Hunting Gun????

[Raider 0]

Been toying with the idea of getting an air rifle for general pest control for a while now and with crimbo coming I have decided to go for it . First of all in Ireland you need a licence for every air gun unlike England? Secondly what cal? from browsing on here I was thinking .22, are they suitable for everything-rats, rabbits, crows etc.. I like the look of the pre charged guns but not too sure whats involved with them :hmm:I have a budget of roughly £300-£400 and would prefere new to second hand . So girls and guys stick up a few makes and models with prices and I will E-mail my dealer for a quote.

Cheers

[Mason67 0]

Been toying with the idea of getting an air rifle for general pest control for a while now and with crimbo coming I have decided to go for it . First of all in Ireland you need a licence for every air gun unlike England? Secondly what cal? from browsing on here I was thinking .22, are they suitable for everything-rats, rabbits, crows etc.. I like the look of the pre charged guns but not too sure whats involved with them :hmm:I have a budget of roughly £300-£400 and would prefere new to second hand . So girls and guys stick up a few makes and models with prices and I will E-mail my dealer for a quote.

Cheers

 

I've got two springers an HW97K and a BSA Lightning XL both are great guns and can purchased new with a scope and case for under £400. the only thing with the HW97K is the weight.

[Raider 0]

thanks

[Raider 0]

What are the pros and cons of "springers" and precharged???

[davyt63 1,845]

Been toying with the idea of getting an air rifle for general pest control for a while now and with crimbo coming I have decided to go for it . First of all in Ireland you need a licence for every air gun unlike England? Secondly what cal? from browsing on here I was thinking .22, are they suitable for everything-rats, rabbits, crows etc.. I like the look of the pre charged guns but not too sure whats involved with them :hmm:I have a budget of roughly £300-£400 and would prefere new to second hand . So girls and guys stick up a few makes and models with prices and I will E-mail my dealer for a quote.

Cheers

air arms s410 i just bought one after doing some home work.great gun but bit pricey

[Raider 0]

Been toying with the idea of getting an air rifle for general pest control for a while now and with crimbo coming I have decided to go for it . First of all in Ireland you need a licence for every air gun unlike England? Secondly what cal? from browsing on here I was thinking .22, are they suitable for everything-rats, rabbits, crows etc.. I like the look of the pre charged guns but not too sure whats involved with them :hmm:I have a budget of roughly £300-£400 and would prefere new to second hand . So girls and guys stick up a few makes and models with prices and I will E-mail my dealer for a quote.

Cheers

air arms s410 i just bought one after doing some home work.great gun but bit pricey

Just searched it, nice gun but not much change from £500 one day perhaps but not now

[maty j 6]

What are the pros and cons of "springers" and precharged???

 

precharge (pcp) have a limited number of fills before you have to either pump it up with a pump (120 quid new) or use a dive bottle (evn more cash) the bottle has to be tested every few years and filled up at a local dive shop or airgun shop. pcp's dont have any recoil so tend to be more accurate in less experianced hands. the number of shots you'll get per charge will depend on the rifle, size of the resevoir and the calabre of it. generally .177 get less shots per charge than .22. there generally quiter when fitted ith a decent silencer.

 

were as a springer will keep going as you just cock the spring and shoot, eventually after a few thousand shots the spring will go but they can be picked up for about 20 quid. obviosly more movement is needed to do this and a bit of strength. there usually more noisy - with spring twang and recoil so if rested on a soilid surface will jump all over the place. however there usually cheaper.

 

hth,

[Raider 0]

Im thinking PCP is the future? Although all that dive bottle and pump lark

What about the AA S200 mk2? How much would I pay for an Air Arms S200 pre charged with a magazine kit, moderator and scope

Is the pump manual or what?

[Malt 379]

Would totally recommend the s200. I've got my brothers here at my place on semi-permanent loan! (he can't be arsed to take it home, and I like using it!)

My Dad has got the s410c which I can use at any time but if i'm honest, apart from the 10 shot mag, I prefer to take the s200.

[Mason67 0]

There will always be the debate between springer or pcp. Personally I prefer a springer as has been quoted you just cock the spring and shoot, and you haven't got the added expense of a pump or dive bottle.

You could always go for a rifle fitted with a gas ram, for example the Theoben Evolution. Sorry to throw more confusion on you

[bill88 6]

With that much money you could get a really top notch precharge second hand,or buy a new AA s200,great gun Lots of arguments for springers and precharge,me i prefer precharge,silent,accurate,ease of use etc etc.You can pick up a second hand bottle (inc test) for less than a £100,it will fill your gun anything from 12-13 times+,depending on size,and will only cost £2-£3 to refill.Don't buy a pump.

[Raider 0]

With that much money you could get a really top notch precharge second hand,or buy a new AA s200,great gun Lots of arguments for springers and precharge,me i prefer precharge,silent,accurate,ease of use etc etc.You can pick up a second hand bottle (inc test) for less than a £100,it will fill your gun anything from 12-13 times+,depending on size,and will only cost £2-£3 to refill.Don't buy a pump.

Decided to go for a PCP and do some research but the s200 is in pole position at the moment. Just found out my uncles mate is a professional diver so going to see if he can sort out a tank for me or will a dealer be able to sort that?What sort of tank should I go for?Does it depend on the gun Air rifles are a whole different world to what im used to

Thanks everyone

[Tyla 3,179]

Keep your eyes open in the sell or swap section on here. You could get full rig incl charging gear scope etc for that money. Second hand is always a better deal unless you are buying at the bottom end of the market. i would go for pre charge rather than springer as they are easier to shoot and you wont need to upgrade in a year which alot of people do if they get really into it.

 

Good luck and good hunting!!

[Deker 3,478]

Don't all start shouting at me this is my opinion only!

 

PCP is the way forward, they will always be more accurate as there is absolutely no thump when you pull the trigger. They are already generally used by Gamekeepers and Vermin control. Shots per charge is improving all the time as valving and regulaters improve. You do need a bottle or pump though and of course they tend to be a lot more expensive than springers. Also a lot easier to FAC, but then again the shots per charge go down.

 

Springers are a long, long, long way from being dead and burried. There are plenty of excellent ones out there and whilst they are likely to give you arms like Popeye if you use them a lot you are not going to run out of air half way through a shoot. FAC springers thump like an express train and will give you even bigger arm muscles.

 

Gas ram just doesn't seem to have taken off.

 

There is loads and loads more that can be said about both, surfice to say my 12ft lb is a springer and I used to be able to hit knock downs out to 30+ yards with it routinely freestanding. My 26ft lb is PCP and I can empty an 8 shot magazine into a 1p at 40 yards. Unfortunately going back to the springer the Barn Door phrase comes to me!

 

You mention rats, rabbits and crow....22 definately is the best overal choice for all of these, not .177,.20 or .25. Individually, at 12ft lb I would say rat .25, rabbit .22 and crow .177, but again many will have their own view on that.

 

If I assume the £300-£400 budget is for everything.....gun, scope, mounts, moderator, bipods, gunslip, bottles etc then you have no chance getting all that for a New PCP.

Looks like a New Springer or used PCP.

 

I know which I would choose!

 

Happy shooting.

 

Deker

[andy s410c 60]

I would go for a 2nd hand PCP if your lucky you might just get the full set up for £400-500 but it depends what YOU want.Nothing wrong with a springer but if you get into it you,ll probalies want a PCP in the end??The calibre debate is not something i want to get into its just to TENSE .Handle & try as many guns as you can if possible you,ll know when it feels right for YOU