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Struggling like mad to find one,don't think it will happen as we need some pretty thick gauge nails to secure timbering for deep excavations goin ok 3m plus ,and the most Iv seem for is 15 gauge.

Club hammer it remains then!!

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I worked at a pallet compound and we used the compressed air guns, they make them plaslode guns look like an air rifle lol. They would put 6 inch nails in piss easy, hit a knot and them nails would shot off in any direction.

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closest I've found to what you want, years ago I had one that would fire 3" nails into concrete if the nails were hard enough to take it, the company used to import guns that would fire 6" nails into oak, just can`t for the life of me remember the name of the company

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Struggling like mad to find one,don't think it will happen as we need some pretty thick gauge nails to secure timbering for deep excavations goin ok 3m plus ,and the most Iv seem for is 15 gauge.

Club hammer it remains then!!

Can't you use screws? Time an issue??

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Struggling like mad to find one,don't think it will happen as we need some pretty thick gauge nails to secure timbering for deep excavations goin ok 3m plus ,and the most Iv seem for is 15 gauge.

Club hammer it remains then!!

Can't you use screws? Time an issue??

No screws for some reason,possibly could work themselves lose after a few days of ground movement,God knows.the company has set procedures and 6 inch nails it is.Time not the issue its the fact that trying to hammer in nails with all sorts of cables and water mains in the way makes for a right laugh while tryin to balance 3m lengths of wood

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Struggling like mad to find one,don't think it will happen as we need some pretty thick gauge nails to secure timbering for deep excavations goin ok 3m plus ,and the most Iv seem for is 15 gauge.

Club hammer it remains then!!

Can't you use screws? Time an issue??
No screws for some reason,possibly could work themselves lose after a few days of ground movement,God knows.the company has set procedures and 6 inch nails it is.Time not the issue its the fact that trying to hammer in nails with all sorts of cables and water mains in the way makes for a right laugh while tryin to balance 3m lengths of wood

So basically some fanny in a suit has said a screw will work its way out before a nail. Architects eh..???

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closest I've found to what you want, years ago I had one that would fire 3" nails into concrete if the nails were hard enough to take it, the company used to import guns that would fire 6" nails into oak, just can`t for the life of me remember the name of the company

That looks the kiddie,I'll have to check to make sure our gauge of nail fits and hopefully it's the one!

only downside is if get one I'll miss out on watching the new apprentices bend nail after nail over after about 3 miss hits!

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Struggling like mad to find one,don't think it will happen as we need some pretty thick gauge nails to secure timbering for deep excavations goin ok 3m plus ,and the most Iv seem for is 15 gauge.

Club hammer it remains then!!

Can't you use screws? Time an issue??

No screws for some reason,possibly could work themselves lose after a few days of ground movement,God knows.the company has set procedures and 6 inch nails it is.Time not the issue its the fact that trying to hammer in nails with all sorts of cables and water mains in the way makes for a right laugh while tryin to balance 3m lengths of wood

 

i know you have to follow what you have been told, in using nails......but using screws is far stronger than using nails....a screw would never work themselves loose from ground movement....someones talking out of there backside.... :yes: if they are that worried, why don't they use acro's

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Struggling like mad to find one,don't think it will happen as we need some pretty thick gauge nails to secure timbering for deep excavations goin ok 3m plus ,and the most Iv seem for is 15 gauge.

Club hammer it remains then!!

Can't you use screws? Time an issue??
No screws for some reason,possibly could work themselves lose after a few days of ground movement,God knows.the company has set procedures and 6 inch nails it is.Time not the issue its the fact that trying to hammer in nails with all sorts of cables and water mains in the way makes for a right laugh while tryin to balance 3m lengths of wood

i know you have to follow what you have been told, in using nails......but using screws is far stronger than using nails....a screw would never work themselves loose from ground movement....someones talking out of there backside.... :yes: if they are that worried, why don't they use acro's
We acro up to push out but after the walings are in the hole,and nailed into wooden corners in each side of the hole.the firm is audit mad and they check most deep exes to make sure there fixed aswell as acro being used.

The joys of working for an American company who change there rules every 6 months!

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Struggling like mad to find one,don't think it will happen as we need some pretty thick gauge nails to secure timbering for deep excavations goin ok 3m plus ,and the most Iv seem for is 15 gauge.

Club hammer it remains then!!

Can't you use screws? Time an issue??
No screws for some reason,possibly could work themselves lose after a few days of ground movement,God knows.the company has set procedures and 6 inch nails it is.Time not the issue its the fact that trying to hammer in nails with all sorts of cables and water mains in the way makes for a right laugh while tryin to balance 3m lengths of wood

i know you have to follow what you have been told, in using nails......but using screws is far stronger than using nails....a screw would never work themselves loose from ground movement....someones talking out of there backside.... :yes: if they are that worried, why don't they use acro's
We acro up to push out but after the walings are in the hole,and nailed into wooden corners in each side of the hole.the firm is audit mad and they check most deep exes to make sure there fixed aswell as acro being used.

The joys of working for an American company who change there rules every 6 months!

By the way I'm no chippie or joiner,I fix gas leaks for a living and the majority are deep hence the need for the wooden shuttering so Iv no clue about what is better under ground movement out of screw or nail!
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Struggling like mad to find one,don't think it will happen as we need some pretty thick gauge nails to secure timbering for deep excavations goin ok 3m plus ,and the most Iv seem for is 15 gauge.

Club hammer it remains then!!

Can't you use screws? Time an issue??
No screws for some reason,possibly could work themselves lose after a few days of ground movement,God knows.the company has set procedures and 6 inch nails it is.Time not the issue its the fact that trying to hammer in nails with all sorts of cables and water mains in the way makes for a right laugh while tryin to balance 3m lengths of wood

i know you have to follow what you have been told, in using nails......but using screws is far stronger than using nails....a screw would never work themselves loose from ground movement....someones talking out of there backside.... :yes: if they are that worried, why don't they use acro's
We acro up to push out but after the walings are in the hole,and nailed into wooden corners in each side of the hole.the firm is audit mad and they check most deep exes to make sure there fixed aswell as acro being used.

The joys of working for an American company who change there rules every 6 months!

By the way I'm no chippie or joiner,I fix gas leaks for a living and the majority are deep hence the need for the wooden shuttering so Iv no clue about what is better under ground movement out of screw or nail!

 

i understand your predicament mate...you have to do as your told.......i'm no gas fitter, the last time i mended a gas leak...i had to strike a match to find it.......... :laugh: on a serious note tho....a screw is a lot lot stronger holding wood together than a nail :yes:

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screws snap a lot quicker than nails. the hardened steel usually used may hold tighter but will fail suddenly under side loads that will bend a nail. Use "coach" bolts with thread on the first 3 inches only. That will allow the boards to swell etc without stressing the bolt, yet being made of mild steel, they will bend, but not fail under side loads. They fly in with a drill/driver.

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