p3d 879 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Share Posted July 23, 2016 You can get Blue Wheatens and also Wheaten Kerry Blues even today in litters. There are from the same root stock and the Irish Kennel Club (IKC) split them into two made up breeds. The colour is just a slight genetic difference. Even the Glen of Imaal was split from the same root stock, early litters could contain one of each type. The first Glen of Imaal show gives an image of the first Glens, they were much higher on the leg than the dwarf animals that we see today. IMO these three breeds are the same dog, just split by genetic differences by the IKC. 4 Quote Link to post
Lenmcharristar 9,588 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Share Posted July 23, 2016 Defo an animal top of my wish list Quote Link to post
p3d 879 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Share Posted July 23, 2016 Defo an animal top of my wish list Len, Be careful what you wish for Working Wheatens are a liability in any yard. I have had the privilege to know men who championed the working Wheaten and see their dogs in the field. What sticks in my memory is an image of Sharks with legs! They are quiet as a lamb and in split second your Jack Russell is lifeless in front of you. That video was from a different era, we can admire those dogs and their history but IMO they struggle to have a place on these islands in todays hunting world. Perhaps on a different continent these game dogs will find work. 4 Quote Link to post
Lenmcharristar 9,588 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Share Posted July 23, 2016 Defo an animal top of my wish list Len, Be careful what you wish for Working Wheatens are a liability in any yard. I have had the privilege to know men who championed the working Wheaten and see their dogs in the field. What sticks in my memory is an image of Sharks with legs! They are quiet as a lamb and in split second your Jack Russell is lifeless in front of you. That video was from a different era, we can admire those dogs and their history but IMO they struggle to have a place on these islands in todays hunting world. Perhaps on a different continent these game dogs will find work. Defo an animal top of my wish list Len, Be careful what you wish for Working Wheatens are a liability in any yard. I have had the privilege to know men who championed the working Wheaten and see their dogs in the field. What sticks in my memory is an image of Sharks with legs! They are quiet as a lamb and in split second your Jack Russell is lifeless in front of you. That video was from a different era, we can admire those dogs and their history but IMO they struggle to have a place on these islands in todays hunting world. Perhaps on a different continent these game dogs will find work. it would only be in a one dog house, but thanks for the heads up mate, think I'd be ok handling one 1 Quote Link to post
p3d 879 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Share Posted July 23, 2016 An early photograph of a KBT litter Also Kerry Blues were still trailed up to the 60's Later the Staff / Irish Staff were the most prominent at the trials. Working Wheatens were there as well but they were thought of as better in the field. I was talking to men at the Westmeath WTC show who remembered them and their work. To hear these men describe how the Wheaten excelled at manoeuvring corners while working reminded me how the guys who bred these dogs had such a high standard. But without a small Jack Russell to spend time sounding and allowing the dig to take place, The strong dogs would have seen little work. Some of these strong dogs heads would not fit into a burrow. 3 Quote Link to post
Lenmcharristar 9,588 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Share Posted July 23, 2016 An early photograph of a KBT litter Early Kerry Blue Litter in the 20's.jpg Also Kerry Blues were still trailed up to the 60's KBT Trialled 1960.jpg Later the Staff / Irish Staff were the most prominent at the trials. Working Wheatens were there as well but they were thought of as better in the field. I was talking to men at the Westmeath WTC show who remembered them and their work. To hear these men describe how the Wheaten excelled at manoeuvring corners while working reminded me how the guys who bred these dogs had such a high standard. But without a small Jack Russell to spend time sounding and allowing the dig to take place, The strong dogs would have seen little work. Some of these strong dogs heads would not fit into a burrow. that staff in the middle looks as though it's thinking, if you come any closer I'm having ye 1 Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 I regularly talk with an old boy from meath who had dogs in the trials he recons the Glenn's were the best dogs in the feild by far due to there relentless nature and more compact size . Quote Link to post
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 https://youtu.be/cCgSiK8ktDc Strong looking dogs The chap with the tache on the left when they get the badger out the boxe looks like he's had a livener or two before he turned up...surprised to see so many turn out to watch rabbits running around a field on a sunday morning Quote Link to post
marshman 7,756 Posted July 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Strong looking dogs The chap with the tache on the left when they get the badger out the boxe looks like he's had a livener or two before he turned up...surprised to see so many turn out to watch rabbits running around a field on a sunday morning they probably made a day of it with a few drinks before and after ? 1 Quote Link to post
marshman 7,756 Posted July 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Got to say them dogs do look a lot different to the Kerry Blues even on some old pics . Quote Link to post
jiggy 3,209 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) . Edited July 24, 2016 by jiggy Quote Link to post
Dead Eyes 681 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) Deleted Edited July 24, 2016 by Dead Eyes Quote Link to post
man o kent 269 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Lord save us, an anti's dream thread 2 Quote Link to post
jiggy 3,209 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Lord save us, an anti's dream threadwell it was 100 years ago but maybe your right Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 I regularly talk with an old boy from meath who had dogs in the trials he recons the Glenn's were the best dogs in the feild by far due to there relentless nature and more compact size . Lee go back and read the results from the trials and see how many glens are there compared to wheatens or staffs,no comparison. Quote Link to post
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