in turn no NIGGER, then no BLACK JACK and no SPARTICUS, they leave this world but if it was not for men like Gary Middleton the dog world would be one legacy less. R.I.P Gary, god bless. Well if your correct that this guy knows his stuff...then this answers my question & nigger is out of simon & not smithy...so lahosh is right & book is wrong! Thx 1 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 They are different Niggers I think. 1 Quote Link to post
Kaizer Sozĕ 266 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 They are different Niggers I think. Agree to disagree! Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Ive seen two pics of Gould dogs called Nigger and they look like different dogs. 1 Quote Link to post
Kaizer Sozĕ 266 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Your missing the point we're discussing blackjack's breeding. 2 different theories only different by 1 name either smithy or simon. Cant be too many blackjacks out of nigger & EYEBALL. How many EYEBALLS do you know? Bred to nigger to give blackjack????? Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 I never mentioned Eyeball. You were talking about Nigger? Black Jack was by Nigger yes. But which Nigger is the question is it not? Quote Link to post
Kaizer Sozĕ 266 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Im talking about blackjacks breeding... out of nigger & eyeball yes. Question is then is this nigger out of smithy or simon the only difference between suggested breeding!! Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 The proper nigger .we know the one .a dog who always went out and worked well and to a old age. Another dog who rymes with other good ones working and same grit Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Don't know which dog of kg would of been used in the breeding though , which sire .if it was put in then Quote Link to post
tank34 2,358 Posted August 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Did nigger an other dogs been talked about did thay work the rock lads? Quote Link to post
WEDGEY 753 Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 When it comes to the breeding of diging dogs lads get told what they want to hear it's a fact they pay good money thinking their geting of the quality producing sires/dams when in realty the majority are been taken for a ride been used as pawns and been sold out pups of younger stock and unproven studs and brood bitchs for vast sums shame on ye. we dont buy or sell dogs or pups, we give & get free to & from like minded lads. I work old Irish working whites but interested in all aspects of terrier work/breeds/LINES & BREEDING!out of interest what lines is the old Irish whites you keep Quote Link to post
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