HPR 1,160 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 I don't think you can say there worth two earth dogs . Because to get a proper earth dog got to be worth 2 Rock dogs . There both totally different styles of work . I've had a really good earth dog 6 seasons never seen rock piles took him up to Manchester found in rock easy or looked easy was a good day out and a nice change but I prefer earth work . But could you of put the rock dogs that was up there in the earth a dig them more than likely not . So don't think it's right comparing the two really . Quote Link to post
foxbolter 447 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Many dogs fail to find in rocks because they sometimes have to drop down head first in between a crack in rocks sometimes dropping four or five feet in darkness . I can see where you are coming from hrp but I think it's harder to get a dog to do rock work than earth work . A fox in a good place in the rocks is a different animal than one in a earth expecially little vixens who can squeeze into some very awkward spots where a dog can only get its head. Also a dog can't dig it's way on in rocks so the size of the dog needs to be correct 2 Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 I've seen foxes on this and press ban have had lurchers chase them back to it but when I'm passing with my terrier it's on the lead I don't like all the rebar that's in https://www.dropbox.com/s/vusgon0bda8d1ug/20160729_121838.jpg?dl=0 Quote Link to post
tank34 2,341 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Got a cupple of spots like that with rebar in we take coller of dog as can get hung up, you get hear what's going on can be hard to dig big hammer is needed mate Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 I suppose it depends on the work that you have for your dog. If you do rock work and digging there's no reason your terrier can't excel at both if it's built for it. Quote Link to post
ziggy 619 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Looks a good place that leethedog I have a spot like that were I get my young stuff started in one I do isn't a bad place... I can pritty much get them out if I needed to...bit of bar an hammer work... Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) It's about 150 yards long and 30 across https://www.dropbox.com/s/60g1glydqj0z7vm/20160729_121931%20%281%29.jpg?dl=0 I can only have the Russell off coz he is scared of the dark Edited July 29, 2016 by leethedog 1 Quote Link to post
Mary 352 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 It's about 150 yards long and 30 across https://www.dropbox.com/s/60g1glydqj0z7vm/20160729_121931%20%281%29.jpg?dl=0 I can only have the Russell off coz he is scared of the dark looks a great place for a bolt, I'd find it hard not to let a terrier run that. 1 Quote Link to post
fireman 10,914 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 It's about 150 yards long and 30 across https://www.dropbox.com/s/60g1glydqj0z7vm/20160729_121931%20%281%29.jpg?dl=0 I can only have the Russell off coz he is scared of the dark looks a great place for a bolt, I'd find it hard not to let a terrier run that. I'd deffo let mine have a look ,be bloody rude not to to be honest .. 1 Quote Link to post
ziggy 619 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Puppy places for me them lee... That place will not be as bad as u think mate... When its season get a dog in 1 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Rock dogs might have their uses and get some sport but Ive seen piss poor earth dogs be great in rocks and also the same cannon fodder were brave as they come in bales and drains. Drains, bales and rocks are unnatural for the game and so the dogs feel braver. Get them under the sod and you'll see how brave they are. 1 Quote Link to post
Rat face 1,655 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 I don't think you can say there worth two earth dogs . Because to get a proper earth dog got to be worth 2 Rock dogs . There both totally different styles of work . I've had a really good earth dog 6 seasons never seen rock piles took him up to Manchester found in rock easy or looked easy was a good day out and a nice change but I prefer earth work . But could you of put the rock dogs that was up there in the earth a dig them more than likely not . So don't think it's right comparing the two really . I agree to a point they are two different types of dogs the motto of a digging dog is stay till dug .now in the rock that may never come so at some point they have to come out, now if a earth dog did that it would be a jacker, horse for course 2 Quote Link to post
ziggy 619 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Rabbit hunter I work mine under the sod as u put it...not a problem just as good in earths as in rocks .. 2 Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Rock dogs might have their uses and get some sport but Ive seen piss poor earth dogs be great in rocks and also the same cannon fodder were brave as they come in bales and drains. Drains, bales and rocks are unnatural for the game and so the dogs feel braver. Get them under the sod and you'll see how brave they are.I wouldn't say rocks are an unnatural place for a fox to take cover, if anything it's the preferred place for a fox to take cover. But I understand what you mean, some dogs who won't push on will happily run through rocks because there's plenty of room for the dog. Quote Link to post
Mary 352 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 If the fox does not bolt and the dog comes out after an hour/day/week, how can you be certain he has succeeded in dispatching his foe, whereas an earth dog, you know the score when you dig to him? I've never done rocks so don't know, but with earth work you get to see and contribute to the end result. Quote Link to post
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