WILF 46,834 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 I don't know mate and what's more I don't give a flying bollocks, I don't want mine or anyone elses kids exposed to it on a wholesale basis. We are breeding a load of no hopers and I see no reason to assist the process. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) I have successful friend that smoke weed or have done but have now given up but I have employed enough lads to know it is turning a whole generation into complete f***ing mongs......they just have no gumption and nothing about them and frankly just saying "on you go then boys" because it's a hard costly battle just isn't good enough boys. What's the next thing that becomes OK? Their was a time we wouldn't tolerate blokes cutting about buggering each other......now you can bigger a 16 year old lad and we are all dancing about waving rainbow flags !! We are exposing our young generations to ever increasing amounts of filth and things of a low Caliber.......what's wrong with saying "no, it's not OK to be a f***ing Mong......aspire to have a bit about you as a person" Giving up and calling it a victory is becoming a bad f***ing habit in this world. Jesus the battle for our youth is hard enough in this world......I don't see any logical reason to make it harder and certainly not for the sake of a few quid that politicians will piss away anyway. I know what you mean by a lot young men. I had to deal with many as a supervisor before I left the UK, a common theme was being stone heads, but not all........I called them the 'Energy Drink Generation'. This was manual graft & nothing could be attempted without a couple cans of fcuking Monster! Eventually I came to the occlusion that it weren't so much the dope, but a general attitude towards graft that was lacking! Two brothers I grew up with own a buliding firm & I've said this before on here, They CANNOT find anyone young to work, in 10 fcuking years! No joke......nobody can do the work, not just stone heads......just youth that is lacking! I was a stone head youth & grafted like f**k, I had to.....I had a great rep as a grafter..........it's more than just weed in my opinion, but of course it doesn't help. I'm a hypocrite when it comes to this subject. I'd hate to see my boy go down that road, I'd never want to normalise weed for him, I'd never dream of letting him see me smoke, which isn't an issue, as it's few & far between for me now......like I wouldn't if I still smoke cigarettes, but I think nothing of drinking a bottle of red wine in front of him........I have normalised alcohol, which in my opinion causes the greater misery. I'm a total fcuking hypocrite.......but that's the way most of us are programmed. If I was to draw the line, surely it would be with something as damaging as alcohol? There is no way round this anymore, weed is here to stay, along with getting hammered on booze, we can only try & steer our kids in the right direction & tbh, if later in life I found my kids had tried weed, I would only hope they didn't have to mix with undesirables like I did & perhaps get it in a safe way, like I'd hope they drank in a responsible way..... Edited March 27, 2017 by Accip74 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saluki bouy 698 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Have to agree with wilf I live in small village and all the young ones are lazy as shi** stoned every day that's all they do. I'm opened minded and yeah when we were younger we had black pollen soap bar but you were still up the park playing football away up the hills with the dogs we could function these lot can't, this homegrown is a different level! They have no ambition no get up and go and this is the next generation. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 I don't know mate and what's more I don't give a flying bollocks, I don't want mine or anyone elses kids exposed to it on a wholesale basis. We are breeding a load of no hopers and I see no reason to assist the process. But you're happy for them to be exposed to alcohol (arguably more damaging than weed by every metric) on a wholesale basis with ads on TV and at sporting events? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Giving up and calling it a victory is becoming a bad f***ing habit in this world. Jesus the battle for our youth is hard enough......I don't see any logical reason to make it harder and certainly not for the sake of a few quid that politicians will piss away anyway. Okay fair comments but we've shown examples where it appears to have worked. At least at the moment. Lower crime, more money for schools and social services. What's your solution for the war on drugs? I think we can all agree that the status quo isn't working. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martyn2233 2,581 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Have to agree with wilf I live in small village and all the young ones are lazy as shi** stoned every day that's all they do. I'm opened minded and yeah when we were younger we had black pollen soap bar but you were still up the park playing football away up the hills with the dogs we could function these lot can't, this homegrown is a different level! They have no ambition no get up and go and this is the next generation. it's all the last generation there all brain dead no weed involved Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 How would it fit into the workplace when most places I know of have strict drink & drug policies? It's alright sitting on the sofa all day smoking a split or ten and eating chocolate listening to John Lennon, in the real world it won't fly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,834 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Giving up and calling it a victory is becoming a bad f***ing habit in this world. Jesus the battle for our youth is hard enough......I don't see any logical reason to make it harder and certainly not for the sake of a few quid that politicians will piss away anyway. Okay fair comments but we've shown examples where it appears to have worked. At least at the moment. Lower crime, more money for schools and social services. What's your solution for the war on drugs? I think we can all agree that the status quo isn't working. I don't have one my friend and that's the truth but I know this much, waving the white flag won't make it any better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,834 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 I don't know mate and what's more I don't give a flying bollocks, I don't want mine or anyone elses kids exposed to it on a wholesale basis. We are breeding a load of no hopers and I see no reason to assist the process. But you're happy for them to be exposed to alcohol (arguably more damaging than weed by every metric) on a wholesale basis with ads on TV and at sporting events? Let's stop kidding each other pal, you know and I know that the older and current generation of weed smokers are not ranting about this being a good idea because they genuinely beleive it will be of benefit to society.......they are doing it so they don't have to worry about their door being put through at 5 in the morning by the old bill because their loft is lighting up like the sun on the choppers thermal imager 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,834 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 And while we are talking about it, saying it reduces crime is utter government bollocks.........if there is one thing I do know it's this, a criminal is exactly what it says on the tin.......you could give them a 100 million quid and they will still have to find a way to f**k about even if it mean blimping the tax man for a fiver........you grow up that way, its in your nature to do it. They would just all go off and do some other type of criminal activity, from your scumbag mugging a granny to the bloke sitting in a stately home. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 I don't know mate and what's more I don't give a flying bollocks, I don't want mine or anyone elses kids exposed to it on a wholesale basis. We are breeding a load of no hopers and I see no reason to assist the process. But you're happy for them to be exposed to alcohol (arguably more damaging than weed by every metric) on a wholesale basis with ads on TV and at sporting events?Let's stop kidding each other pal, you know and I know that the older and current generation of weed smokers are not ranting about this being a good idea because they genuinely beleive it will be of benefit to society.......they are doing it so they don't have to worry about their door being put through at 5 in the morning by the old bill because their loft is lighting up like the sun on the choppers thermal imager I think it should be legalised because the state has no business telling folk what they can put in their own body, simple as that really. The benefits of huge tax revenue and young lads not having their life opportunities limited because they got caught puffing a bit of weed are just bonuses. Calling for weed to be illegal while ignoring the harm to society caused by alcohol is just a touch hypocritical IMO, if we're going to keep the relatively harmless weed illegal to protect the public why aren't we also banning the deadly alcohol which is harmful to not only the user but society as a whole? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 I don't know mate and what's more I don't give a flying bollocks, I don't want mine or anyone elses kids exposed to it on a wholesale basis. We are breeding a load of no hopers and I see no reason to assist the process. But you're happy for them to be exposed to alcohol (arguably more damaging than weed by every metric) on a wholesale basis with ads on TV and at sporting events?Let's stop kidding each other pal, you know and I know that the older and current generation of weed smokers are not ranting about this being a good idea because they genuinely beleive it will be of benefit to society.......they are doing it so they don't have to worry about their door being put through at 5 in the morning by the old bill because their loft is lighting up like the sun on the choppers thermal imager I think it should be legalised because the state has no business telling folk what they can put in their own body, simple as that really. The benefits of huge tax revenue and young lads not having their life opportunities limited because they got caught puffing a bit of weed are just bonuses. Calling for weed to be illegal while ignoring the harm to society caused by alcohol is just a touch hypocritical IMO, if we're going to keep the relatively harmless weed illegal to protect the public why aren't we also banning the deadly alcohol which is harmful to not only the user but society as a whole? What about Crack and Heroin? If you believe we have no right telling people what and what not they can put inside their body then surely you're all for the legalisation of these drugs? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 I don't know mate and what's more I don't give a flying bollocks, I don't want mine or anyone elses kids exposed to it on a wholesale basis. We are breeding a load of no hopers and I see no reason to assist the process. But you're happy for them to be exposed to alcohol (arguably more damaging than weed by every metric) on a wholesale basis with ads on TV and at sporting events?Let's stop kidding each other pal, you know and I know that the older and current generation of weed smokers are not ranting about this being a good idea because they genuinely beleive it will be of benefit to society.......they are doing it so they don't have to worry about their door being put through at 5 in the morning by the old bill because their loft is lighting up like the sun on the choppers thermal imager I think it should be legalised because the state has no business telling folk what they can put in their own body, simple as that really. The benefits of huge tax revenue and young lads not having their life opportunities limited because they got caught puffing a bit of weed are just bonuses. Calling for weed to be illegal while ignoring the harm to society caused by alcohol is just a touch hypocritical IMO, if we're going to keep the relatively harmless weed illegal to protect the public why aren't we also banning the deadly alcohol which is harmful to not only the user but society as a whole? What about Crack and Heroin? If you believe we have no right telling people what and what not they can put inside their body then surely you're all for the legalisation of these drugs? Compromises have to be made for the benefit of society, show me weed causes as much problems for society as crack and heroin and I'd be all for it being illegal. I would however support something like the Swiss model of prescribing heroin to addicts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 I don't know mate and what's more I don't give a flying bollocks, I don't want mine or anyone elses kids exposed to it on a wholesale basis. We are breeding a load of no hopers and I see no reason to assist the process. But you're happy for them to be exposed to alcohol (arguably more damaging than weed by every metric) on a wholesale basis with ads on TV and at sporting events?Let's stop kidding each other pal, you know and I know that the older and current generation of weed smokers are not ranting about this being a good idea because they genuinely beleive it will be of benefit to society.......they are doing it so they don't have to worry about their door being put through at 5 in the morning by the old bill because their loft is lighting up like the sun on the choppers thermal imager I think it should be legalised because the state has no business telling folk what they can put in their own body, simple as that really. The benefits of huge tax revenue and young lads not having their life opportunities limited because they got caught puffing a bit of weed are just bonuses. Calling for weed to be illegal while ignoring the harm to society caused by alcohol is just a touch hypocritical IMO, if we're going to keep the relatively harmless weed illegal to protect the public why aren't we also banning the deadly alcohol which is harmful to not only the user but society as a whole? What about Crack and Heroin? If you believe we have no right telling people what and what not they can put inside their body then surely you're all for the legalisation of these drugs?Compromises have to be made for the benefit of society, show me weed causes as much problems for society as crack and heroin and I'd be all for it being illegal. I would however support something like the Swiss model of prescribing heroin to addicts. It has a big impact on society. https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/how-does-marijuana-use-affect-school-work-social-life Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 All of the negative effects in that article are personal effects on the user, certainly nothing comparable to crack and heroin or even alcohol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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