BGD 6,436 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) When the Chilcot report comes out Tony Blair and Jack Straw will be denounced as war criminals in the HoC by the leader of their own party they can wrap it how they want, we know what he is,, along with being a traitor as is Gordon brown Agreed, and Corbyn and McDonnell are the only prominent figures that will push for them to actually face charges if at all applicable Sure it's probably a pipe dream but the thought of that grinning c**t Blair sweating in the dock is a nice one... There's a reason they were so desperate to get him gone at all costs before Chilcot drops Edited June 29, 2016 by BGD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,740 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 When the Chilcot report comes out Tony Blair and Jack Straw will be denounced as war criminals in the HoC by the leader of their own party they can wrap it how they want, we know what he is,, along with being a traitor as is Gordon brownAgreed, and Corbyn and McDonnell are the only prominent figures that will push for them to actually face charges if at all applicable Sure it's probably a pipe dream but the thought of that grinning c**t Blair sweating in the dock is a nice one...That I can agree with 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 When the Chilcot report comes out Tony Blair and Jack Straw will be denounced as war criminals in the HoC by the leader of their own party they can wrap it how they want, we know what he is,, along with being a traitor as is Gordon brownAgreed, and Corbyn and McDonnell are the only prominent figures that will push for them to actually face charges if at all applicable Sure it's probably a pipe dream but the thought of that grinning c**t Blair sweating in the dock is a nice one... There's a reason they were so desperate to get him gone at all costs before Chilcot drops What would happen with Bush, would he have to face war crime charges too? Or do they do it different over there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 When the Chilcot report comes out Tony Blair and Jack Straw will be denounced as war criminals in the HoC by the leader of their own party they can wrap it how they want, we know what he is,, along with being a traitor as is Gordon brownAgreed, and Corbyn and McDonnell are the only prominent figures that will push for them to actually face charges if at all applicable Sure it's probably a pipe dream but the thought of that grinning c**t Blair sweating in the dock is a nice one... There's a reason they were so desperate to get him gone at all costs before Chilcot drops What would happen with Bush, would he have to face war crime charges too? Or do they do it different over there? He'd have to be charged separately and not even I'm enough of a delusional lefty to think that would ever be a possibility 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 No they don't I know loads of ex Durham miners Voteing Ukip If they voted labour and followed Corbyn why did Co Durham and Sunderland overwhelmingly vote to Leave the EU ? I never said every miner in Durham voted Labour that woul be silly. All I said was was the Durham Miners Association supports Corbyn because well, they do. I voted Leave, does that mean I'm just pretending to be a Corbyn supporter? The referendum wasn't a party politcal issue pal... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 No they don't I know loads of ex Durham miners Voteing Ukip If they voted labour and followed Corbyn why did Co Durham and Sunderland overwhelmingly vote to Leave the EU ? I never said every miner in Durham voted Labour that woul be silly. All I said was was the Durham Miners Association supports Corbyn because well, they do. I voted Leave, does that mean I'm just pretending to be a Corbyn supporter? The referendum wasn't a party politcal issue pal... The leader of the Durham MA supports Corbyn, they have a meeting tonight, so not speaking for anybody but himself what I can gather. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 No they don't I know loads of ex Durham miners Voteing Ukip If they voted labour and followed Corbyn why did Co Durham and Sunderland overwhelmingly vote to Leave the EU ? I never said every miner in Durham voted Labour that woul be silly. All I said was was the Durham Miners Association supports Corbyn because well, they do. I voted Leave, does that mean I'm just pretending to be a Corbyn supporter? The referendum wasn't a party politcal issue pal... The leader of the Durham MA supports Corbyn, they have a meeting tonight, so not speaking for anybody but himself what I can gather. The statement put out was on behalf of the DMA not just the personal views of the General Secretary but you're right obviously the "Defend Corbyn" meeting will give us a better idea of what the majority of the membership think of him now. They've even banned MPs that supported the coup attempt from going to their Gala http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/14587812.Anti_Corbyn___39_traitors__39__not_welcome_at_Durham_Miners__39__Gala/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Country Joe 1,411 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 You never seem to see or hear of him meeting the business community large and small. Just appears to like to speak to his supporters, it's not these he needs to bring back to Labour, it's the many past Labour voters who have turned their back on Labour, and are voting for other parties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 You never seem to see or hear of him meeting the business community large and small. Just appears to like to speak to his supporters, it's not these he needs to bring back to Labour, it's the many past Labour voters who have turned their back on Labour, and are voting for other parties. He gave a speech to big bussiness leaders at the British Chamber of Commerce back in March and met with loads of big and small business owners up and down the country during the referendum campaign Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 The perception is that he has lost touch with the ordinary Labour voter. He claims the mandate of grass roots members (400,000 or so ?), but the MPs are claiming the mandate of the 9 million people who voted Labour at the last general election. If the new PM calls a quick election (and I sincerely hope they don't ), Labour could be in trouble, even in their traditional strongholds. I can see Labour losing seats wholesale, and UKIP becoming the opposition...... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 You never seem to see or hear of him meeting the business community large and small. Just appears to like to speak to his supporters, it's not these he needs to bring back to Labour, it's the many past Labour voters who have turned their back on Labour, and are voting for other parties. He gave a speech to big bussiness leaders at the British Chamber of Commerce back in March and met with loads of big and small business owners up and down the country during the referendum campaign He went to 20 cities didn't he? The cities are miles from me and are nothing like the valleys in any way. He should've been touring the villages because that's where the real problems lie imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 You never seem to see or hear of him meeting the business community large and small. Just appears to like to speak to his supporters, it's not these he needs to bring back to Labour, it's the many past Labour voters who have turned their back on Labour, and are voting for other parties. He gave a speech to big bussiness leaders at the British Chamber of Commerce back in March and met with loads of big and small business owners up and down the country during the referendum campaign He went to 20 cities didn't he? The cities are miles from me and are nothing like the valleys in any way. He should've been touring the villages because that's where the real problems lie imo. No disagreement from me there pal, the villages and forgotten towns in the old industrial areas are exactly where he should be going and I'd want to see a lot more of that during a GE campaign Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,281 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 His speeches must be like watching paint dry how he comes across seems dull and boreing imo . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 His speeches must be like watching paint dry how he comes across seems dull and boreing imo . They're not that bad, you should watch one and then make up your mind. See if you can manage it without falling asleep McDonnell is a much engaging public speaker though IMO. I'd prefer him as leader if I'm honest, Corbyn isn't perfect but if you want a return to real Labour values he's the last hope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 You never seem to see or hear of him meeting the business community large and small. Just appears to like to speak to his supporters, it's not these he needs to bring back to Labour, it's the many past Labour voters who have turned their back on Labour, and are voting for other parties. He gave a speech to big bussiness leaders at the British Chamber of Commerce back in March and met with loads of big and small business owners up and down the country during the referendum campaign He went to 20 cities didn't he? The cities are miles from me and are nothing like the valleys in any way. He should've been touring the villages because that's where the real problems lie imo. No disagreement from me there pal, the villages and forgotten towns in the old industrial areas are exactly where he should be going and I'd want to see a lot more of that during a GE campaign My area(Blaneau Gwent) is bottom of probably every list there is, it's really depressing here if I'm honest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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