Working Salukis

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

i think it baw

Don't really think so but I have to say the thought crossed my mind. It's just the kind of thing he'd do, isn't it?

[Kate B 32]

I reiterate that I'm no expert on Saluki or crosses. I'm not in the insurance business either so if she starts chopping sheep or pulling down deer in Richmond Park it's got nowt to do with me.. Early exposure to forbidden animals very important :-)

I totally agree. So even before I get the dog I'm getting a cat for it to live with. Because if you live in town and your dog starts having breakfast on the neighbour's moggies you are already in trouble. Then there is the problem of toy dogs. In town you're surrounded by them. And if she starts eating them it's court cases. And then there's sheep. And the problem about living in town is that there aren't any. So how the hell do you set about breaking your dog to them?

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

 

I reiterate that I'm no expert on Saluki or crosses. I'm not in the insurance business either so if she starts chopping sheep or pulling down deer in Richmond Park it's got nowt to do with me.. Early exposure to forbidden animals very important :-)

I totally agree. So even before I get the dog I'm getting a cat for it to live with. Because if you live in town and your dog starts having breakfast on the neighbour's moggies you are already in trouble. Then there is the problem of toy dogs. In town you're surrounded by them. And if she starts eating them it's court cases. And then there's sheep. And the problem about living in town is that there aren't any. So how the hell do you set about breaking your dog to them?

 

I have a cat and my dogs are fine with him but he is "their"cat. I keep a close eye on them anywhere where other cats might appear.

As for sheep, maybe there is a city farm or pet park somewhere near you? You could chat up the owners and explain what you need. Maybe they'd let you bring your pup if you help out with a bit of work.

You'd still need to get the pup used to "wild" sheep though. Sheep that run away are far more tempting, even to a pup you thought was already stock broken. Salukis are a primitive breed, different mentally from more domesticated breeds, especially the working strains of salukis which have very high prey drive. These would be even harder to 100% stockbreak than other lurchers and that's why people have been advising you to avoid a saluki as a first hunting dog.

Good luck with whatever you choose Kate. There're plenty of pitfalls along the way but when everything goes right there's nothing to beat the feeling.

Edited July 15, 2016 by Maximus Ferret

[Kate B 32]

 

 

I reiterate that I'm no expert on Saluki or crosses. I'm not in the insurance business either so if she starts chopping sheep or pulling down deer in Richmond Park it's got nowt to do with me.. Early exposure to forbidden animals very important :-)

I totally agree. So even before I get the dog I'm getting a cat for it to live with. Because if you live in town and your dog starts having breakfast on the neighbour's moggies you are already in trouble. Then there is the problem of toy dogs. In town you're surrounded by them. And if she starts eating them it's court cases. And then there's sheep. And the problem about living in town is that there aren't any. So how the hell do you set about breaking your dog to them?

 

I have a cat and my dogs are fine with him but he is "their"cat. I keep a close eye on them anywhere where other cats might appear.

As for sheep, maybe there is a city farm or pet park somewhere near you? You could chat up the owners and explain what you need. Maybe they'd let you bring your pup if you help out with a bit of work.

You'd still need to get the pup used to "wild" sheep though. Sheep that run away are far more tempting, even to a pup you thought was already stock broken. Salukis are a primitive breed, different mentally from more domesticated breeds, especially the working strains of salukis which have very high prey drive. These would be even harder to 100% stockbreak than other lurchers and that's why people have been advising you to avoid a saluki as a first hunting dog.

Good luck with whatever you choose Kate. There're plenty of pitfalls along the way but when everything goes right there's nothing to beat the feeling.

 

You are preaching to the converted here. Remember, i have actually had a lurcher before. She was cool with 'her' cat but she'd chase strange ones around a bit. But when she got up to them she'd just start wagging her tail. The neighbours might not like having their cats chased but what's really going to upset them is if your dog tears it limb from limb. I thought about the city park thing and yes, thats what i'm going to do, but you are so right - it's a totally different thing from what I liked to call 'the wild sheep'. I learnt that the hard way with my Sul. Where we lived we were surrounded by sheep. In fact they used to be driven past our open gate and all she would do is stand there and give them a bit of a get of my patch bark. Then one day I took her to the west coast where they have the 'wild' ones. And I think you can guess what happened. And people say all this mumbo jumbo about salukis but what about greyhounds? If there's a dog on the planet that will chase anything that moves blindly surely it must be the modern racing greyhound?

[albert64 1,882]

 

I reiterate that I'm no expert on Saluki or crosses. I'm not in the insurance business either so if she starts chopping sheep or pulling down deer in Richmond Park it's got nowt to do with me.. Early exposure to forbidden animals very important :-)

 

I totally agree. So even before I get the dog I'm getting a cat for it to live with. Because if you live in town and your dog starts having breakfast on the neighbour's moggies you are already in trouble. Then there is the problem of toy dogs. In town you're surrounded by them. And if she starts eating them it's court cases. And then there's sheep. And the problem about living in town is that there aren't any. So how the hell do you set about breaking your dog to them?

Tie one to it neck for a few days it'll never bother with em

[Kate B 32]

 

 

I reiterate that I'm no expert on Saluki or crosses. I'm not in the insurance business either so if she starts chopping sheep or pulling down deer in Richmond Park it's got nowt to do with me.. Early exposure to forbidden animals very important :-)

I totally agree. So even before I get the dog I'm getting a cat for it to live with. Because if you live in town and your dog starts having breakfast on the neighbour's moggies you are already in trouble. Then there is the problem of toy dogs. In town you're surrounded by them. And if she starts eating them it's court cases. And then there's sheep. And the problem about living in town is that there aren't any. So how the hell do you set about breaking your dog to them?

Tie one to it neck for a few days it'll never bother with em

 

even if i thought that would work, that wouldn't be the way i'd do things

[riohog 5,701]

as wellas getting a cat , i would recomend a hamster ,sals love chasing them

[albert64 1,882]

 

 

 

I reiterate that I'm no expert on Saluki or crosses. I'm not in the insurance business either so if she starts chopping sheep or pulling down deer in Richmond Park it's got nowt to do with me.. Early exposure to forbidden animals very important :-)

 

I totally agree. So even before I get the dog I'm getting a cat for it to live with. Because if you live in town and your dog starts having breakfast on the neighbour's moggies you are already in trouble. Then there is the problem of toy dogs. In town you're surrounded by them. And if she starts eating them it's court cases. And then there's sheep. And the problem about living in town is that there aren't any. So how the hell do you set about breaking your dog to them?

Tie one to it neck for a few days it'll never bother with em

even if i thought that would work, that wouldn't be the way i'd do things

[albert64 1,882]

 

 

 

 

I reiterate that I'm no expert on Saluki or crosses. I'm not in the insurance business either so if she starts chopping sheep or pulling down deer in Richmond Park it's got nowt to do with me.. Early exposure to forbidden animals very important :-)

I totally agree. So even before I get the dog I'm getting a cat for it to live with. Because if you live in town and your dog starts having breakfast on the neighbour's moggies you are already in trouble. Then there is the problem of toy dogs. In town you're surrounded by them. And if she starts eating them it's court cases. And then there's sheep. And the problem about living in town is that there aren't any. So how the hell do you set about breaking your dog to them?

Tie one to it neck for a few days it'll never bother with em

even if i thought that would work, that wouldn't be the way i'd do things

What will you do with the sheep then when your new saluki catches one

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

I've never had a racing greyhound from a pup but I've stockbroken a racing whippet with about three quarter racing greyhound blood and found no problem. I find racing blood far easier to get a bond with and far less feral than some strains of saluki can be. A saluki or heavily saluki blooded lurcher isn't necessarily going to be a problem but the possibility is always there.

Justin Glover's rescue is to my mind a prime example of a pup whose previous owner failed to cope. Then again, most rescue dogs become rescues because of their previous owners failing them one way or another.

The other problem you might encounter is that the breeders of working lines of pure saluki tend to be wary of letting pups go to people they don't feel will do them justice.

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

as wellas getting a cat , i would recomend a hamster ,sals love chasing them

That'd be no problem to me. I love ham.

[eastcoast 4,084]

The modern "British" greyhound and Saluki may look similar and were developed to perform the same job, sort of, but are very different animals. However, if a person gets a pup early enough in IT'S development then anything is possible. A dog can be created to suite the requirements of it's owner, if the owner has a plan/common sense and can make a connection with the animal. It helps if the dumb animal grows to love it's owner and even more so if the dumb owner allows themselves to become fond of the animal.

[Kate B 32]

 

 

 

 

 

I reiterate that I'm no expert on Saluki or crosses. I'm not in the insurance business either so if she starts chopping sheep or pulling down deer in Richmond Park it's got nowt to do with me.. Early exposure to forbidden animals very important :-)

I totally agree. So even before I get the dog I'm getting a cat for it to live with. Because if you live in town and your dog starts having breakfast on the neighbour's moggies you are already in trouble. Then there is the problem of toy dogs. In town you're surrounded by them. And if she starts eating them it's court cases. And then there's sheep. And the problem about living in town is that there aren't any. So how the hell do you set about breaking your dog to them?

Tie one to it neck for a few days it'll never bother with em

even if i thought that would work, that wouldn't be the way i'd do things

What will you do with the sheep then when your new saluki catches one

 

eat it.

[Kate B 32]

I've never had a racing greyhound from a pup but I've stockbroken a racing whippet with about three quarter racing greyhound blood and found no problem. I find racing blood far easier to get a bond with and far less feral than some strains of saluki can be. A saluki or heavily saluki blooded lurcher isn't necessarily going to be a problem but the possibility is always there.

Justin Glover's rescue is to my mind a prime example of a pup whose previous owner failed to cope. Then again, most rescue dogs become rescues because of their previous owners failing them one way or another.

The other problem you might encounter is that the breeders of working lines of pure saluki tend to be wary of letting pups go to people they don't feel will do them justice.

I've never done anything but justice to any dog i've ever had. I am NOT justin and i'm sorry to say that i would be ashamed of myself if I was.

[Kate B 32]

You wait. In 16 years time, i'll be putting up RIP messages of my beloved empress of a working saluki and you'll all cry with me ... if God lets us live so long. Night night