Labour Leadership Election

[Nik_B 3,790]

Unite against austerity is like saying unite against the weather. Should we keep borrowing money from the tax receipts of our children, they will go without thanks to the greed and selfishness of our generations unless we get on top.of it right now. It amazes me that young people fall for socialism and think it's something new....we've had it in the UK and it never did anything good. More government is never a good thing luckily most people including Labour voters are well aware or this which is why Labour is polling so baddly.

[walshie 2,804]

One thing is puzzling me, out of all the photos of people attending to hear Corbyn speak I can only see one person of that looks Indian and one coloured woman, does he not appeal to the ethnic minorities?

 

TC

 

You'd think his PR people would have hired some in to make him look more multi-cultural in the photos.

[WILF 46,649]

Unite against austerity is like saying unite against the weather. Should we keep borrowing money from the tax receipts of our children, they will go without thanks to the greed and selfishness of our generations unless we get on top.of it right now. It amazes me that young people fall for socialism and think it's something new....we've had it in the UK and it never did anything good. More government is never a good thing luckily most people including Labour voters are well aware or this which is why Labour is polling so baddly.

Mate it's gone beyond that, they have borrowed on the strength of your grandchildrens grandchildren.............and what have any of them done with these riches beyond imagination?

Did the world get one bit better ?

[Lenmcharristar 9,731]

Just turned us into a dla/benefits (lazy basstard). Nation

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

Unite against austerity is like saying unite against the weather. Should we keep borrowing money from the tax receipts of our children, they will go without thanks to the greed and selfishness of our generations unless we get on top.of it right now. It amazes me that young people fall for socialism and think it's something new....we've had it in the UK and it never did anything good. More government is never a good thing luckily most people including Labour voters are well aware or this which is why Labour is polling so baddly.

Mate it's gone beyond that, they have borrowed on the strength of your grandchildrens grandchildren.............and what have any of them done with these riches beyond imagination?

Did the world get one bit better ?

Yep they went on a spending spree increasing public sector wages, benefits and public spending.....turkeys don't vote for xmas and they secured a lot of votes doing that. The conservatives are mildly socialist, there isn't a right wing libertarian party anymore especially as UKIP got infiltrated by lefties like Carswell and that twat from the express....luxury shoe tax anyone?

[BGD 6,436]

Osbourne with his discredited austerity economic policy has increased the national debt more than every Labour government in history combined, didn't do a very good job of not borrowing on our children's tax receipts did he? Almost like all the leading economists who say austerity doesn't work are right.

Edited July 31, 2016 by BGD

[BGD 6,436]

One thing is puzzling me, out of all the photos of people attending to hear Corbyn speak I can only see one person of that looks Indian and one coloured woman, does he not appeal to the ethnic minorities?

 

TC

 

Doesn't make any sense does it? Always hearing on here how it's only immigrants and other minorities that support Labour

[Nik_B 3,790]

Osbourne with his discredited austerity economic policy has increased the national debt more than every Labour government in history combined, didn't do a very good job of not borrowing on our children's tax receipts did he? Almost like all the leading economists who say austerity doesn't work are right.

Once you have built up debt on a credit card it's hard to pay it off especially if your wages drop. The damage was done by labour, the coalition couldn't have put in to place the austerity needed to get the deficit down fast enough because labour supporters and other lefties would have gone mental about cuts to any services. Once you have debt it grows....that is the problem and while I am no fan of Osborne he was hamstrung yet has done a reasonable job. If I'd been in charge I would have slashed public spending so hard the deficit would have vanished within a few years....I belive in paying off debt before embarking on stupid spending plans like ring fensing the nhs, foreign aid and any wage increases for the public sector. Osborne is one of yours...a leftist and a socialist

[BGD 6,436]

Pretty much all economists now agree austerity did more damage to the economy after the recession, the countries that invested rather than cut have actually seen real recovery as opposed to our stagnating economy.

 

A leftist socialist who privatises national industries and cuts public spending to fund cuts in the top rate of income and corporation tax Not everyone to the left of Ayn Rand is a socialist

Edited July 31, 2016 by BGD

[Nik_B 3,790]

Compared to the reality socialist countries in Europe our economy is doing great. Those countries went full Keynesean and we didn't yet were doing far better so I don't think kicking the can down the road would have helped

[Tiercel 6,986]

I have never been able to fathom out why people who are for the most part very intelligent well educated people fall for rhetoric? Perhaps it is because they have been told there is a pot of gold if you sell your soul and work hard enough? Or, it just could be that they truly want to get ahead and are prepared to do what they believe is "what it takes" to get ahead.

 

The sad thing is, that even with everything stacked against them some do a pretty good job of it. Only to be chopped down in their prime by their masters because it does not fit in with their masters overall plan.

 

The sooner people wake up to the two tier system word wide where the have's manipulate the have nots, the sooner they will be happier with their station in life. Even if you work for your self you still have to have customers and when your customers are using you as a pawn on a chess board what chance do you have?

 

TC

[BGD 6,436]

Compared to the reality socialist countries in Europe our economy is doing great. Those countries went full Keynesean and we didn't yet were doing far better so I don't think kicking the can down the road would have helped

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/jul/27/uk-joins-greece-at-bottom-of-wage-growth-league-tuc-oecd

 

Biggest fall in wages of any advanced country apart from Greece. Oh aye the economy is going great guns, really working for the average man on the street too

Edited July 31, 2016 by BGD

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

Compared to the reality socialist countries in Europe our economy is doing great. Those countries went full Keynesean and we didn't yet were doing far better so I don't think kicking the can down the road would have helped

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/jul/27/uk-joins-greece-at-bottom-of-wage-growth-league-tuc-oecd

 

Biggest fall in wages of any advanced country apart from Greece. Oh aye the economy is going great guns, really working for the average man on the street too

You're quoting the guardian

[Nik_B 3,790]

I have never been able to fathom out why people who are for the most part very intelligent well educated people fall for rhetoric? Perhaps it is because they have been told there is a pot of gold if you sell your soul and work hard enough? Or, it just could be that they truly want to get ahead and are prepared to do what they believe is "what it takes" to get ahead.

 

The sad thing is, that even with everything stacked against them some do a pretty good job of it. Only to be chopped down in their prime by their masters because it does not fit in with their masters overall plan.

 

The sooner people wake up to the two tier system word wide where the have's manipulate the have nots, the sooner they will be happier with their station in life. Even if you work for your self you still have to have customers and when your customers are using you as a pawn on a chess board what chance do you have?

 

TC

Agreed on all counts. I've decided to deal myself out of this rigged system...if other people do as well which I think they are then tax receipts are going to plummet...who will be left to pay for benefits and public sector pensions?

[Tiercel 6,986]

 

I have never been able to fathom out why people who are for the most part very intelligent well educated people fall for rhetoric? Perhaps it is because they have been told there is a pot of gold if you sell your soul and work hard enough? Or, it just could be that they truly want to get ahead and are prepared to do what they believe is "what it takes" to get ahead.

 

The sad thing is, that even with everything stacked against them some do a pretty good job of it. Only to be chopped down in their prime by their masters because it does not fit in with their masters overall plan.

 

The sooner people wake up to the two tier system word wide where the have's manipulate the have nots, the sooner they will be happier with their station in life. Even if you work for your self you still have to have customers and when your customers are using you as a pawn on a chess board what chance do you have?

 

TC

Agreed on all counts. I've decided to deal myself out of this rigged system...if other people do as well which I think they are then tax receipts are going to plummet...who will be left to pay for benefits and public sector pensions?

 

All the ones who have been dodging their liabilities?

 

TC