waltjnr 6,896 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Gayest outfits ever! Like ballet,with a bull and sword ,not my cup of tea ,blokes dancing around in their mrs shoes ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 You know it's not something I've ever taken an interest in really but reading about all the culture etc around it in this thread has definitely got me interested... Might make it out there some time this year and see it for myself. Is there a season or do bullfights go on all year round? I'd recommend going with someone who knows what's happening..many parts look cruel without knowing why certain thing are happening.....and most bullfights are boring...we are all waiting for the perfect bull meeting the right matador for something great to happen. Sounds just like another sport I've got an interest in... Don't think I'd know anyone that knew what the craic was TBH, I could probably find a sort of guide over there though right? Or you could come with me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,844 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 You know it's not something I've ever taken an interest in really but reading about all the culture etc around it in this thread has definitely got me interested... Might make it out there some time this year and see it for myself. Is there a season or do bullfights go on all year round? I'd recommend going with someone who knows what's happening..many parts look cruel without knowing why certain thing are happening.....and most bullfights are boring...we are all waiting for the perfect bull meeting the right matador for something great to happen. Sounds just like another sport I've got an interest in... Don't think I'd know anyone that knew what the craic was TBH, I could probably find a sort of guide over there though right? Or you could come with me I'll be out there next year.... I'll put a few things into the post for you that you may find useful.....and I promise it won't be a letter bomb ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan 1,362 Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Gayest outfits ever! Like ballet,with a bull and sword ,not my cup of tea ,blokes dancing around in their mrs shoes ! That sums it up fairly well the whole madness of it. 500Kg+ of Bull that can destroy you and a man trying to make it all look artistic and dangerous. It's insane. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 You know it's not something I've ever taken an interest in really but reading about all the culture etc around it in this thread has definitely got me interested... Might make it out there some time this year and see it for myself. Is there a season or do bullfights go on all year round? I'd recommend going with someone who knows what's happening..many parts look cruel without knowing why certain thing are happening.....and most bullfights are boring...we are all waiting for the perfect bull meeting the right matador for something great to happen. Sounds just like another sport I've got an interest in... Don't think I'd know anyone that knew what the craic was TBH, I could probably find a sort of guide over there though right? Or you could come with me I'll be out there next year....I'll put a few things into the post for you that you may find useful.....and I promise it won't be a letter bomb ? No anthrax either you c**t Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,844 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I promise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan 1,362 Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Bull fighting is hardly the same as hunting, when the animal at least has a chance to get away, though I know the antis don't see it like that. It's very interesting, I'd agree with you that it has nothing in common with hunting but to all huge amount of people they'd see it just the same. It's number 3 on their list in that link and I'd imagine if people on here went down through the list some people would find things they'd ban or disagree with. You see it on here all the time, terriermen not agreeing with lamping fox with a rifle, rough shooters disgusted with trophy hunting. It's a funny old world. I was over in somerset with an Irish pack of beagles and we visited a Stag hound pack there, it was just before the ban and the Whip showing us around lectured us on the merits of Stag hunting and told us it was the best and purest form of hound hunting and the only one which could select the animal to be killed. Unlike all other hound hunting which killed indiscriminately. WTF???? I thought, we were all hunting guys, but no, under pressure everyone likes to stand apart. Stand above the rest, no, not me look at them. The guy was standing on the Titanic telling us he'd a better seat. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,743 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Unbelievable as it may seem in this mamby pamby world that we live in today, but I went to see a bull fight at the age of 12 on a school trip in the 1970s how mads that, regarding the morals of it, I always say if a man can sleep at night with a clear conscience then let him do as he wish,s, I've not lived a pure enough life to judge others 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,984 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I do hate and I mean hate seeing rifle lads with ten or so foxes all shot with night vision!! But not because I disagree with the way they do it, it's the numbers taken by some and the fact I'm not allowed to be there doing it with my lurchers haha 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Do the bulls know when it's "game on" or are they always aggressive towards all people? I imagine they're fecking hard to handle when not in the ring if they don't know the difference?The bulls are calm in a herd.At 2-3 years old the bulls are taken to a small ring out on the range. Here they face a lone man on a horse, if they charge they receive a pic in the large lump of muscle on there shoulders....once they break apart the door to the ring is thrown open so they can see the open range....they are then challenged again....some will choose the open range some will except combat....their number and destiny will be noted accordingly. Those which are marked down toro bravo go out to the range until they are five years old, living as wild as an animal can live. Will regard to the 'spears' people have such a problem with. These are bandarillas which have small barbs, they are placed in the massive hump of muscle on the neck, they arnt some big long dart and they don't weaken the bull only sober him. He comes into the ring charging wildly, the longer he is in there the more dangerous he becomes, he's learning the difference between the lure and the man with every second that passes. I would never watch a bullfight in Madrid. It's a cold public. Go to some smaller town fiesta. There is a massive group of UK aficionados who are the most knowledgeable in the world. Club taurino of London have regular meetings and invite the top matadors over to London. There is even a Manchester club who meet. If you want to learn more about the bulls then 'death in the afternoon ' by earnest hemingway is always a good book to start with. There are many UK based aficionado practicos who go to Spain and take an active role. Mainly visiting the bull ranches to test the female calves in teintas which look like mini bullfights and are a would-be bullfighters only chance to get infront of a live animal. It's amazing to watch the young female calves charge a horse at 12 months old! Death in the Afternoon is a 'must' read imo..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Trying to detach a country from such a deep cultural heritage should always be frowned upon imo..... .....let it roll, Spain will be no worse for it... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Not sure I could sit and watch a bull in a ring being stabbed to death . Animal cruelty at its best.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,844 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Not sure I could sit and watch a bull in a ring being stabbed to death . Animal cruelty at its best.. Don't think anyone is asking you to....only to accept that some people see it as much more than that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Aye only my opinion ..just how I see it.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Its not really my bag,although I would go and observe, so I could speak from experience so to speak, however it is their tradition and deeply embedded in their culture, so just because some do gooding tw*t objects does not mean they should stop it, as if they would anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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