Labour Are Falling Apart

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You never seem to see or hear of him meeting the business community large and small. Just appears to like to speak to his supporters, it's not these he needs to bring back to Labour, it's the many past Labour voters who have turned their back on Labour, and are voting for other parties.

He gave a speech to big bussiness leaders at the British Chamber of Commerce back in March and met with loads of big and small business owners up and down the country during the referendum campaign

He went to 20 cities didn't he? The cities are miles from me and are nothing like the valleys in any way. He should've been touring the villages because that's where the real problems lie imo.

No disagreement from me there pal, the villages and forgotten towns in the old industrial areas are exactly where he should be going and I'd want to see a lot more of that during a GE campaign

My area(Blaneau Gwent) is bottom of probably every list there is, it's really depressing here if I'm honest.

 

 

He actually visited there during the leadership election... and did exactly what you said he'd do earlier in the thread and went to the Bevan stones

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His speeches must be like watching paint dry how he comes across seems dull and boreing imo .

 

They're not that bad, you should watch one and then make up your mind. See if you can manage it without falling asleep

 

McDonnell is a much engaging public speaker though IMO. I'd prefer him as leader if I'm honest, Corbyn isn't perfect but if you want a return to real Labour values he's the last hope.

 

If you think Jeremy Corbyn is the last hope for Labour to return to their core values then it confirms two things a. labour is finished forever b. you dont have a clue what labours real values is/should be.

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His speeches must be like watching paint dry how he comes across seems dull and boreing imo .

 

They're not that bad, you should watch one and then make up your mind. See if you can manage it without falling asleep

 

McDonnell is a much engaging public speaker though IMO. I'd prefer him as leader if I'm honest, Corbyn isn't perfect but if you want a return to real Labour values he's the last hope.

 

If you think Jeremy Corbyn is the last hope for Labour to return to their core values then it confirms two things a. labour is finished forever b. you dont have a clue what labours real values is/should be.

 

 

Sounds like you could educate me. What are real Labour values to you then?

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His speeches must be like watching paint dry how he comes across seems dull and boreing imo .

 

They're not that bad, you should watch one and then make up your mind. See if you can manage it without falling asleep

 

McDonnell is a much engaging public speaker though IMO. I'd prefer him as leader if I'm honest, Corbyn isn't perfect but if you want a return to real Labour values he's the last hope.

 

If you think Jeremy Corbyn is the last hope for Labour to return to their core values then it confirms two things a. labour is finished forever b. you dont have a clue what labours real values is/should be.

 

 

Sounds like you could educate me. What are real Labour values to you then?

 

The clues in the name

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Its definately not oxbridge educated Emily Thornberry looking down her nose and poking fun at white van man living on a council estate. He just promoted her didnt he?

 

The thread titles wrong anyway, Labour has already fell apart. My Dad, an ex-miner would have at one time voted for an egg plant if Labour had put it up for election, now he wont vote labour ever again if ex-miners from the North arent voting labour, their finished. Killed off by champagne socialists career politicians and limp wristed faggots like yourself.

Edited June 30, 2016 by JDHUNTING

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His speeches must be like watching paint dry how he comes across seems dull and boreing imo .

 

They're not that bad, you should watch one and then make up your mind. See if you can manage it without falling asleep

 

McDonnell is a much engaging public speaker though IMO. I'd prefer him as leader if I'm honest, Corbyn isn't perfect but if you want a return to real Labour values he's the last hope.

 

If you think Jeremy Corbyn is the last hope for Labour to return to their core values then it confirms two things a. labour is finished forever b. you dont have a clue what labours real values is/should be.

 

 

Sounds like you could educate me. What are real Labour values to you then?

 

The clues in the name

 

 

Jeremy Corbyn, part of the labour movement his whole life and champion of trade unions and workers rights his whole career in parliament doesn't represent core Labour values? Who do you think in the Labour party more truly represents those values?

 

You think Blair was a better representative of the labour movement?

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His speeches must be like watching paint dry how he comes across seems dull and boreing imo .

 

They're not that bad, you should watch one and then make up your mind. See if you can manage it without falling asleep

 

McDonnell is a much engaging public speaker though IMO. I'd prefer him as leader if I'm honest, Corbyn isn't perfect but if you want a return to real Labour values he's the last hope.

 

I will give it a go lol.Always remember the speeches Scargill gave us when we were on strike now that man could rally and stir emotions from the podium despite what anybody thought of him.

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No certainly not, im 33 and left school in 1998 in all that time no labour mp ive seen represents the true values of labour, maybe John Smith would have but i didnt take note at the time and he karked it anyway. My Dads dad a miner was a labour activist, my dad a miner also would have voted for an egg plant if labour had put it up for election but not anymore thats why labour are finished, their voters blindly voted for labour which let the the champagne socialists, career politicians and degenerates take over the labour movement.People like you who love to jump on your high horse at the first chance, sold your country, heritage and countryman down the river so you could look like a "modern man" to the ladies or whatever your reasons banged the nails into the coffin.

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His speeches must be like watching paint dry how he comes across seems dull and boreing imo .

They're not that bad, you should watch one and then make up your mind. See if you can manage it without falling asleep

 

McDonnell is a much engaging public speaker though IMO. I'd prefer him as leader if I'm honest, Corbyn isn't perfect but if you want a return to real Labour values he's the last hope.

I will give it a go lol.Always remember the speeches Scargill gave us when we were on strike now that man could rally and stir emotions from the podium despite what anybody thought of him.

Aye love him or hate him the man could rally the troops, great public speaker Even Thatcher admitted it

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No certainly not, im 33 and left school in 1998 in all that time no labour mp ive seen represents the true values of labour, maybe John Smith would have but i didnt take note at the time and he karked it anyway. My Dads dad a miner was a labour activist, my dad a miner also would have voted for an egg plant if labour had put it up for election but not anymore thats why labour are finished, their voters blindly voted for labour which let the the champagne socialists, career politicians and degenerates take over the labour movement.People like you who love to jump on your high horse at the first chance, sold your country, heritage and countryman down the river so you could look like a "modern man" to the ladies or whatever your reasons banged the nails into the coffin.

Blair and his cronies drove many away from the party parachuting in Oxbridge educated elites to the Labour strongholds in the North people that were only interested in their careers and ignored their constituencies. I was one of them, spent a few years voting Labour as the least worst option before Blair drove me away from the party for good.

 

Corbyn and McDonnell are some of the last Old Labour MPs hanging on and them being in power is the only reason I and many others have come back to the party. Now we just need to deselect the Blairites and get real local candidates that will champion their constituencies in parliament to replace them, then we'll start seeing real change in the party.

Edited June 30, 2016 by BGD

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You never seem to see or hear of him meeting the business community large and small. Just appears to like to speak to his supporters, it's not these he needs to bring back to Labour, it's the many past Labour voters who have turned their back on Labour, and are voting for other parties.

He gave a speech to big bussiness leaders at the British Chamber of Commerce back in March and met with loads of big and small business owners up and down the country during the referendum campaign

He went to 20 cities didn't he? The cities are miles from me and are nothing like the valleys in any way. He should've been touring the villages because that's where the real problems lie imo.

No disagreement from me there pal, the villages and forgotten towns in the old industrial areas are exactly where he should be going and I'd want to see a lot more of that during a GE campaign

My area(Blaneau Gwent) is bottom of probably every list there is, it's really depressing here if I'm honest.

He actually visited there during the leadership election... and did exactly what you said he'd do earlier in the thread and went to the Bevan stones

Them bloody stones lol.

I'm not up on politics like you but our MP as resigned from Corbyns front bench, so there's obviously a rift there will this have any effect on my area?

 

Excuse my naivety.

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If Corbyn has some bearing on Blair ending up in a court room facing war crimes he gets my vote and is better left where he is.

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You never seem to see or hear of him meeting the business community large and small. Just appears to like to speak to his supporters, it's not these he needs to bring back to Labour, it's the many past Labour voters who have turned their back on Labour, and are voting for other parties.

He gave a speech to big bussiness leaders at the British Chamber of Commerce back in March and met with loads of big and small business owners up and down the country during the referendum campaign

He went to 20 cities didn't he? The cities are miles from me and are nothing like the valleys in any way. He should've been touring the villages because that's where the real problems lie imo.

No disagreement from me there pal, the villages and forgotten towns in the old industrial areas are exactly where he should be going and I'd want to see a lot more of that during a GE campaign

My area(Blaneau Gwent) is bottom of probably every list there is, it's really depressing here if I'm honest.

He actually visited there during the leadership election... and did exactly what you said he'd do earlier in the thread and went to the Bevan stones

Them bloody stones lol.

I'm not up on politics like you but our MP as resigned from Corbyns front bench, so there's obviously a rift there will this have any effect on my area?

 

Excuse my naivety.

 

 

I'm not sure where your Constituency Labour Party stands on Corbyn (I'm a typical elite lefty ignoring your area obviously ) but he could well be facing deselection before the next election and then you'd have someone else as the official Labour candidate standing to be your MP.

Edited June 30, 2016 by BGD

[johnny boy68 11,726]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You never seem to see or hear of him meeting the business community large and small. Just appears to like to speak to his supporters, it's not these he needs to bring back to Labour, it's the many past Labour voters who have turned their back on Labour, and are voting for other parties.

He gave a speech to big bussiness leaders at the British Chamber of Commerce back in March and met with loads of big and small business owners up and down the country during the referendum campaign

He went to 20 cities didn't he? The cities are miles from me and are nothing like the valleys in any way. He should've been touring the villages because that's where the real problems lie imo.

No disagreement from me there pal, the villages and forgotten towns in the old industrial areas are exactly where he should be going and I'd want to see a lot more of that during a GE campaign

My area(Blaneau Gwent) is bottom of probably every list there is, it's really depressing here if I'm honest.

He actually visited there during the leadership election... and did exactly what you said he'd do earlier in the thread and went to the Bevan stones

Them bloody stones lol.

I'm not up on politics like you but our MP as resigned from Corbyns front bench, so there's obviously a rift there will this have any effect on my area?

 

Excuse my naivety.

I'm not sure where your Constituency Labour Party stands on Corbyn (I'm a typical elite lefty ignoring your area obviously ) but he could well be facing deselection before the next election and then you'd have someone else as the official Labour candidate standing to be your MP.

Good riddance I say he was a classic example of a donkey with a labour rosette on lol. One thing I've noticed in my area with the referendum is that people are interested in politics again, hopefully they'll take a bit more interest and start to hold these MP's responsible for the shit tip that we live in and change it.

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Good old Dennis Skinner there is a bedrock foundation Labour man call a spade a spade or a Dodgy Dave