tillylamp 1,830 Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 don't bother with a spring air rifle mate, there old hat now as the pcp's are so much better, get yourself an hw100, aa s410 etc.... Quote Link to post
random 659 Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 don't bother with a spring air rifle mate, there old hat now as the pcp's are so much better, get yourself an hw100, aa s410 etc.... Quote Link to post
tillylamp 1,830 Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 don't bother with a spring air rifle mate, there old hat now as the pcp's are so much better, get yourself an hw100, aa s410 etc.... Quote Link to post
random 659 Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 don't bother with a spring air rifle mate, there old hat now as the pcp's are so much better, get yourself an hw100, aa s410 etc.... OK so we both seem confused by your statement,so please explain how they are "better" Quote Link to post
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 don't bother with a spring air rifle mate, there old hat now as the pcp's are so much better, get yourself an hw100, aa s410 etc.... C'mon guys .... keep it going 1 Quote Link to post
random 659 Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 don't bother with a spring air rifle mate, there old hat now as the pcp's are so much better, get yourself an hw100, aa s410 etc.... C'mon guys .... keep it going 1 Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 don't bother with a spring air rifle mate, there old hat now as the pcp's are so much better, get yourself an hw100, aa s410 etc.... C'mon guys .... keep it going 1 Quote Link to post
tillylamp 1,830 Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 don't bother with a spring air rifle mate, there old hat now as the pcp's are so much better, get yourself an hw100, aa s410 etc.... OK so we both seem confused by your statement,so please explain how they are "better" i knew it ruffle a few feathers by my statement..... but i personally prefer the pcp's over a springer, because.....there multi shot, quieter, no recoil, and really accurate, i've never had a problem shooting a springer....a few pellets and i'm bang on, but ever since i got a pcp, i've never looked back, the speed between pellet to pellet whilst out hunting has been a big advantage, it's like moving with the times......when a car use to have only 4 speed, wind up windows, and two speed wipers....then getting a 5 speed car with electric windows and 4 speed wipers, you like the move forward.....or.....fishing with a cane,or solid fibreglass rod, then using a carbon fibre rod, they both do the same thing.....but the newer versions feel, look, and work that much better, i would always point someone looking for an air rifle in the pcp direction without a shadow of doubt.....i'm sure someone will tell me i've committed a big sin, and that you should always keep a springer in the cupboard to keep yourself on aim..but in all honestly, i never have been one that needs to keep myself in check, i must of got it off my dad, he was a crack shot with guns, a natural.....i wondered if he was related to Annie Oakley....... 1 Quote Link to post
Mark. H 1 Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Personally I think PCP shooting takes the skill and sport away I own 3 air rifles all springers. Weihrauch hw99s. Relum tornado and a tx200hc bit like racing a corsa 1ltr in F1 car yeah it wins every time but no skill needed and you soon want a challenge Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,787 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 don't bother with a spring air rifle mate, there old hat now as the pcp's are so much better, get yourself an hw100, aa s410 etc.... OK so we both seem confused by your statement,so please explain how they are "better" i knew it ruffle a few feathers by my statement..... but i personally prefer the pcp's over a springer, because.....there multi shot, quieter, no recoil, and really accurate, i've never had a problem shooting a springer....a few pellets and i'm bang on, but ever since i got a pcp, i've never looked back, the speed between pellet to pellet whilst out hunting has been a big advantage, it's like moving with the times......when a car use to have only 4 speed, wind up windows, and two speed wipers....then getting a 5 speed car with electric windows and 4 speed wipers, you like the move forward.....or.....fishing with a cane,or solid fibreglass rod, then using a carbon fibre rod, they both do the same thing.....but the newer versions feel, look, and work that much better, i would always point someone looking for an air rifle in the pcp direction without a shadow of doubt.....i'm sure someone will tell me i've committed a big sin, and that you should always keep a springer in the cupboard to keep yourself on aim..but in all honestly, i never have been one that needs to keep myself in check, i must of got it off my dad, he was a crack shot with guns, a natural.....i wondered if he was related to Annie Oakley....... You should get your self out with Simon (pianoman) you with your pcp and him with one of his springers the man often takes out up to rabbits an outing with his hw,s or 77 i no who my money will be on and it would not be the pcp atvbmac :thumbs: Quote Link to post
random 659 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 I don't think it's about ruffling feathers as much as it sounds like you are dismissing a perfectly fine and capable tool as obsolete or useless somehow,i wouldn't say it's like a cane rod compared to carbon as that's a completely different thing,in terms of rifles they are made of the same materials,springer/pcp,just powered differently,a pcp doesn't feel better in the hand it feels the same? The difference is in firing with the recoil being the only difference,they are as accurate,consistant and quiet as a pcp,the multi shot is an advantage I agree,even though you can get springers with that option,so to be fair I'd say they are equal and hope you can atone for your sins!! 1 Quote Link to post
random 659 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 And as Mac is kind of pointing out,and this is not directed at anyone,pcp are believed to more accurate somehow,especially by those who know little of air rifles and I think that's something that needs to be put straight,we all know their is no more accurate than the other if should really come down to the shooters needs... 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,787 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 And as Mac is kind of pointing out,and this is not directed at anyone,pcp are believed to more accurate somehow,especially by those who know little of air rifles and I think that's something that needs to be put straight,we all know their is no more accurate than the other if should really come down to the shooters needs... Simon put me to shame with his hw80 out to 35mtrs and i was using the hw100s and we all know how good they are i could not get my groupings as tight as he did with the hw80 pellet on pellet every time with out fail you may think you can shoot a pcp better than a springer until you meat some one that can shoot a springer better than you can a pcp atvbmac :thumbs: Quote Link to post
Dan Dare 19 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Nail on the head, Mac. Simon is not your average shooter. For them, a PCP may be more accurate, because it's easier to use. But for someone who knows what they're doing, it's a different story. Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Most folk would not believe how good the 77 is if they've never shouldered one, well over engineered for it's time, I still own one, it's seen some action, and shows it, but it's still a seriously good gun. Grandfather of the 97. Quote Link to post
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