Lakeland , Patterdale And White Lakelands

[morton 5,368]

If a terrier is white (doesn't matter what colour it's parents were) then it's a Jack Russell. if it's typey and rough coated then it's either a Lakeland or a Russell depending on the show you're at. If it's a black and Tan then it's a Lakeland unless of course it's a Fell.

If it's black and smooth then it's a Patterdale but if it's brother is rough coated then he's a black fell. But then again he might be a black Lakeland.

But he might be white with black marking which means the show world is your oyster because he could be a russell, a white lakey or a patterdale which throws up white terriers. If he's black and tan but smooth then he's a patterdale but if his brother is rough coated then he's a Lakeland.

If he's black smooth coated and has a large head then he's a bull cross (even though you might have the line for 40 years) whether you like it or not.

If your line of lakeland starts to produce a few white ones then you can tell the wife you'll be able to afford that diamond ring she's had her eye on and if your line of black terriers starts to produce some chocolates then you can tell her she can have that villa in Spain.

Hope this helps, LOL.

White lakelands had no Russel in the mix,the nearest thing to a Patterdale is a black and tan terrier.

[Treehands. 1,379]

If that was so, where does the white enter the line .

The pic I put up was goulds Flint which was heavily used on Russell's.

Back in the days of Fred Barker of chowt faced rock fame

He also had white terriers from the ilfracome badger digging club,

which I believe we're of Arther Heinmans lines.

Did these terriers not blend into fell lines over time.

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

Flint had coloured littermates also didn't he?

[Treehands. 1,379]

In my mind Flint was a White Lakeland from Middleton lines and was not a russel.

Colour does not dictate the breed

You can describe a white terrier as a jack russel type , but that does not make it a "jack russel".

Would you say every terrier with a Curley coat a bedlington Morton ?

[Bosun11 537]

 

If a terrier is white (doesn't matter what colour it's parents were) then it's a Jack Russell. if it's typey and rough coated then it's either a Lakeland or a Russell depending on the show you're at. If it's a black and Tan then it's a Lakeland unless of course it's a Fell.

If it's black and smooth then it's a Patterdale but if it's brother is rough coated then he's a black fell. But then again he might be a black Lakeland.

But he might be white with black marking which means the show world is your oyster because he could be a russell, a white lakey or a patterdale which throws up white terriers. If he's black and tan but smooth then he's a patterdale but if his brother is rough coated then he's a Lakeland.

If he's black smooth coated and has a large head then he's a bull cross (even though you might have the line for 40 years) whether you like it or not.

If your line of lakeland starts to produce a few white ones then you can tell the wife you'll be able to afford that diamond ring she's had her eye on and if your line of black terriers starts to produce some chocolates then you can tell her she can have that villa in Spain.

Hope this helps, LOL.

White lakelands had no Russel in the mix,the nearest thing to a Patterdale is a black and tan terrier.

 

 

I think Anthony Barker would have said different...

[pablo esc 1,598]

fell terrier . not a black fell. I did fell the tree

[Boss-Hog 270]

i got donkey in barn don't mean its race horse lol

[Dead Eyes 681]

In my mind they're all fell terriers.

 

If they're black then they're Pats, but not if they're Black and Tan - because they're lakelands. Unless they're Jagd's.

 

If they're white then I'm not rightly sure

 

If they're red then they're Lakeland or fells. I think.

 

 

On a more serious note. Two SOLID colour terriers CANNOT produce a white chest or body. It's a scientific impossibility

[pablo esc 1,598]

I'd say the can pal. But used see terriers like blacks and fells with small white bit on chest or different size shape o r star

[Dead Eyes 681]

They'd have had a white patch on them somewhere - even if only a toe

 

It's genetically impossible. In the same way that two liver nosed can have a black, and two blue dogs can't produce a black

[pablo esc 1,598]

Yes you could be right pal . !

[pablo esc 1,598]

What if the got no bit of white at all and same with parents or maybe one has tiny bit.bull terrier ' border /would have white bit chest. Would thought a fell terrier have lakeland back in it and a mutt but a true working dog not some fancy name like white lakeland .but if the go back to the lakes and workers the all something "fell terriers and the border was kept and worked by these men consistantly