Fieldsporthunter 1,864 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Thanks England and Wales for voting to leave the eu ????. Iam now considering move to England if jimmy krankie the first minster gets a second referendum to leave uk . I must say well done lads and lasses for voting out and hope now we can get sensible hunting laws !!!Another immigrant . . . lol just kidding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 God bless the welsh,i Dont think the EU can afford Scotland now and they said out is out,same for Ireland don't think they can afford ulster ulster is going nowhere mate, our vote was split, a hundred thousand vote difference really, and a border poll here will not be successful Ireland already has 1/3 of Ulster and gets on just fine, has a robust economy and will benefit again from a Brexit. I'm not sure the UK can afford to support 6 counties as a separate country without the EU funding that has been pouring into the region since the good Friday agreement. The Brexit was a great result for Nationalists, in Ireland. At the time of the Good Friday Agreement Ian paisley demanded that the Irish concede sovereignty to 6 counties. It was taken out straight away and nobody batted an eyelid, I would go as far to say the Irish government thought they got away lightly away with that one and signed it off no bother.Whenever mcguinness mentions a border poll you never hear any politicians from the Republic agreeing with him. The Republic is tight financially and would baulk at the benefits bill the north would bring never mind the crime gangs from eastern Europe/Russia and a few hundred thousand loyalists who would feel betrayed. If there is ever a fully United Ireland it won't be this century. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan 1,362 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 God bless the welsh,i Dont think the EU can afford Scotland now and they said out is out,same for Ireland don't think they can afford ulsterulster is going nowhere mate, our vote was split, a hundred thousand vote difference really, and a border poll here will not be successful Ireland already has 1/3 of Ulster and gets on just fine, has a robust economy and will benefit again from a Brexit. I'm not sure the UK can afford to support 6 counties as a separate country without the EU funding that has been pouring into the region since the good Friday agreement. The Brexit was a great result for Nationalists, in Ireland. At the time of the Good Friday Agreement Ian paisley demanded that the Irish concede sovereignty to 6 counties. It was taken out straight away and nobody batted an eyelid, I would go as far to say the Irish government thought they got away lightly away with that one and signed it off no bother.Whenever mcguinness mentions a border poll you never hear any politicians from the Republic agreeing with him. The Republic is tight financially and would baulk at the benefits bill the north would bring never mind the crime gangs from eastern Europe/Russia and a few hundred thousand loyalists who would feel betrayed. If there is ever a fully United Ireland it won't be this century. People didn't bat an eyelid because they realised Paisley going into government with Republicans was a big concession on his part and that the agreement lays out a pathway for a United Island without input from anyone outside Ireland. So it's only a matter of time. "Stepping Stone" We are patient people. From the agreement, the section on constitutional agreements that the loyalist agreed to ") acknowledge that while a substantial section of the people in Northern Ireland share the legitimate wish of a majority of the people of the island of Ireland for a united Ireland, the present wish of a majority of the people of Northern Ireland, freely exercised and legitimate, is to maintain the Union and, accordingly, that Northern Ireland’s status as part of the United Kingdom reflects and relies upon that wish; and that it would be wrong to make any change in the status of Northern Ireland save with the consent of a majority of its people; (iv) affirm that if, in the future, the people of the island of Ireland exercise their right of self-determination on the basis set out in sections (i) and (ii) above to bring about a united Ireland, it will be a binding obligation on both Governments to introduce and support in their respective Parliaments legislation to give effect to that wish; " Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,819 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 God bless the welsh,i Dont think the EU can afford Scotland now and they said out is out,same for Ireland don't think they can afford ulster ulster is going nowhere mate, our vote was split, a hundred thousand vote difference really, and a border poll here will not be successful Ireland already has 1/3 of Ulster and gets on just fine, has a robust economy and will benefit again from a Brexit. I'm not sure the UK can afford to support 6 counties as a separate country without the EU funding that has been pouring into the region since the good Friday agreement. The Brexit was a great result for Nationalists, in Ireland. At the time of the Good Friday Agreement Ian paisley demanded that the Irish concede sovereignty to 6 counties. It was taken out straight away and nobody batted an eyelid, I would go as far to say the Irish government thought they got away lightly away with that one and signed it off no bother.Whenever mcguinness mentions a border poll you never hear any politicians from the Republic agreeing with him. The Republic is tight financially and would baulk at the benefits bill the north would bring never mind the crime gangs from eastern Europe/Russia and a few hundred thousand loyalists who would feel betrayed. If there is ever a fully United Ireland it won't be this century. People didn't bat an eyelid because they realised Paisley going into government with Republicans was a big concession on his part and that the agreement lays out a pathway for a United Island without input from anyone outside Ireland. So it's only a matter of time. "Stepping Stone" We are patient people. From the agreement, the section on constitutional agreements that the loyalist agreed to ") acknowledge that while a substantial section of the people in Northern Ireland share the legitimate wish of a majority of the people of the island of Ireland for a united Ireland, the present wish of a majority of the people of Northern Ireland, freely exercised and legitimate, is to maintain the Union and, accordingly, that Northern Ireland’s status as part of the United Kingdom reflects and relies upon that wish; and that it would be wrong to make any change in the status of Northern Ireland save with the consent of a majority of its people; (iv) affirm that if, in the future, the people of the island of Ireland exercise their right of self-determination on the basis set out in sections (i) and (ii) above to bring about a united Ireland, it will be a binding obligation on both Governments to introduce and support in their respective Parliaments legislation to give effect to that wish; " still not going to happen as not just Protestants here want to stay in the uk, lots of Catholics friends and family want to stay in the uk also, Northern Ireland is a melting pot of scotch Irish with splashes of English n Welsh, NI is doing fine these days as it is, but some republicans arnt happy until they get a united Ireland's , so I say have the border poll but get the republicans to agree that if lost they must leave, same goes for Scotland's ref2 and the snp 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottish lurcher 185 Posted June 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 2.6 million Scottish voters. Approx 60% to stay 40% to leave. So that's approx 1.4 million out of a total of 33 million votes. Sturgeon is a idiot and her only objective is divide and rule. for some reason she doesn't want to deal with the English goverment yet wants to deal with the eu and use the euro just mental lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 God bless the welsh,i Dont think the EU can afford Scotland now and they said out is out,same for Ireland don't think they can afford ulsterulster is going nowhere mate, our vote was split, a hundred thousand vote difference really, and a border poll here will not be successful Ireland already has 1/3 of Ulster and gets on just fine, has a robust economy and will benefit again from a Brexit. I'm not sure the UK can afford to support 6 counties as a separate country without the EU funding that has been pouring into the region since the good Friday agreement. The Brexit was a great result for Nationalists, in Ireland. At the time of the Good Friday Agreement Ian paisley demanded that the Irish concede sovereignty to 6 counties. It was taken out straight away and nobody batted an eyelid, I would go as far to say the Irish government thought they got away lightly away with that one and signed it off no bother.Whenever mcguinness mentions a border poll you never hear any politicians from the Republic agreeing with him. The Republic is tight financially and would baulk at the benefits bill the north would bring never mind the crime gangs from eastern Europe/Russia and a few hundred thousand loyalists who would feel betrayed. If there is ever a fully United Ireland it won't be this century. People didn't bat an eyelid because they realised Paisley going into government with Republicans was a big concession on his part and that the agreement lays out a pathway for a United Island without input from anyone outside Ireland. So it's only a matter of time. "Stepping Stone" We are patient people. From the agreement, the section on constitutional agreements that the loyalist agreed to ") acknowledge that while a substantial section of the people in Northern Ireland share the legitimate wish of a majority of the people of the island of Ireland for a united Ireland, the present wish of a majority of the people of Northern Ireland, freely exercised and legitimate, is to maintain the Union and, accordingly, that Northern Ireland’s status as part of the United Kingdom reflects and relies upon that wish; and that it would be wrong to make any change in the status of Northern Ireland save with the consent of a majority of its people; (iv) affirm that if, in the future, the people of the island of Ireland exercise their right of self-determination on the basis set out in sections (i) and (ii) above to bring about a united Ireland, it will be a binding obligation on both Governments to introduce and support in their respective Parliaments legislation to give effect to that wish; " still not going to happen as not just Protestants here want to stay in the uk, lots of Catholics friends and family want to stay in the uk also, Northern Ireland is a melting pot of scotch Irish with splashes of English n Welsh, NI is doing fine these days as it is, but some republicans arnt happy until they get a united Ireland's , so I say have the border poll but get the republicans to agree that if lost they must leave, same goes for Scotland's ref2 and the snp A lot of people down south don't want a united Ireland because it would cost to much. People have just begun to get some economic normality and they don't want to be taxed any more than they are now. Last year BBC and Rte did a poll together on both sides of the border which showed that roughly the same percentage didn't want a united Ireland but not under the current conditions. The amount of people on benefits in the north would raise a few eyebrows for the government down south and likewise people up the north would see them getting charged for things like water, £50 a time to bring your kids to he doctor, non NHS dentists and paying through the nose for prescriptions. Car tax and insurance would skyrocket to say the least. These are just a few things that spring to mind. Maybe there will be a united Ireland but not with the current economic situation for both economies. The UK props up northern Ireland and while it is improving economically it's still.not viable enough for the Republic to take on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,639 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Yesterday Jimmy crankie said a second Scottish referendum was "highly likely " today its moved down to a "option on the table " . From my understanding she would only have 2 years to get a referendum and polls have shown she doesn't have the support for it and it would be highly likely that it wouldent be successful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan 1,362 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) God bless the welsh,i Dont think the EU can afford Scotland now and they said out is out,same for Ireland don't think they can afford ulsterulster is going nowhere mate, our vote was split, a hundred thousand vote difference really, and a border poll here will not be successful Ireland already has 1/3 of Ulster and gets on just fine, has a robust economy and will benefit again from a Brexit. I'm not sure the UK can afford to support 6 counties as a separate country without the EU funding that has been pouring into the region since the good Friday agreement. The Brexit was a great result for Nationalists, in Ireland. At the time of the Good Friday Agreement Ian paisley demanded that the Irish concede sovereignty to 6 counties. It was taken out straight away and nobody batted an eyelid, I would go as far to say the Irish government thought they got away lightly away with that one and signed it off no bother.Whenever mcguinness mentions a border poll you never hear any politicians from the Republic agreeing with him. The Republic is tight financially and would baulk at the benefits bill the north would bring never mind the crime gangs from eastern Europe/Russia and a few hundred thousand loyalists who would feel betrayed. If there is ever a fully United Ireland it won't be this century. People didn't bat an eyelid because they realised Paisley going into government with Republicans was a big concession on his part and that the agreement lays out a pathway for a United Island without input from anyone outside Ireland. So it's only a matter of time. "Stepping Stone" We are patient people. From the agreement, the section on constitutional agreements that the loyalist agreed to ") acknowledge that while a substantial section of the people in Northern Ireland share the legitimate wish of a majority of the people of the island of Ireland for a united Ireland, the present wish of a majority of the people of Northern Ireland, freely exercised and legitimate, is to maintain the Union and, accordingly, that Northern Ireland’s status as part of the United Kingdom reflects and relies upon that wish; and that it would be wrong to make any change in the status of Northern Ireland save with the consent of a majority of its people; (iv) affirm that if, in the future, the people of the island of Ireland exercise their right of self-determination on the basis set out in sections (i) and (ii) above to bring about a united Ireland, it will be a binding obligation on both Governments to introduce and support in their respective Parliaments legislation to give effect to that wish; " still not going to happen as not just Protestants here want to stay in the uk, lots of Catholics friends and family want to stay in the uk also, Northern Ireland is a melting pot of scotch Irish with splashes of English n Welsh, NI is doing fine these days as it is, but some republicans arnt happy until they get a united Ireland's , so I say have the border poll but get the republicans to agree that if lost they must leave, same goes for Scotland's ref2 and the snp A lot of people down south don't want a united Ireland because it would cost to much. People have just begun to get some economic normality and they don't want to be taxed any more than they are now. Last year BBC and Rte did a poll together on both sides of the border which showed that roughly the same percentage didn't want a united Ireland but not under the current conditions. The amount of people on benefits in the north would raise a few eyebrows for the government down south and likewise people up the north would see them getting charged for things like water, £50 a time to bring your kids to he doctor, non NHS dentists and paying through the nose for prescriptions. Car tax and insurance would skyrocket to say the least. These are just a few things that spring to mind. Maybe there will be a united Ireland but not with the current economic situation for both economies. The UK props up northern Ireland and while it is improving economically it's still.not viable enough for the Republic to take on. I hear you, but the North was getting ton of money from EU, £100's of millions, funding for MEP's their staff and all sorts of community programs, tourism and development. All thats gone now. London's big benefit was as an English speaking financial centre within Europe, that and the money it generated is gone now. Water is free again across the new old border, kids under 6 free at the doctor, we will sort out the rest of your demands ASAP Edited June 25, 2016 by Bryan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,819 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 God bless the welsh,i Dont think the EU can afford Scotland now and they said out is out,same for Ireland don't think they can afford ulster ulster is going nowhere mate, our vote was split, a hundred thousand vote difference really, and a border poll here will not be successful Ireland already has 1/3 of Ulster and gets on just fine, has a robust economy and will benefit again from a Brexit. I'm not sure the UK can afford to support 6 counties as a separate country without the EU funding that has been pouring into the region since the good Friday agreement. The Brexit was a great result for Nationalists, in Ireland. At the time of the Good Friday Agreement Ian paisley demanded that the Irish concede sovereignty to 6 counties. It was taken out straight away and nobody batted an eyelid, I would go as far to say the Irish government thought they got away lightly away with that one and signed it off no bother.Whenever mcguinness mentions a border poll you never hear any politicians from the Republic agreeing with him. The Republic is tight financially and would baulk at the benefits bill the north would bring never mind the crime gangs from eastern Europe/Russia and a few hundred thousand loyalists who would feel betrayed. If there is ever a fully United Ireland it won't be this century. People didn't bat an eyelid because they realised Paisley going into government with Republicans was a big concession on his part and that the agreement lays out a pathway for a United Island without input from anyone outside Ireland. So it's only a matter of time. "Stepping Stone" We are patient people. From the agreement, the section on constitutional agreements that the loyalist agreed to ") acknowledge that while a substantial section of the people in Northern Ireland share the legitimate wish of a majority of the people of the island of Ireland for a united Ireland, the present wish of a majority of the people of Northern Ireland, freely exercised and legitimate, is to maintain the Union and, accordingly, that Northern Ireland’s status as part of the United Kingdom reflects and relies upon that wish; and that it would be wrong to make any change in the status of Northern Ireland save with the consent of a majority of its people; (iv) affirm that if, in the future, the people of the island of Ireland exercise their right of self-determination on the basis set out in sections (i) and (ii) above to bring about a united Ireland, it will be a binding obligation on both Governments to introduce and support in their respective Parliaments legislation to give effect to that wish; " still not going to happen as not just Protestants here want to stay in the uk, lots of Catholics friends and family want to stay in the uk also, Northern Ireland is a melting pot of scotch Irish with splashes of English n Welsh, NI is doing fine these days as it is, but some republicans arnt happy until they get a united Ireland's , so I say have the border poll but get the republicans to agree that if lost they must leave, same goes for Scotland's ref2 and the snp A lot of people down south don't want a united Ireland because it would cost to much. People have just begun to get some economic normality and they don't want to be taxed any more than they are now. Last year BBC and Rte did a poll together on both sides of the border which showed that roughly the same percentage didn't want a united Ireland but not under the current conditions. The amount of people on benefits in the north would raise a few eyebrows for the government down south and likewise people up the north would see them getting charged for things like water, £50 a time to bring your kids to he doctor, non NHS dentists and paying through the nose for prescriptions. Car tax and insurance would skyrocket to say the least. These are just a few things that spring to mind. Maybe there will be a united Ireland but not with the current economic situation for both economies. The UK props up northern Ireland and while it is improving economically it's still.not viable enough for the Republic to take on. I hear you, but the North was getting ton of money from EU, £100's of millions, funding for MEP's their staff and all sorts of community programs, tourism and development. All thats gone now. London's big benefit was as an English speaking financial centre within Europe, that and the money it generated is gone now. Water is free again across the new old border, kids under 6 free at the doctor, we will sort out the rest of your demands ASAP your living in a 1970s bubble Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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