DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 I think golovkin just had no respect for brooks power and just chucked defender out the window and went headhunting, I'd like to see GB,s proper middleweights step upto the plate and face him before he gets old and drops off the cliff, I'll respect whoever fights him an loses now more than those who wait and beat him when he's to old Seriously watch the fight with no sound on, Brook doesn't do half of what appeared at first due to the crowd and commentary.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 I think golovkin just had no respect for brooks power and just chucked defender out the window and went headhunting, I'd like to see GB,s proper middleweights step upto the plate and face him before he gets old and drops off the cliff, I'll respect whoever fights him an loses now more than those who wait and beat him when he's to oldSeriously watch the fight with no sound on, Brook doesn't do half of what appeared at first due to the crowd and commentary.... I just mean the way golovkin walked him down with little to no attempt to slip/block shots. I don't think brook was or should have been ahead on the cards I thought he may have edged the 2nd but that's all. Two skilled fighters separated by size/power Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Bjs beats Ggg i wasn't that impressed with gennady he didn't have any defence and brook was tagging him pretty easily I think Eubank could beat him also Be a good fight, GGG wasn't at his best last night, his movement wasn't at its finest, I think Billy will hold his own for 6 or 7 rounds, then GGG gets to him....that's providing GGG hasn't aged and still has the legs.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 I think golovkin just had no respect for brooks power and just chucked defender out the window and went headhunting, I'd like to see GB,s proper middleweights step upto the plate and face him before he gets old and drops off the cliff, I'll respect whoever fights him an loses now more than those who wait and beat him when he's to oldSeriously watch the fight with no sound on, Brook doesn't do half of what appeared at first due to the crowd and commentary....I just mean the way golovkin walked him down with little to no attempt to slip/block shots. I don't think brook was or should have been ahead on the cards I thought he may have edged the 2nd but that's all. Two skilled fighters separated by size/power Brook probably won the second round, that's about it. Did the judges forget that Golovkin nearly had him out in the first round.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 I think golovkin just had no respect for brooks power and just chucked defender out the window and went headhunting, I'd like to see GB,s proper middleweights step upto the plate and face him before he gets old and drops off the cliff, I'll respect whoever fights him an loses now more than those who wait and beat him when he's to oldSeriously watch the fight with no sound on, Brook doesn't do half of what appeared at first due to the crowd and commentary....I just mean the way golovkin walked him down with little to no attempt to slip/block shots. I don't think brook was or should have been ahead on the cards I thought he may have edged the 2nd but that's all. Two skilled fighters separated by size/powerBrook probably won the second round, that's about it. Did the judges forget that Golovkin nearly had him out in the first round.... Was he up on the official cards? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 I think golovkin just had no respect for brooks power and just chucked defender out the window and went headhunting, I'd like to see GB,s proper middleweights step upto the plate and face him before he gets old and drops off the cliff, I'll respect whoever fights him an loses now more than those who wait and beat him when he's to oldSeriously watch the fight with no sound on, Brook doesn't do half of what appeared at first due to the crowd and commentary....I just mean the way golovkin walked him down with little to no attempt to slip/block shots. I don't think brook was or should have been ahead on the cards I thought he may have edged the 2nd but that's all. Two skilled fighters separated by size/power Brook probably won the second round, that's about it. Did the judges forget that Golovkin nearly had him out in the first round.... GGG fairly shook him in the first round, look at Kell's face when he sinks in that body shot, savage shot followed by the hook...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Do you think his disregard for defense was maybe because he didnt see Brook as much of a threat??...he said after Brook didnt hit like a middleweight I havent seen enough of him to know if its just the way he fights everyone but yes it would make sense wouldnt it......he doesnt show feints or move his head at all,and doesnt really jab his way in i truly believe its his footwork that intimidates opponents he seems to just glide into a space that as a fighter it can throw you that he has the audacity to be there....hard to explain but ive rarely seen footwork like it. Have a look at his fight with David Lemeuix, uses his jab to good effect in that fight.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,922 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Hes beat people we prob dont know exist lol but who has bjs really fought? A young eubank and a washed up spike ? Couldnt say who would win out of ggg or bjs but i no its gona be a goodun better than fury klitchso bullshit...They should put bjs v Ggg knntge same card as fury klitcksko 2 that way you'll have two gypsy champions beating two Eastern Europeans promoted by k2 on the same night lol think you'll find it the other way bj would last fewer rounds then brook. Don't turn this thread into another pokey worship ffs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,922 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 yes mate so it could be blind loyalty on my part but couldn't bet against a local lad. If you win mate the money will be in you on monday as i dont do internet banking, Keepdiggin put that 100 into the Bradley fund will you mate please.......over on the thread Max started about the sick young lad.....cheers good gesture gnash, real gent thing to do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 If the truth be known, I don't believe GGG believed that Brook could hurt him hence the way he just walked him down. If GGG fought a natural middleweight i.e. BJS or Eubank he would have a fought a different fight, either way I don't see BJS or Eubank going more than 8-9 rounds with him 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 GGG is an excellent fighter and I have said before I can't see anybody beating him until he gets old and starts slowing down. I have to say though I think the first signs of him slowing down appeared in this fight, unless of course he was just having a bad night (by his standards). Whatever the case he was a deserved winner against a quality opponent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 yes mate so it could be blind loyalty on my part but couldn't bet against a local lad. If you win mate the money will be in you on monday as i dont do internet banking, Keepdiggin put that 100 into the Bradley fund will you mate please.......over on the thread Max started about the sick young lad.....cheers Top man that's a real nice gesture Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) He was heavier than GGG in there, he's been killing himself to make 147lb. You tell me how he makes Welterweight yet kept his strength, I'm guessing because of a really good nutritionist..... Any other fighter at Middleweight and he'd have been in with a real shout. He faced an ATG in the making. It was not the size that lost him the fight. He makes welterweight the same way any other fighter makes weight....making weight is a science do you think Kell Brook is the only fighter who cuts weight ?.........ive got a lad cutting 15 lb for a kick boxing contest next weekend done correctly he,ll be fine but that doesnt mean he should fight in a higher weight division......if size had no bearing on last nights fight are we to presume Brook cant punch or Golovkin has a granite chin ?.....most top middleweights would of taken Brook into the later rounds where weight plays a big part but Golovkin did what Golovkin does.He cut weight to make Middleweight, he was bigger than GGG at the weigh-in and on the day of the fight. Golovkin hasn't felt the need to cut to a lower weight, he could if he killed himself like Brook was doing to make 147lb. Brook can punch, it's just he was punching a brick wall. The man's chin is pure granite and he's a warrior through and through. Brook would be a nightmare for any Middleweight not named Golovkin, he's that good. Just because Brook was bigger at the weigh in or on the day of the fight doesnt mean he is the bigger man i dont think you fully appreciate how cutting weight works......in a million years Golovkin couldnt make welterweight,Brook can make welterweight it really is that simple.....without sounding impolite are you not the chap who thinks every fighter who adds or loses lots of weight quickly is on steroids In very very simple terms cutting weight is predominantly about losing water weight,first you have to lose sodium/salt as its salt that holds onto water in the body so by flushing the body of salt through a very high intake of water and then from 24 - 36 hours before weigh in you take no water on at all you dehydrate so your body starts to pull away from water and you virtually piss away the pounds.......then rehydrate after weighing in thats obviously a very simplistic example but im simply making the point that Brook fought well above his natural fighting weight and probably gained no more than 1 - 2 lb in actual muscle tissue to fight Golovkin. Edited September 12, 2016 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) He was heavier than GGG in there, he's been killing himself to make 147lb. You tell me how he makes Welterweight yet kept his strength, I'm guessing because of a really good nutritionist..... Any other fighter at Middleweight and he'd have been in with a real shout. He faced an ATG in the making. It was not the size that lost him the fight. He makes welterweight the same way any other fighter makes weight....making weight is a science do you think Kell Brook is the only fighter who cuts weight ?.........ive got a lad cutting 15 lb for a kick boxing contest next weekend done correctly he,ll be fine but that doesnt mean he should fight in a higher weight division......if size had no bearing on last nights fight are we to presume Brook cant punch or Golovkin has a granite chin ?.....most top middleweights would of taken Brook into the later rounds where weight plays a big part but Golovkin did what Golovkin does.He cut weight to make Middleweight, he was bigger than GGG at the weigh-in and on the day of the fight. Golovkin hasn't felt the need to cut to a lower weight, he could if he killed himself like Brook was doing to make 147lb. Brook can punch, it's just he was punching a brick wall. The man's chin is pure granite and he's a warrior through and through. Brook would be a nightmare for any Middleweight not named Golovkin, he's that good. Just because Brook was bigger at the weigh in or on the day of the fight doesnt mean he is the bigger man i dont think you fully appreciate how cutting weight works......in a million years Golovkin couldnt make welterweight,Brook can make welterweight it really is that simple.....without sounding impolite are you not the chap who thinks every fighter who adds or loses lots of weight quickly is on steroids In very very simple terms cutting weight is predominantly about losing water weight,first you have to lose sodium/salt as its salt that holds onto water in the body so by flushing the body of salt through a very high intake of water and then from 24 - 36 hours before weigh in you dehydrate your body starts to pull away from water and you virtually piss away the pounds.......obviously thats a very simplistic example but im simply making the point that Brook fought well above his natural fighting weight and probably gained no more than 1 - 2 lb in actual muscle tissue to fight Golovkin. Who said Brook is the bigger man? He was the bigger man on the weigh in and on the day of the fight, GGG walks around 170lb so he cuts around 10lb to make weight. He's not a massive Middleweight by any means. He's never attempted to make Welterweight, because he hasn't doesn't mean he could never. Seeing Tommy Hearns at 34 would you have said he could have made Welterweight? Golovkin agreed to fight at 154lb and said he could make the weight easily.... I know steroids help you perform at levels that would not be possible naturally with such low body fat and that's a fact. Edited September 12, 2016 by DogFox123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) He was heavier than GGG in there, he's been killing himself to make 147lb. You tell me how he makes Welterweight yet kept his strength, I'm guessing because of a really good nutritionist..... Any other fighter at Middleweight and he'd have been in with a real shout. He faced an ATG in the making. It was not the size that lost him the fight. He makes welterweight the same way any other fighter makes weight....making weight is a science do you think Kell Brook is the only fighter who cuts weight ?.........ive got a lad cutting 15 lb for a kick boxing contest next weekend done correctly he,ll be fine but that doesnt mean he should fight in a higher weight division......if size had no bearing on last nights fight are we to presume Brook cant punch or Golovkin has a granite chin ?.....most top middleweights would of taken Brook into the later rounds where weight plays a big part but Golovkin did what Golovkin does.He cut weight to make Middleweight, he was bigger than GGG at the weigh-in and on the day of the fight. Golovkin hasn't felt the need to cut to a lower weight, he could if he killed himself like Brook was doing to make 147lb. Brook can punch, it's just he was punching a brick wall. The man's chin is pure granite and he's a warrior through and through. Brook would be a nightmare for any Middleweight not named Golovkin, he's that good. Just because Brook was bigger at the weigh in or on the day of the fight doesnt mean he is the bigger man i dont think you fully appreciate how cutting weight works......in a million years Golovkin couldnt make welterweight,Brook can make welterweight it really is that simple.....without sounding impolite are you not the chap who thinks every fighter who adds or loses lots of weight quickly is on steroids In very very simple terms cutting weight is predominantly about losing water weight,first you have to lose sodium/salt as its salt that holds onto water in the body so by flushing the body of salt through a very high intake of water and then from 24 - 36 hours before weigh in you dehydrate your body starts to pull away from water and you virtually piss away the pounds.......obviously thats a very simplistic example but im simply making the point that Brook fought well above his natural fighting weight and probably gained no more than 1 - 2 lb in actual muscle tissue to fight Golovkin. Who said Brook is the bigger man? He was the bigger man on the weigh in and on the day of the fight, GGG walks around 170lb so he cuts around 10lb to make weight. He's not a massive Middleweight by any means. He's never attempted to make Welterweight, because he hasn't doesn't mean he could never. Seeing Tommy Hearns at 34 would you have said he could have made Welterweight? Golovkin agreed to fight at 154lb and said he could make the weight easily.... I know steroids help you perform at levels that would not be possible naturally with such low body fat and that's a fact. He was NOT the bigger man at the weigh in or on the day of the fight....he just weighed more !!.......if Carl Frampton weighed more than Golovkin on the day of a fight does that make him the bigger man ? At the check weigh in a month before the bout im told Brook was up around 180 to Golovkins 165.....he still wasn't the bigger man !......Brook had to lose a lot of weight to make 160,you cannot add muscle on a calorie deficit and you cant lose weight without a calorie deficit yes of course you could look at Tommy Hearns later in his career and believe he could of made welterweight if you understand body types and the differences in body types....if you have this one size fits all " if they get big they are on steroids " mentality then no you probably wont. Edited September 12, 2016 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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