Another Soldier Dies On The Beacons

[Plucky1 1,119]

It was 24 degrees up here at 3am in morn other night

Prob was sitting around 26 plus at 9am down Brecons?

It was the hottest day of the year

And those temps came from nowhere

Maybe his body did not have time to acclimatise ?

 

A couple years ago a couple SAS potentials died same area

Again on the hottest day of the year

Similar temps.

 

So there must be something in it

 

They don't seem to keel over on average temp days.

Max, it is a tragedy but also a sad fact that these lads fail, we want the best in the front line and its easy to judge sat here in our relatively safe beds, we are kept safe by men doing stuff that you would not believe, from halo jumps to being fired out of torpedo tubes at sea,lying about in -32degrees of snow to being in the desert at one minute extreme heat,then cold at night, there is not always time to acclimatise,you have to go where and when needed at a moments call, there is no room for failure, 1 man can get you all killed, as the advert says "be the best", WM

[jmilam08 193]

Rip mate,he new what he was goin for, iv got pals in the paras and i can't even comprehend there way of thinking and iv known them since they were 3.tney strive to be the fittest, pushing on until they drop no matter what,the country's finest,you'll be missed in service I'm sure.

[Dig-deep-draw-charlie 2,713]

RIP brother, see you in he re org!

 

but to compare it to Iraq or Afghanistan is mad, terrain isn't the same and the heat isn't the same! infact it's not ever close

[gnasher16 30,494]

Not to sound too harsh on the lad but should 8 miles in 2 hours carrying 25kg be a particularly difficult task for a strong healthy young man to do regardless of weather when they can stay hydrated throughout ?........its not much more than a fast walk........sounds to me like the boy must of had some kind of medical problem that already existed....no ?

 

Id like to ask the army lads here.....is there some kind of underlying competitive nature in these type of exercises whereby a lad may be pushing for the fastest time ?......and therefore pushing too hard.....its the only thing i can think as to why it wouldnt be a reasonably comfortable exercise.

[neems 2,406]

Not to sound too harsh on the lad but should 8 miles in 2 hours carrying 25kg be a particularly difficult task for a strong healthy young man to do regardless of weather when they can stay hydrated throughout ?........its not much more than a fast walk........sounds to me like the boy must of had some kind of medical problem that already existed....no ?

 

Id like to ask the army lads here.....is there some kind of underlying competitive nature in these type of exercises whereby a lad may be pushing for the fastest time ?......and therefore pushing too hard.....its the only thing i can think as to why it wouldnt be a reasonably comfortable exercise.

 

If it was a forced march or tab then the time's set and whoever's leading it chooses the pace,there's no rushing ahead.

 

We've no idea what they'd done before,were they already very fatigued/dehydrated?

[socks 32,253]

Not to sound too harsh on the lad but should 8 miles in 2 hours carrying 25kg be a particularly difficult task for a strong healthy young man to do regardless of weather when they can stay hydrated throughout ?........its not much more than a fast walk........sounds to me like the boy must of had some kind of medical problem that already existed....no ?

 

Id like to ask the army lads here.....is there some kind of underlying competitive nature in these type of exercises whereby a lad may be pushing for the fastest time ?......and therefore pushing too hard.....its the only thing i can think as to why it wouldnt be a reasonably comfortable exercise.

He was doing the basic infantry fitness test mate ... It is timed by a PTI to the minuet with a forced water stop half way round ... There is no pushing ahead the pace is controlled throughout ... I've done that route many many times and it isn't particularly taxing with only one testing hill and a fair bit of it is under shade ... As you have sId and I said earlier the poor lad must have had an underlying problem that will come out when the postmortem results are delivered ......

[Dig-deep-draw-charlie 2,713]

well if he was doing it for senior breacon he would have done the same route for junior breacon, maybe not same conditions, but it could be anything