Weed ;)

[Accip74 7,112]

If I ever get it now, I travel over an hour & get it legally....

[arcticgun 4,548]

 

 

A bit like drink, it brings no tangible benefits to society......at a countrywide level the only effects are mostly negative so why legalise.

We have alcohol, we are stuck with it so why add to the problem.

we moan about all these things but its only the usual minority that actually spoil it, how many people enjoy a pint or two on a sunny day when they off or on holiday, or simply to unwind on a night, bit of stress relief take edge off hard day, get a bit of sleep that would elude them otherwise? pot smokers are mainly the same

 

for them that are harking on back too total ban and ruthless penalties, seriously where has this got you so far, the war on drugs is simply a war on people, every year you spend countless billions lock up thousands of people, give criminal records too thousands more, and where has it got you? nowhere whatsoever, well beaten by a few hippies, who just keep repeating the simple truths,

As far as I can see, in a social level the only benefit to wider society from all these things is revenue..........and personally I don't think revenue (which will just be ruthlessly f****d away any way) is a good enough excuse to create a few more mongs.

 

if it puts a smile on a few faces and eases a few aches and pains that's something in a shitty world, lessens the need to visit the doctor every five minutes and endless subsidised prescriptions that just attempt to emulate the weed affects costing millions , then its worth it, its happening just as much now anyhow and the world aint ground too a stop just yet,

[arcticgun 4,548]

I think it will make a really interesting new growth industry when it comes legal here, its already got an established culture and huge customer base, I can only see positives coming from it to be honest,

[lurcherman 887 13,259]

 

 

Artic what papers do you use ? Get some organic raw papers. And get the hemp perfarated tips. Lets you make letters in roach ect for a smooth smoke

Ive always used green rizla and zig zags, pal, got loads of samples over in the dam at a convetion but never use any of em lol

 

Ohhh god greens lol. Get some organic raws mate you wont look back there on ebay or in most shops now them greens are terrible to smoke with !!!

[WILF 47,495]

Who then thinks there should be a full legalisation of all drugs then?........I mean it's a bit hard to argue for one and against the other as has been pointed out in the alcohol scenario.

[arcticgun 4,548]

 

 

Artic what papers do you use ? Get some organic raw papers. And get the hemp perfarated tips. Lets you make letters in roach ect for a smooth smoke

Ive always used green rizla and zig zags, pal, got loads of samples over in the dam at a convetion but never use any of em lol

 

Ohhh god greens lol. Get some organic raws mate you wont look back there on ebay or in most shops now them greens are terrible to smoke with !!!

 

yea a lot I know use them but am old skool and rizla does me, bought allsort over the years slinkies bongs pipes, vaporisers costing a few quid, but nothing hits the spot like a proper three skin joint , not even that keen on all these new products like shatter, wax, dabs, just a nice bag of smelly green does me, or a quality hashish, don't go bundle on edibles either,

 

hopefully the next generation will move away from smokables and enjoy it without that additional worry

[tilimangro 1,013]

Who then thinks there should be a full legalisation of all drugs then?........I mean it's a bit hard to argue for one and against the other as has been pointed out in the alcohol scenario.

yes I do

It's been done in several countries and proved successful

Portugal is a leading example

Their aids levels dropped dramatically after they legalised everything

That doesn't mean anyone is free to take drugs whenever they want but rather they don't treat addicts as criminals put them in prison for them to come out take drugs reoffend as nauseum

Our current way clearly doesn't work

[WILF 47,495]

 

Who then thinks there should be a full legalisation of all drugs then?........I mean it's a bit hard to argue for one and against the other as has been pointed out in the alcohol scenario.

yes I do

It's been done in several countries and proved successful

Portugal is a leading example

Their aids levels dropped dramatically after they legalised everything

That doesn't mean anyone is free to take drugs whenever they want but rather they don't treat addicts as criminals put them in prison for them to come out take drugs reoffend as nauseum

Our current way clearly doesn't work

I wasn't aware drugs were fully legal there mate, so just so I am clear, people of a certain age are free to buy and use heroin, cocain, meth, crack and of course cannabis ?

[mackem 27,393]

 

 

Who then thinks there should be a full legalisation of all drugs then?........I mean it's a bit hard to argue for one and against the other as has been pointed out in the alcohol scenario.

yes I do

It's been done in several countries and proved successful

Portugal is a leading example

Their aids levels dropped dramatically after they legalised everything

That doesn't mean anyone is free to take drugs whenever they want but rather they don't treat addicts as criminals put them in prison for them to come out take drugs reoffend as nauseum

Our current way clearly doesn't work

I wasn't aware drugs were fully legal there mate, so just so I am clear, people of a certain age are free to buy and use heroin, cocain, meth, crack and of course cannabis ?

 

Its decriminalised WILF just means if your caught with anything for personal your not going to be prosecuted.

[arcticgun 4,548]

Who then thinks there should be a full legalisation of all drugs then?........I mean it's a bit hard to argue for one and against the other as has been pointed out in the alcohol scenario.

I'd g with that solely based on the evidence that the war on drugs has failed so bloody miserably, its more or less conceded that it actually causes more misery and cost than the drugs themselves do

 

theres been trails held all over country to reduce impact of heroin on communities giving out free heroin and its been successful at reducing use and crime and improving health and understanding

 

fact is we stuck with this problem and like it or not theres more doing it than we like to think we look at the failures and the ones that are deranged and get caught, they quick to blame everything on the drugs or anything else they can, what happened to personal accountability? theres always an excuse, the fact is tht most the costs associated with drugs are caused by a small minority of users, the mainstay of users just do it enjoy it keep it quiet that's why its the largest cash business on the planet after arms, they don't pop up on the facts and figures, most the idiots we see daily paraded in the press a junkie scum the government pays for their drugs anyhow via giros welfare etc, but that wouldn't add up to the amount drugs make maybe a small percentage

 

if it was all legal tomorrow I seriously doubt anymore would do it than already do, its not exactly hard to get hold of now, a idiots and idiot weather its drink drugs or fresh air they prone to messing up

 

what I do know is the way we do it now does not work and never will history has shown us that , I do understand peoples fears they been lied too for a long time especially about cannabis, if it where that harmful as you all saying why it becoming leagal all over, when was the last time our leaders gave us anything cos we asked for it, poyt coming legal is because they are running out of excuses and lies, every lie they tell they loose another listener, if they lied about pot what else will they lie about

[scothunter 12,609]

Its not that hard to argue wilf. Some drugs like heroin, coke, pills and even Alcohol andtobacco cause death and misery. Weed on the other hand aint killed anyone and does not make you want to commit gratuitous violence.

 

No i wouldnt want to see hard drugs legal. In fact id be happy to see alchol banned aswell lol

[arcticgun 4,548]

addicts usually have underlying issues, get them clean and dont resolve them issues then you might as well save your money in the first instance, tackle route causes then see how many want to spend the day bombed out, but no its easier too simply blame the drugs innit, plus everyone gets someone too look down upon and that's always a good seller is it not?

[WILF 47,495]

I would argue that you cant drop one boundary and not expect someone to come up with a good case to drop the one after that.

It's what happens........

 

There are plenty of high functioning junkies could make the case for it..........

 

Not for me I'm afraid, I think they should all be gassed

 

I don't want to look down on junkies, I just don't see any reason for them to exist.

Edited April 24, 2017 by WILF

[scothunter 12,609]

Ban coffee aswell while were on this moral crusade. Its a stimulate taken for pleasure and a boost. Also pretty aaddictive. Nah imo weed gets a very bad rap from people who need to maybe look at there own "harmless acceptable" vices.

 

no offense meant to anyone btw

[tilimangro 1,013]

I would argue that you cant drop one boundary and not expect someone to come up with a good case to drop the one after that.

It's what happens........

 

There are plenty of high functioning junkies could make the case for it..........

 

Not for me I'm afraid, I think they should all be gassed

 

I don't want to look down on junkies, I just don't see any reason for them to exist.

Child abuse

Shit parents

Alcoholic parents

There's a few reason junkies exist

There's lots more