morton 5,368 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 How does the box and collar work fair out in rock, surly solid rock hampers signal?rock and earth don't effect the signal but metal can. I don,t like a collar on a terrier in rocks,many a terrier self entering with a collar on,mk.1,s and Bellmans ive encountered irregular readings. Quote Link to post
Rat face 1,655 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 How does the box and collar work fair out in rock, surly solid rock hampers signal?rock and earth don't effect the signal but metal can. I don,t like a collar on a terrier in rocks,many a terrier self entering with a collar on,mk.1,s and Bellmans ive encountered irregular readings. i would still always use a collar, i would rather have a irregular reading than not have one at all. just my views tho 1 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 How does the box and collar work fair out in rock, surly solid rock hampers signal?rock and earth don't effect the signal but metal can. I don,t like a collar on a terrier in rocks,many a terrier self entering with a collar on,mk.1,s and Bellmans ive encountered irregular readings. i would still always use a collar, i would rather have a irregular reading than not have one at all. just my views tho Ive argued more about a terrier with and without a collar on than any other subject,apart from working Bedlingtons.Ill guarantee you will have entered terriers in certain rock piles that a collar would have been useless in,plus they certainly snag terriers at times and rescue others at other times.The olde lads worked well enough without them,im not as confident or educated enough to share their company,yet the olde lads worked rock terriers far better than any of us,without the aid of a collar and box.I once removed about 3 tonne of stone,on a mark, then worked to the sound of the terrier another 2 tonne to the left. Quote Link to post
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 How does the box and collar work fair out in rock, surly solid rock hampers signal? rock and earth don't effect the signal but metal can. I don,t like a collar on a terrier in rocks,many a terrier self entering with a collar on,mk.1,s and Bellmans ive encountered irregular readings. i would still always use a collar, i would rather have a irregular reading than not have one at all. just my views tho Ive argued more about a terrier with and without a collar on than any other subject,apart from working Bedlingtons.Ill guarantee you will have entered terriers in certain rock piles that a collar would have been useless in,plus they certainly snag terriers at times and rescue others at other times.The olde lads worked well enough without them,im not as confident or educated enough to share their company,yet the olde lads worked rock terriers far better than any of us,without the aid of a collar and box.I once removed about 3 tonne of stone,on a mark, then worked to the sound of the terrier another 2 tonne to the left. Bet that made you cry! Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) How does the box and collar work fair out in rock, surly solid rock hampers signal?rock and earth don't effect the signal but metal can.I don,t like a collar on a terrier in rocks,many a terrier self entering with a collar on,mk.1,s and Bellmans ive encountered irregular readings.i would still always use a collar, i would rather have a irregular reading than not have one at all. just my views thoIve argued more about a terrier with and without a collar on than any other subject,apart from working Bedlingtons.Ill guarantee you will have entered terriers in certain rock piles that a collar would have been useless in,plus they certainly snag terriers at times and rescue others at other times.The olde lads worked well enough without them,im not as confident or educated enough to share their company,yet the olde lads worked rock terriers far better than any of us,without the aid of a collar and box.I once removed about 3 tonne of stone,on a mark, then worked to the sound of the terrier another 2 tonne to the left. Bet that made you cry! 5 tonne was pish in the day,geez i cry now if ive to turn a small boulder over,without the aid of the FMWTC,or Tush. Edited August 7, 2016 by morton Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) There's places like that around me but I'd never dear let a dog into them properly stems back from all the older guys around me say never let them in you'll never see them again lol Many years ago searching for rabbiting permission in the Dales a gamekeeper asked about the leggy russel i had running at heel,he invited me onto his land and pointed to a little pile of rocks that covered about 1/2 an acre of the valley at the side of his cottage,"allus a fox in there" he quipped and asked me to enter the terrier,a test for the said permission i thought.Not a fecking chance i said,he gave me permission then recounted a few tales of many a useful terrier that never made its way out of his garden rockpile,twat.Ive owned terriers since that id have readily entered,only 2.Denis Lund if memory serves. Edited August 7, 2016 by morton Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 How does the box and collar work fair out in rock, surly solid rock hampers signal?rock and earth don't effect the signal but metal can.I don,t like a collar on a terrier in rocks,many a terrier self entering with a collar on,mk.1,s and Bellmans ive encountered irregular readings.i would still always use a collar, i would rather have a irregular reading than not have one at all. just my views thoIve argued more about a terrier with and without a collar on than any other subject,apart from working Bedlingtons.Ill guarantee you will have entered terriers in certain rock piles that a collar would have been useless in,plus they certainly snag terriers at times and rescue others at other times.The olde lads worked well enough without them,im not as confident or educated enough to share their company,yet the olde lads worked rock terriers far better than any of us,without the aid of a collar and box.I once removed about 3 tonne of stone,on a mark, then worked to the sound of the terrier another 2 tonne to the left. Bet that made you cry! Many a rock holding spot around here is known by the time it took to rescue a terrier or the time it took a terrier to emerge from the stone,3 day hold,7 day hold,10 day hold and 10 day hold was not uncommon,especially around the Grippon before it was mucked over.It was commonplace to enter a mutt around here and spend more days than hours awaiting,honest terriers,honest days and a small inclination of what earlier terrierfolk took as standard.I wish i could own or breed the standard of terrier that was once the norm,i possibly have a better footing than the majority,id cull most of mine to own a second rate mutt of yesteryear. Quote Link to post
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 How does the box and collar work fair out in rock, surly solid rock hampers signal? rock and earth don't effect the signal but metal can.I don,t like a collar on a terrier in rocks,many a terrier self entering with a collar on,mk.1,s and Bellmans ive encountered irregular readings.i would still always use a collar, i would rather have a irregular reading than not have one at all. just my views thoIve argued more about a terrier with and without a collar on than any other subject,apart from working Bedlingtons.Ill guarantee you will have entered terriers in certain rock piles that a collar would have been useless in,plus they certainly snag terriers at times and rescue others at other times.The olde lads worked well enough without them,im not as confident or educated enough to share their company,yet the olde lads worked rock terriers far better than any of us,without the aid of a collar and box.I once removed about 3 tonne of stone,on a mark, then worked to the sound of the terrier another 2 tonne to the left.Bet that made you cry! Many a rock holding spot around here is known by the time it took to rescue a terrier or the time it took a terrier to emerge from the stone,3 day hold,7 day hold,10 day hold and 10 day hold was not uncommon,especially around the Grippon before it was mucked over.It was commonplace to enter a mutt around here and spend more days than hours awaiting,honest terriers,honest days and a small inclination of what earlier terrierfolk took as standard.I wish i could own or breed the standard of terrier that was once the norm,i possibly have a better footing than the majority,id cull most of mine to own a second rate mutt of yesteryear.An infesting perspective. Your a 6 hour drive from me. I'd gladly do it one day to see these Bedlingtons of yours work. I love Bedlington blood in my lurchers, but I've never seen a Bedlington blooded terrier work. I grew up about 20 miles from Bedlington as well. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 How does the box and collar work fair out in rock, surly solid rock hampers signal?rock and earth don't effect the signal but metal can.I don,t like a collar on a terrier in rocks,many a terrier self entering with a collar on,mk.1,s and Bellmans ive encountered irregular readings.i would still always use a collar, i would rather have a irregular reading than not have one at all. just my views thoIve argued more about a terrier with and without a collar on than any other subject,apart from working Bedlingtons.Ill guarantee you will have entered terriers in certain rock piles that a collar would have been useless in,plus they certainly snag terriers at times and rescue others at other times.The olde lads worked well enough without them,im not as confident or educated enough to share their company,yet the olde lads worked rock terriers far better than any of us,without the aid of a collar and box.I once removed about 3 tonne of stone,on a mark, then worked to the sound of the terrier another 2 tonne to the left.Bet that made you cry!Many a rock holding spot around here is known by the time it took to rescue a terrier or the time it took a terrier to emerge from the stone,3 day hold,7 day hold,10 day hold and 10 day hold was not uncommon,especially around the Grippon before it was mucked over.It was commonplace to enter a mutt around here and spend more days than hours awaiting,honest terriers,honest days and a small inclination of what earlier terrierfolk took as standard.I wish i could own or breed the standard of terrier that was once the norm,i possibly have a better footing than the majority,id cull most of mine to own a second rate mutt of yesteryear.An infesting perspective. Your a 6 hour drive from me. I'd gladly do it one day to see these Bedlingtons of yours work. I love Bedlington blood in my lurchers, but I've never seen a Bedlington blooded terrier work. I grew up about 20 miles from Bedlington as well. Bedlington is less than 2 hours from me,don,t waste your petrol i don,t do education,id never put terrier blood into a lurcher. 1 Quote Link to post
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 How does the box and collar work fair out in rock, surly solid rock hampers signal? rock and earth don't effect the signal but metal can.I don,t like a collar on a terrier in rocks,many a terrier self entering with a collar on,mk.1,s and Bellmans ive encountered irregular readings.i would still always use a collar, i would rather have a irregular reading than not have one at all. just my views thoIve argued more about a terrier with and without a collar on than any other subject,apart from working Bedlingtons.Ill guarantee you will have entered terriers in certain rock piles that a collar would have been useless in,plus they certainly snag terriers at times and rescue others at other times.The olde lads worked well enough without them,im not as confident or educated enough to share their company,yet the olde lads worked rock terriers far better than any of us,without the aid of a collar and box.I once removed about 3 tonne of stone,on a mark, then worked to the sound of the terrier another 2 tonne to the left.Bet that made you cry!Many a rock holding spot around here is known by the time it took to rescue a terrier or the time it took a terrier to emerge from the stone,3 day hold,7 day hold,10 day hold and 10 day hold was not uncommon,especially around the Grippon before it was mucked over.It was commonplace to enter a mutt around here and spend more days than hours awaiting,honest terriers,honest days and a small inclination of what earlier terrierfolk took as standard.I wish i could own or breed the standard of terrier that was once the norm,i possibly have a better footing than the majority,id cull most of mine to own a second rate mutt of yesteryear.An infesting perspective.Your a 6 hour drive from me. I'd gladly do it one day to see these Bedlingtons of yours work. I love Bedlington blood in my lurchers, but I've never seen a Bedlington blooded terrier work. I grew up about 20 miles from Bedlington as well. Bedlington is less than 2 hours from me,don,t waste your petrol i don,t do education,id never put terrier blood into a lurcher.I drive a diesel van and now live in South Gloucestershire. I'm not after a lining for a lurcher. Can you recommend anyone to get a Bedlington terrier pup for earth work from? Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 How does the box and collar work fair out in rock, surly solid rock hampers signal?rock and earth don't effect the signal but metal can.I don,t like a collar on a terrier in rocks,many a terrier self entering with a collar on,mk.1,s and Bellmans ive encountered irregular readings.i would still always use a collar, i would rather have a irregular reading than not have one at all. just my views thoIve argued more about a terrier with and without a collar on than any other subject,apart from working Bedlingtons.Ill guarantee you will have entered terriers in certain rock piles that a collar would have been useless in,plus they certainly snag terriers at times and rescue others at other times.The olde lads worked well enough without them,im not as confident or educated enough to share their company,yet the olde lads worked rock terriers far better than any of us,without the aid of a collar and box.I once removed about 3 tonne of stone,on a mark, then worked to the sound of the terrier another 2 tonne to the left.Bet that made you cry!Many a rock holding spot around here is known by the time it took to rescue a terrier or the time it took a terrier to emerge from the stone,3 day hold,7 day hold,10 day hold and 10 day hold was not uncommon,especially around the Grippon before it was mucked over.It was commonplace to enter a mutt around here and spend more days than hours awaiting,honest terriers,honest days and a small inclination of what earlier terrierfolk took as standard.I wish i could own or breed the standard of terrier that was once the norm,i possibly have a better footing than the majority,id cull most of mine to own a second rate mutt of yesteryear.An infesting perspective.Your a 6 hour drive from me. I'd gladly do it one day to see these Bedlingtons of yours work. I love Bedlington blood in my lurchers, but I've never seen a Bedlington blooded terrier work. I grew up about 20 miles from Bedlington as well. Bedlington is less than 2 hours from me,don,t waste your petrol i don,t do education,id never put terrier blood into a lurcher.I drive a diesel van and now live in South Gloucestershire. I'm not after a lining for a lurcher. Can you recommend anyone to get a Bedlington terrier pup for earth work from? Im the Bedlingtons biggest fecking fan,another fact,id recommend you get a Fell because the vast majority of Beddy breeders are only interested in your dosh.The sad reality is i cannot point you in the direction you deserve,Rory on here,Topper perhaps,the rest id steer well,well clear of.My lad wants to put his hybrid over its niece,if he was better known in the terrier world an awful lot of people would be battering down his door to a terrier that as few equals,fact.There is a chance that dog will cover its niece this time,i own the niece,the missus thinks she owns it.If you want a genuine Bedlington id not encourage you,to many twats in the breed,patience grasshopper and be willing to turn the majority of litters down,the majority of litters are not befitting of the name. 2 Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Todd had a couple of goes each year Tank. I prefered to dig but when i went with them blokes they had a few specks in old quarrys etc. That Todd dog came out of two lines, Cyril Tysons and John Cowans. I'd like to think that blood from either line is still knocking about but i have no idea. That photo is from about 1985. Todd never lined anything. Why didn't you breed off him? Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Todd had a couple of goes each year Tank. I prefered to dig but when i went with them blokes they had a few specks in old quarrys etc. That Todd dog came out of two lines, Cyril Tysons and John Cowans. I'd like to think that blood from either line is still knocking about but i have no idea. That photo is from about 1985. Todd never lined anything. Why didn't you breed off him? To be honest, i dont really know Bryan. He was good enough, bred well enough but i was young and the local lads i went out with all thought he was a leggy, hyper, pain in the arse. I was gifted a crackin Park bred bitch, which he lined but i got her jabbed as i wanted to use a Park dog called Mick that had a justified name for itself. That lining did come about, in police kennels after Micks owner & Paul Blackledge got nicked on a dig, as i'd loaned her to him till she took! So, the answer to why i didn't line Todd is... ? But i know now i should of..!!! Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Good tales from you on here Bosun. Hindsight is the best sight unfortunately mate! 2 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Here's two oldies of him, one with a full coat and the other shaved down. He looked like a black n tan box headed whippet, one of the reasons anyone who had a decent bitch stayed clear... Quote Link to post
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