Weed ;)

[lukey 1,621]

 

Why legalise it for recreational porpoises? Dose it make some people better? Wouldn't it be making it more appealing to young kids? Is there anyone on here that's never smoked it that agrees with allowing kids to start smoking it?

I don't smoke it. If you legalised it across the board, tomorrow, I still wouldn't rush out and take it up. Those that would are going to do it anyway, so instead of costing the taxpayer money through healthcare and enforcement, etc, why not take a chunk of tax revenue to drop back into the benefit of the communities?

A lot of folk on this thread n I'm not saying all are talking out of there arses just to try justify the fact that they are stoners!

Tried it in my teens. Didn't like it. Still support full legalization.

Bullshit pal. Banning drink or cigarettes would be fine by me! Do you think young kids should be advised to smoke weed? If we legalised anything bad for people would it make things better?

If you banned it would you stop people drinking and smoking? Look at drug/alcohol use in the species... It goes back to the beginning, regardless of legality! I'm not going to argue the issues/problems with drinking and smoking. Any retard with an internet connection can look at the empirical data on the subject and see that it's f****d. The issue, for me at least, is that it's never going away. We can either keep our heads buried in the sand and dream up inventive ways to screw the taxpayer for more money for enforcement, and offsetting the NHS for the treatment. Or we can look at the strengths and weaknesses in the current system and work for a better solution that benefits everyone.

So will all you stoners be giving up your homegrown weed to smoke the taxed, profit making gear the govt will be supplying. Because if you think they'll legalise it and not make millions on it then the weed has really f****d your head

Homebrew beer has never been a threat to Interbrew.

the Americans didn't do it properly but Id imagine the british government will do it right and collect the profits,

 

will I give up my home grown? depends how good their pot is and what they spending the profits on if the continue to invest in war then probably not but hey if they that pissed off they can come lock me in one of their prisons lol wonder how long it take me too score a bit in there, or maybe I could choose to go on the smack instead plenty fo that in their, if they cant keep it out of their own prisons who can they keep it out the country lol

I disagree there. I posted some statistics, earlier in the thread, from Colorado. The legit money going directly to schools and deprived communities is staggering. They made special time to ensure that the money would directly benefit communities instead of being stashed away by the greedy. WILF is correct about the British government pissing away the tax windfall but now we're highlighting the real problem. Done correctly it could make a massive difference, but when has 'done correctly' ever been a staple for British politics?

Who then thinks there should be a full legalisation of all drugs then?........I mean it's a bit hard to argue for one and against the other as has been pointed out in the alcohol scenario.

 

The master plan would require a lot more than just 'Have At It, Lads' like areas of tolerance away from communities, mandatory counseling and rehabilitation, hard drugs on prescription, legal consequences for breaking all of those, provisions in the law for easier grading of future drugs deemed harmful... Portugal has been used as an example and it's clearly making a difference.

 

The War on Drugs isn't being won by the right people. We need a change in tactics. Harsher and stiffer punishments keep being used and yet the problem is still here and still isn't dealt with. I think sensible discourse from all sectors of society could see major progress, but if people aren't willing to talk then we're stuck with what we've got and we can all agree that it's a major problem. Wouldn't you agree?

 

Not for me I'm afraid, I think they should all be gassed

 

I don't want to look down on junkies, I just don't see any reason for them to exist.

Harsh. Do you think addiction should be treated, or should we go straight to the execution?

So it's just all about the money? Or do you think it's a good thing if youngsters start smoking it?

[ChrisJones 7,975]

So it's just all about the money? Or do you think it's a good thing if youngsters start smoking it?

To answer the first question it's about allocation of resources. Currently the taxpayer is 100% contributor and the problem is growing, wouldn't you agree? I propose a huge cash boost for everything across the board which can achieved with sensible regulation and taxation. Do you agree that criminalising drugs hasn't solved the problem?

 

To answer the second question I don't think it's a good thing if youngsters start smoking it. But I do think that using the tax windfall, from it's legalisation, to educate, rehabilitate, and treat, those that want to stop using drugs, is preferable to the current system of stigmatising it. I've never once promoted the use of drugs, and I never would. I've not seen anyone on here promoting the use of drugs at all never mind directing it towards youngsters. Do you agree that youngsters consume decent quantities of drugs already?

Edited April 24, 2017 by ChrisJones

[lukey 1,621]

Yous do all know that so many more young folk will start this nasty "habit" if it's made legal sold in cafes shops ect don't yous? Not good imo, fuk the revenue man all it will do is chew up the money that they don't have

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Yous do all know that so many more young folk will start this nasty "habit" if it's made legal sold in cafes shops ect don't yous? Not good imo, fuk the revenue man all it will do is chew up the money that they don't have

 

It already is chewing up the money we don't have.

[lukey 1,621]

 

So it's just all about the money? Or do you think it's a good thing if youngsters start smoking it?

To answer the first question it's about allocation of resources. Currently the taxpayer is 100% contributor and the problem is growing, wouldn't you agree? I propose a huge cash boost for everything across the board which can achieved with sensible regulation and taxation. Do you agree that criminalising drugs hasn't solved the problem?

 

To answer the second question I don't think it's a good thing if youngsters start smoking it. But I do think that using the tax windfall, from it's legalisation, to educate, rehabilitate, and treat, those that want to stop using drugs, is preferable to the current system of stigmatising it. I've never once promoted the use of drugs, and I never would. I've not seen anyone on here promoting the use of drugs at all never mind directing it towards youngsters. Do you agree that youngsters consume decent quantities of drugs already?

Dam right they do and they are all little wasters with no ambition and no future, fuk all this talk of resources and tax windfall just leave the kids knowing they are doing wrong smoking it because so many out there will stay away from it for that reason

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Dam right they do and they are all little wasters with no ambition and no future, fuk all this talk of resources and tax windfall just leave the kids knowing they are doing wrong smoking it because so many out there will stay away from it for that reason

So we should just leave it the way it is? f**k em? Throw them on the scrap heap?

[lukey 1,621]

 

 

Yous do all know that so many more young folk will start this nasty "habit" if it's made legal sold in cafes shops ect don't yous? Not good imo, fuk the revenue man all it will do is chew up the money that they don't have

It already is chewing up the money we don't have.

A good kid with hopes and dreams won't smoke it because they don't want to break the law for a start, here where I am it's all the wee neds as we call them that do it, in fact where I live these days all the young cool fit kids look down on the neds that drink and smoke weed, changed days, it's not cool

[Accip74 7,112]

Chris you are talking sense as usual

[tilimangro 1,013]

 

 

 

Yous do all know that so many more young folk will start this nasty "habit" if it's made legal sold in cafes shops ect don't yous? Not good imo, fuk the revenue man all it will do is chew up the money that they don't have

It already is chewing up the money we don't have.

A good kid with hopes and dreams won't smoke it because they don't want to break the law for a start, here where I am it's all the wee neds as we call them that do it, in fact where I live these days all the young cool fit kids look down on the neds that drink and smoke weed, changed days, it's not cool

Why do keep on about young kids

If regulated it won't be sold to young kids

And since young kids can already get hold of it regulating it can only improve things

[lukey 1,621]

Chris you are talking sense as usual

He is, I just want to see good kids doing well and stay away from it, maybe ones trying it to be cool realises it isn't cool n stop, all the wee idiots that get hooked and do fuk all other than be idiots and cause trouble, fuk them, they will just use it to start with before they start using everything else they can get eventually ending up on smack

[Accip74 7,112]

I don't think anyone wants a newsagent style system where you can just pop in buy some dope with your red-bull. It has to be well regulated, age limits, prescriptions etc etc....

[lukey 1,621]

 

 

 

 

Yous do all know that so many more young folk will start this nasty "habit" if it's made legal sold in cafes shops ect don't yous? Not good imo, fuk the revenue man all it will do is chew up the money that they don't have

It already is chewing up the money we don't have.

A good kid with hopes and dreams won't smoke it because they don't want to break the law for a start, here where I am it's all the wee neds as we call them that do it, in fact where I live these days all the young cool fit kids look down on the neds that drink and smoke weed, changed days, it's not cool

Why do keep on about young kids

If regulated it won't be sold to young kids

And since young kids can already get hold of it regulating it can only improve things

What would the age be? I go on about young kids because I've got young kids and don't want weed being made out to be a accepted thing

[kanny 20,649]

 

 

 

 

Yous do all know that so many more young folk will start this nasty "habit" if it's made legal sold in cafes shops ect don't yous? Not good imo, fuk the revenue man all it will do is chew up the money that they don't have

It already is chewing up the money we don't have.

A good kid with hopes and dreams won't smoke it because they don't want to break the law for a start, here where I am it's all the wee neds as we call them that do it, in fact where I live these days all the young cool fit kids look down on the neds that drink and smoke weed, changed days, it's not cool

Why do keep on about young kids

If regulated it won't be sold to young kids

And since young kids can already get hold of it regulating it can only improve things

That's a good point once it's legalized it will no longer be of interest to organized crime outfits who don't care who its sold to .

[ChrisJones 7,975]

A good kid with hopes and dreams won't smoke it because they don't want to break the law for a start, here where I am it's all the wee neds as we call them that do it, in fact where I live these days all the young cool fit kids look down on the neds that drink and smoke weed, changed days, it's not cool

A good kid, with hopes and dreams, who's educated on the subject is far more likely to make informed decisions. The not so smart kids, that get sucked into the endless cycle of crash, and rebound, will have access to treatment and rehabilitation, and may take advantage of the education not to do it again. No?

 

If regulated it won't be sold to young kids

And since young kids can already get hold of it regulating it can only improve things

I'm out of likes, for today, Tili so have a

Edited April 24, 2017 by ChrisJones

[scothunter 12,609]

Lukey weed was toked for many years and still is in some of the best schools and universities in the land.

I respect you're stance mate but there far worse things you're kids can dabble in.

As i stated earlier id be more dissapointed and concerned catching my kid with a bottle of buckie in his hand than a joint.

 

I Know youre a dad to young boys must be a worry mate, but you're a good lad im sure you will do the right thing by them:)