Guest joe ox Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) SJM What if the dog only has a chance of 1 maybe 2 up and at them strikes before the hare makes its escape, which breed would be better then? Edited December 5, 2007 by joe ox Link to post
Guest SJM Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Neither, cos the greyhound would probably overshoot and the saluki might not be fast enough If it was over a short distance in a small field I would probably put my money on a good sized racing whippet if were still talking pure breeds. Thats the reason why we have lurchers Joe, to try and blend the best qualities from different breeds, to produce the ultimate dog, or as close to it as possible. Why do you always try and diss salukis? Surely its common sense that a selectively bred distance runner is going to beat a sprinter with very little in the tank every time? I think the salukis track record on the coursing field speaks for itself. Ive never heard of any pure greys, deerhounds or even whippets that could compete and stand their own against saluki lurchers on the fens, but if you know different please share?? Link to post
pigeonphill 69 Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) Neither, cos the greyhound would probably overshoot and the saluki might not be fast enough If it was over a short distance in a small field I would probably put my money on a good sized racing whippet if were still talking pure breeds. Thats the reason why we have lurchers Joe, to try and blend the best qualities from different breeds, to produce the ultimate dog, or as close to it as possible. Why do you always try and diss salukis? Surely its common sense that a selectively bred distance runner is going to beat a sprinter with very little in the tank every time? I think the salukis track record on the coursing field speaks for itself. Ive never heard of any pure greys, deerhounds or even whippets that could compete and stand their own against saluki lurchers on the fens, but if you know different please share?? u cant beat the saluki for staminer and most will run for days thats why so many people cross them with the greyhound for there early pace hoping to get the dog that can get to there hare, and then if need to stick to there job , until its done as a lot of money can be made out of 3 out of 3 coursing matches Edited December 5, 2007 by pigeonphill Link to post
rabitin girl 16 Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Saluki every time Link to post
Bush Rummager 4,315 Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 If you're talking just the one run, mabye two, on average size fields, my wonga would be on the pure Greyhound, an experienced coursing dog mind. From what ive seen on meets out with the club at Swaffam, those pure greys are hell bent on getting that hare in their mouth! Combine that with their blinding speed and that tad of experience, would take some beating IMO, If your looking at bigger land, multipul runs... of course the Saluki, other end of scale, no prises for guessing whats comming.... well bred whippet, JMO,.... but what do i know.... Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 SJM, I aint dissing the saluki I just dont worship it like some do! The saluki is a PIECE of the daytime puzzle which can be very hard to get correct. Link to post
Guest SJM Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 SJM, I aint dissing the saluki I just dont worship it like some do! The saluki is a PIECE of the daytime puzzle which can be very hard to get correct. Well thats for sure, its very hard to get all the right qualities in just the right measure Link to post
dennned 172 Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 this is a real conundrum pure speed then the greyhound pure stamina then the saluki agility then it's either or being realistic it just depends on the ground that you are hunting hills then it's the greyhound flat fields then it's the blistering speed of the greyhound vast open spaces the it's the saluki so it really comes down to a matter of choice. Link to post
Paid 935 Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Both breeds have floors or why else would there crosses be so popular. A little thing called hybrid vigour. Littel, but very important, have a read up on it. It makes a huge difference in many thing, from the plant world, right upto humans. Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Both breeds have floors or why else would there crosses be so popular. A little thing called hybrid vigour. Littel, but very important, have a read up on it. It makes a huge difference in many thing, from the plant world, right upto humans. I dont need to read up on it I am well aware of what it means, thats basicly what I said just in plain terms! Link to post
Guest SJM Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 What do you mean both breeds have floors? Or did you mean flaws? Link to post
miles 227 Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Theory,theory blar blar blar............. bring you papered up dog of ANY breed and lets see Link to post
baz 463 Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 at the waterloo cup, the best greyhounds from uk raced, doubled up..well experienced dogs...how many hares get caught? not many is it....i remember one year it was 3, on the first day.....so that doesnt really put the greyhound down as a good catch dog does it really...you need them in a lurcher for speed but thats about it Link to post
Paid 935 Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Both breeds have floors or why else would there crosses be so popular. A little thing called hybrid vigour. Littel, but very important, have a read up on it. It makes a huge difference in many thing, from the plant world, right upto humans. I dont need to read up on it I am well aware of what it means, thats basicly what I said just in plain terms! no, you didnt. You said you get the best bit of both, in a plain sorta roundabout way. You didnt mention, or allude to the fact that as well as that, you get some thing else. Hybrid vigour. Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) Paid your splitting hares Another excellent example of "hybrid vigour" is the bedlington x whippet SJM yes I meant flaws :mellow: Edited December 5, 2007 by joe ox Link to post
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