walshie 2,804 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 A wall falling on someone is a tragedy. A boat sinking and people drowning is a tragedy. Bombs planted by scum in a major city is a terrorist attack. What else would you expect from a terrorist sympathiser? Exacly where I'm coming from & Thats how the man in the street would talk not Affraid of upsetting Muslims or being called racist for stating the facts . Who cares if you are called a racist or not? It's only words. People call me fat. I prefer the term big-boned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted July 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 A crime as heinous as that should be remembered even if it was 100 years ago. No-one's saying live in fear of those dogs, but the dead deserve to be remembered. And just because there hasn't been a comparable attack on British soil since, doesn't mean there won't be. No one is saying it shouldn't be remembered, there was a really nice service at the memorial in Hyde Park earlier today just like there is every year. Apparently that isn't enough for some though? I guess they want a national day of mourning or something. Maybe not a National day but a little mention in the National papers like the Sun on the anniversary is not much to ask for......................or a mention on the national radio stations Was it even mentioned on the likes of newsnight or Sky i didn't see any mention of it No mention on The Sun's website but who cares about that rag anyway? It was in other national papers though and the memorial service was mentioned on Sky and BBC TV news, saw it myself. You're complaing about the media not paying any attention to it when you've clearly not even looked to see if they mentioned it. Why do some people feel the need to make up things to get offended over I'm not making anything up the reason I mention It is because I heard no mention from several sources radio tv newspaper The only reason it came to mind is I had 2 customers in the shop discussing the lack of coverage in the newspapers and the tv Yes some may have put a snippet on their websites but no mention on radio no mention in the newspapers....the Sun is is just one of the many outlets who had no mention on website or paper so parts of the media have ignored it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 A wall falling on someone is a tragedy. A boat sinking and people drowning is a tragedy. Bombs planted by scum in a major city is a terrorist attack. What else would you expect from a terrorist sympathiser? Exacly where I'm coming from & Thats how the man in the street would talk not Affraid of upsetting Muslims or being called racist for stating the facts . Who cares if you are called a racist or not? It's only words. People call me fat. I prefer the term big-boned. I don't give a flying Fukc when I'm stating the obvious . . It's those who use that term in them circumstances who are the problem i.e, either terrorist sympathisers or people who are brainwashed to belief certain people / faiths can only be criticised in a certain way . . With Kid Gloves !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltjnr 7,041 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 A shooting has gone of in Dallas.five cops shot dead I have just seen on the news A tragic shooting ,or terrorist shooting ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) A wall falling on someone is a tragedy. A boat sinking and people drowning is a tragedy. Bombs planted by scum in a major city is a terrorist attack. What else would you expect from a terrorist sympathiser? Exacly where I'm coming from & Thats how the man in the street would talk not Affraid of upsetting Muslims or being called racist for stating the facts . He called them "coordinated suicide bomb attacks" what's the difference between that and "terrorist attack"? Is "terrorist attack carried out by Muslim extremists" the only way we're allowed to refer to the 7/7 bombings whenever they're mentioned? It's a bit of a mouthful and doesn't scan too well for speeches but if the words offend your poor sensitve souls I guess we'll just have to get used to it And I thought folk on here hated the PC brigade policing what folk can say incase it offends someone, turns out you're just the same as them Edited July 8, 2016 by BGD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 "As Mayor, my first priority is to do everything possible to prevent a tragedy like this from happening again," he said. The above is what he said & that is what I quoted on . . You are not a fool & know Exacly where I'm coming from & where he is coming from . . The difference is if any British or American politician used the same words where describing an Attrocity like 7/7 say in Iraq / Syria where innocent people died at there hands I'd say the word TRAGEDY doesn't / wouldn't describe the Incident . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 "As Mayor, my first priority is to do everything possible to prevent a tragedy like this from happening again," he said. The above is what he said & that is what I quoted on . . You are not a fool & know Exacly where I'm coming from & where he is coming from . . The difference is if any British or American politician used the same words where describing an Attrocity like 7/7 say in Iraq / Syria where innocent people died at there hands I'd say the word TRAGEDY doesn't / wouldn't describe the Incident . Why are you only interested in that line and not the two that come before it? Eleven years ago our city came under attack, killing 52 people and injuring over 700 in four coordinated suicide bomb attacks across our transport network. Today, we remember those we lost and the heroic efforts of our emergency services and transport colleagues on that darkest of days. As Mayor, my first priority is to do everything possible to prevent a tragedy like this from happening again. That's what he said. Now tell me, what's the difference between "coordinated suicide bomb attacks" and "terrorist attacks". Surely the first is just giving more details? Why does "coordinated suicide bomb attacks" offend you so much but "terrorist attack" is fine? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,838 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 A wall falling on someone is a tragedy. A boat sinking and people drowning is a tragedy. Bombs planted by scum in a major city is a terrorist attack. What else would you expect from a terrorist sympathiser? Exacly where I'm coming from & Thats how the man in the street would talk not Affraid of upsetting Muslims or being called racist for stating the facts . He called them "coordinated suicide bomb attacks" what's the difference between that and "terrorist attack"? Is "terrorist attack carried out by Muslim extremists" the only way we're allowed to refer to the 7/7 bombings whenever they're mentioned? It's a bit of a mouthful and doesn't scan too well for speeches but if the words offend your poor sensitve souls I guess we'll just have to get used to it And I thought folk on here hated the PC brigade policing what folk can say incase it offends someone, turns out you're just the same as them let me ask you this bgd....if your family...mum, dad, brothers, sisters, kids......where on a bus, and a terrorist detonated a bomb on it, and it killed all of your family members, would you explain it to your friends as a tragedy.....or....it was a terrorist attack that killed them? also....what would the headlines be on the news for it.....would the headlines be.....a terrorist bomb attack on a bus kills all passengers? or, a bomb blew a bus up today killing all the passengers, it's a tragedy? it would be a tragedy if the bus driver had a heart attack and crashed the bus, killing everyone on board.....but i don't think you can call an organised bombing to purposely kill a load of people a tragedy? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 A wall falling on someone is a tragedy. A boat sinking and people drowning is a tragedy. Bombs planted by scum in a major city is a terrorist attack. What else would you expect from a terrorist sympathiser? Exacly where I'm coming from & Thats how the man in the street would talk not Affraid of upsetting Muslims or being called racist for stating the facts . He called them "coordinated suicide bomb attacks" what's the difference between that and "terrorist attack"? Is "terrorist attack carried out by Muslim extremists" the only way we're allowed to refer to the 7/7 bombings whenever they're mentioned? It's a bit of a mouthful and doesn't scan too well for speeches but if the words offend your poor sensitve souls I guess we'll just have to get used to it And I thought folk on here hated the PC brigade policing what folk can say incase it offends someone, turns out you're just the same as them let me ask you this bgd....if your family...mum, dad, brothers, sisters, kids......where on a bus, and a terrorist detonated a bomb on it, and it killed all of your family members, would you explain it to your friends as a tragedy.....or....it was a terrorist attack that killed them? also....what would the headlines be on the news for it.....would the headlines be.....a terrorist bomb attack on a bus kills all passengers? or, a bomb blew a bus up today killing all the passengers, it's a tragedy? it would be a tragedy if the bus driver had a heart attack and crashed the bus, killing everyone on board.....but i don't think you can call an organised bombing to purposely kill a load of people a tragedy? Why can't it be both a terrorist attack (or coordinated suicide bomb attack) AND a tragedy? That's probably how I'd describe and think of it if it effected me personally... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,838 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 A wall falling on someone is a tragedy. A boat sinking and people drowning is a tragedy. Bombs planted by scum in a major city is a terrorist attack. What else would you expect from a terrorist sympathiser? Exacly where I'm coming from & Thats how the man in the street would talk not Affraid of upsetting Muslims or being called racist for stating the facts . He called them "coordinated suicide bomb attacks" what's the difference between that and "terrorist attack"? Is "terrorist attack carried out by Muslim extremists" the only way we're allowed to refer to the 7/7 bombings whenever they're mentioned? It's a bit of a mouthful and doesn't scan too well for speeches but if the words offend your poor sensitve souls I guess we'll just have to get used to it And I thought folk on here hated the PC brigade policing what folk can say incase it offends someone, turns out you're just the same as them let me ask you this bgd....if your family...mum, dad, brothers, sisters, kids......where on a bus, and a terrorist detonated a bomb on it, and it killed all of your family members, would you explain it to your friends as a tragedy.....or....it was a terrorist attack that killed them? also....what would the headlines be on the news for it.....would the headlines be.....a terrorist bomb attack on a bus kills all passengers? or, a bomb blew a bus up today killing all the passengers, it's a tragedy? it would be a tragedy if the bus driver had a heart attack and crashed the bus, killing everyone on board.....but i don't think you can call an organised bombing to purposely kill a load of people a tragedy? Why can't it be both a terrorist attack (or coordinated suicide bomb attack) AND a tragedy? That's probably how I'd describe and think of it if it effected me personally... terrorist attack....yes, suicide bomb attack....yes, tragedy.....NO, a tragedy, is when you all hold hands in sadness because it something out of your control has caused the death of your loved ones, terrorist attacks, are caused to kill someone, ie...murder, a murder of anyone, is not a tragedy...so it can't be both, how far would you take the word.....tragedy, under the definition, take Ian Brady and Myra Hindley.......did they kill all them kids, making it a tragedy....or was it terrorism they suffered? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 A wall falling on someone is a tragedy. A boat sinking and people drowning is a tragedy. Bombs planted by scum in a major city is a terrorist attack. What else would you expect from a terrorist sympathiser? Exacly where I'm coming from & Thats how the man in the street would talk not Affraid of upsetting Muslims or being called racist for stating the facts . He called them "coordinated suicide bomb attacks" what's the difference between that and "terrorist attack"? Is "terrorist attack carried out by Muslim extremists" the only way we're allowed to refer to the 7/7 bombings whenever they're mentioned? It's a bit of a mouthful and doesn't scan too well for speeches but if the words offend your poor sensitve souls I guess we'll just have to get used to it And I thought folk on here hated the PC brigade policing what folk can say incase it offends someone, turns out you're just the same as them let me ask you this bgd....if your family...mum, dad, brothers, sisters, kids......where on a bus, and a terrorist detonated a bomb on it, and it killed all of your family members, would you explain it to your friends as a tragedy.....or....it was a terrorist attack that killed them? also....what would the headlines be on the news for it.....would the headlines be.....a terrorist bomb attack on a bus kills all passengers? or, a bomb blew a bus up today killing all the passengers, it's a tragedy? it would be a tragedy if the bus driver had a heart attack and crashed the bus, killing everyone on board.....but i don't think you can call an organised bombing to purposely kill a load of people a tragedy? Why can't it be both a terrorist attack (or coordinated suicide bomb attack) AND a tragedy? That's probably how I'd describe and think of it if it effected me personally... terrorist attack....yes, suicide bomb attack....yes, tragedy.....NO, a tragedy, is when you all hold hands in sadness because it something out of your control has caused the death of your loved ones, terrorist attacks, are caused to kill someone, ie...murder, a murder of anyone, is not a tragedy...so it can't be both, how far would you take the word.....tragedy, under the definition, take Ian Brady and Myra Hindley.......did they kill all them kids, making it a tragedy....or was it terrorism they suffered? It was a tragedy so many were killed in the terrorist attacks on 7/7. You're honestly offended by the above statement? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted July 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 A crime as heinous as that should be remembered even if it was 100 years ago. No-one's saying live in fear of those dogs, but the dead deserve to be remembered. And just because there hasn't been a comparable attack on British soil since, doesn't mean there won't be. No one is saying it shouldn't be remembered, there was a really nice service at the memorial in Hyde Park earlier today just like there is every year. Apparently that isn't enough for some though? I guess they want a national day of mourning or something. Maybe not a National day but a little mention in the National papers like the Sun on the anniversary is not much to ask for......................or a mention on the national radio stations Was it even mentioned on the likes of newsnight or Sky i didn't see any mention of it No mention on The Sun's website but who cares about that rag anyway? It was in other national papers though and the memorial service was mentioned on Sky and BBC TV news, saw it myself. You're complaing about the media not paying any attention to it when you've clearly not even looked to see if they mentioned it. Why do some people feel the need to make up things to get offended over So nothing in the biggest selling newspaper the Sun Nothing on radio stations No mention on Itv news at ten or newsnight So your wrong I did look Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 A crime as heinous as that should be remembered even if it was 100 years ago. No-one's saying live in fear of those dogs, but the dead deserve to be remembered. And just because there hasn't been a comparable attack on British soil since, doesn't mean there won't be. No one is saying it shouldn't be remembered, there was a really nice service at the memorial in Hyde Park earlier today just like there is every year. Apparently that isn't enough for some though? I guess they want a national day of mourning or something. Maybe not a National day but a little mention in the National papers like the Sun on the anniversary is not much to ask for......................or a mention on the national radio stations Was it even mentioned on the likes of newsnight or Sky i didn't see any mention of it No mention on The Sun's website but who cares about that rag anyway? It was in other national papers though and the memorial service was mentioned on Sky and BBC TV news, saw it myself. You're complaing about the media not paying any attention to it when you've clearly not even looked to see if they mentioned it. Why do some people feel the need to make up things to get offended over So nothing in the biggest selling newspaper the Sun Nothing on radio stations No mention on Itv news at ten or newsnight So your wrong I did look I'm sure if The Sun thought it's readers wanted a story on the 7/7 anniversary they would have printed one, same goes for the radio stations and ITV news. Not sure why you'd expect it to be mentioned on Newsnight though, that's for indepth analysis and discussion of current affairs, a memorial for a terrorist attack that happened 11 years ago hardly fits the shows remit. You might have noticed there's been an awful lot going on in the news the past few weeks, rightly or wrongly the attacks that happened in London over a decade ago are pretty far from peoples minds right now. Do you get all up in arms when the anniversaries for other tragedies and terrorist attacks aren't given enough coverage in the press? I don't remember any threads about the lack of coverage the Lockerbie anniversary got in December or in April for the Omagh bombing anniversary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted July 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 im not getting up in arms just pointing out the fact that many media outlets made no mention of it.....After all it is the biggest loss of British lives by terrorism in the UK and only 11 years I dont know if Omagh or Lockerbie got a mention in the press 11 years after those events Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,838 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 A wall falling on someone is a tragedy. A boat sinking and people drowning is a tragedy. Bombs planted by scum in a major city is a terrorist attack. What else would you expect from a terrorist sympathiser? Exacly where I'm coming from & Thats how the man in the street would talk not Affraid of upsetting Muslims or being called racist for stating the facts . He called them "coordinated suicide bomb attacks" what's the difference between that and "terrorist attack"? Is "terrorist attack carried out by Muslim extremists" the only way we're allowed to refer to the 7/7 bombings whenever they're mentioned? It's a bit of a mouthful and doesn't scan too well for speeches but if the words offend your poor sensitve souls I guess we'll just have to get used to it And I thought folk on here hated the PC brigade policing what folk can say incase it offends someone, turns out you're just the same as them let me ask you this bgd....if your family...mum, dad, brothers, sisters, kids......where on a bus, and a terrorist detonated a bomb on it, and it killed all of your family members, would you explain it to your friends as a tragedy.....or....it was a terrorist attack that killed them? also....what would the headlines be on the news for it.....would the headlines be.....a terrorist bomb attack on a bus kills all passengers? or, a bomb blew a bus up today killing all the passengers, it's a tragedy? it would be a tragedy if the bus driver had a heart attack and crashed the bus, killing everyone on board.....but i don't think you can call an organised bombing to purposely kill a load of people a tragedy? Why can't it be both a terrorist attack (or coordinated suicide bomb attack) AND a tragedy? That's probably how I'd describe and think of it if it effected me personally... terrorist attack....yes, suicide bomb attack....yes, tragedy.....NO, a tragedy, is when you all hold hands in sadness because it something out of your control has caused the death of your loved ones, terrorist attacks, are caused to kill someone, ie...murder, a murder of anyone, is not a tragedy...so it can't be both, how far would you take the word.....tragedy, under the definition, take Ian Brady and Myra Hindley.......did they kill all them kids, making it a tragedy....or was it terrorism they suffered? It was a tragedy so many were killed in the terrorist attacks on 7/7. You're honestly offended by the above statement? i suppose i'm surprised at what you call a tragedy....and what so many of us call a tragedy......but i felt your down fall was when you actually quoted the word, tragedy, covering a broad spectrum, which lead me to...if you can put a mass murder down as a tragedy....this must mean you hold all deliberate murders a tragedy, because no murder is any different to each other, so that's why i said about Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, are they murdering terrorist....or, what they did, in your book, is a tragedy?also....baby p, was he terrorized and murdered, or was this a tragedy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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