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Never understood this desperation to try and defend the Islamic faith......most people will say Muslim extremists are the biggest threat to us

 

I haven't seen any posts where people have tried to defend the Islamic faith. Why would they have to. The cnut that done this wasn't representing muslims..., he claimed to be representing an organisation (ISIS) that's killed far more muslims than it's killed all other faiths put together. And no-one has tried to defend the killer, or ISIS. Equally I don't hear anyone lamenting the death of thousands of innocent men, women & children to the same terrorist organisation in countries who don't want them there..., and who don't even consider ISIS to be muslims.

 

It's also looking like he actually had nothing to do with ISIS, and that he was actually a bit of a weirdo who didn't fit in with society. You'll no doubt read that as being some sort of leftist government cover up. No matter what his reasons were, he had no right to do what he did.

 

The crux of many of the arguments on these threads are that some believe that when one of these attacks happen, that all muslims should be held accountable..., and followed by the cries for their ethnic cleansing. Anyone who disagrees with that view is branded an appeaser, an apologist and a traitor. That includes me personally.

 

I have never defended Islam as a religion, and never defended these murdering terrorist b*****ds. I just don't buy the whole idea that we should blame all muslims for the actions of a very small minority. And unless you think that Americas 3 million muslims are all some sort of 'sleeper cell', then I don't know how anyone else can either.

 

All Muslims shouldn't be held accountable but their religion should....Isis is relatively new on the seen and only behind some of the numerous attacks on the west carried out by Muslims over the past 25 years some of the terrorists have not even been connected to any group just brainwashed in their mosques......All claim to be doing it in the name of their religion

 

As i have said whenever there is a topic concerning Muslims be it about Grooming Gangs/Rape/Terrorism or whatever some feel the need to point out that non Muslims are just as bad and have done this or done that and all are just as bad.......To me that is defending them

 

 

Mohamed Ali was right when he said if theres 10 thousand snakes coming towards me but only 1 thousand of them is going to bite me im shutting the door on all 10 thousand of them

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Who cares what type of bar it is???   Innocent people have been murdered for nothing!

Who said i cared what bar it was i was clearly stating a fact calm down benders

there has just been a further up date on the news just now, some of it you already know, he did it in the name of isis and for hatred, also for the revenge of the Boston bombers, he was already known

 

 

 

Len if you class yaself as a Christian then ye are a joke imo

bloody hell w katchum is on the moral high ground.he wouldn't give a feck if it was a club full of gingers.haha
he was just wishing he was in the club now there's men with 3 arse holes and he can bum left right n centre

It seems to be you that's got an uneasy facination with gay guys and bumming left right and centre, if your realy are a Christian Len, go pray, it will be more beneficial than spouting your hatred in the web and hiding behind your religion

i don't hate the gay community, not happy about the way they're trying to nit pick and hassle the church but defo don't hate them as a group and certainly wouldn't harm any, except the kunt that runs PETA
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Never understood this desperation to try and defend the Islamic faith......most people will say Muslim extremists are the biggest threat to us

 

Has anyone on here defended the Islamic extremist that carried out this attack?

 

Apart from neems and a few other scumbags like him of course :hmm:

 

 

So trying to put yourself in someone elses shoes,to understand their thought process means you're defending them?

He was either a rogue lunatic or a genuine martyr for his cause,I think he was a martyr for his cause (not mine) and just explained why.

 

Are you feeling a bit triggered because now even most liberals won't believe in your Utopian multi-cult society where everyone just gets on?

:laugh:

 

 

Why on earth would I care what a bunch of liberals think? :blink:

 

I wonder how "triggered" you and the rest of the altright internet weirdos are going to be when Trump doesn't win the presidency :laugh:

 

Keep dreaming of the backlash that's never going to happen pal ;)

 

 

Because they're the overwhelming majority of the 'left'?

I don't think Trump will be president,never have thought he would,Hillary will be better for Muslims anyaway,won't she?

 

The backlash is happening,people are avoiding their shops,not associating with them and voicing their concern slightly more freely every day.

The Overton window is certainly not where it was last week.

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there has just been a further up date on the news just now, some of it you already know, he did it in the name of isis and for hatred, also for the revenge of the Boston bombers, he was already known to the feds, they pulled him in on two occasions over terrorism, but no charges were ever made, he has been eyeing up an assault on disney world orlando, and other places, his ex wife said...he was a very quick tempered man, very aggressive and he's on steroids, he worked for g4 security, so he got a good look at some places without looking suspicious,

59 people have died now, 53 injured, 9 are critical, and more will die, my thoughts go out to the families and love ones at this sad time,

rip to the victims.

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Never understood this desperation to try and defend the Islamic faith......most people will say Muslim extremists are the biggest threat to us

 

Has anyone on here defended the Islamic extremist that carried out this attack?

 

Apart from neems and a few other scumbags like him of course :hmm:

 

 

So trying to put yourself in someone elses shoes,to understand their thought process means you're defending them?

He was either a rogue lunatic or a genuine martyr for his cause,I think he was a martyr for his cause (not mine) and just explained why.

 

Are you feeling a bit triggered because now even most liberals won't believe in your Utopian multi-cult society where everyone just gets on?

:laugh:

 

 

Why on earth would I care what a bunch of liberals think? :blink:

 

I wonder how "triggered" you and the rest of the altright internet weirdos are going to be when Trump doesn't win the presidency :laugh:

 

Keep dreaming of the backlash that's never going to happen pal ;)

 

 

Because they're the overwhelming majority of the 'left'?

 

In America, maybe. Your ideas on the left and politics in general are very Amerocentric pal, too much time spent on all those American sites I reckon ;)

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there has just been a further up date on the news just now, some of it you already know, he did it in the name of isis and for hatred, also for the revenge of the Boston bombers, he was already known to the feds, they pulled him in on two occasions over terrorism, but no charges were ever made, he has been eyeing up an assault on disney world orlando, and other places, his ex wife said...he was a very quick tempered man, very aggressive and he's on steroids, he worked for g4 security, so he got a good look at some places without looking suspicious,

59 people have died now, 53 injured, 9 are critical, and more will die, my thoughts go out to the families and love ones at this sad time,

rip to the victims.

 

Further reports say he'd been seen several times at said club & had 'gay apps' on his phone.........research or closet homo?

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there has just been a further up date on the news just now, some of it you already know, he did it in the name of isis and for hatred, also for the revenge of the Boston bombers, he was already known to the feds, they pulled him in on two occasions over terrorism, but no charges were ever made, he has been eyeing up an assault on disney world orlando, and other places, his ex wife said...he was a very quick tempered man, very aggressive and he's on steroids, he worked for g4 security, so he got a good look at some places without looking suspicious,

59 people have died now, 53 injured, 9 are critical, and more will die, my thoughts go out to the families and love ones at this sad time,

rip to the victims.

Further reports say he'd been seen several times at said club & had 'gay apps' on his phone.........research or closet homo?
This was my first thought on it. was he a closet gay full of self loathing caused by Islam.. It's difficult for any gay but to be Muslim and gay must be a real head fuk Edited by kanny
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there has just been a further up date on the news just now, some of it you already know, he did it in the name of isis and for hatred, also for the revenge of the Boston bombers, he was already known to the feds, they pulled him in on two occasions over terrorism, but no charges were ever made, he has been eyeing up an assault on disney world orlando, and other places, his ex wife said...he was a very quick tempered man, very aggressive and he's on steroids, he worked for g4 security, so he got a good look at some places without looking suspicious,

59 people have died now, 53 injured, 9 are critical, and more will die, my thoughts go out to the families and love ones at this sad time,

rip to the victims.

Further reports say he'd been seen several times at said club & had 'gay apps' on his phone.........research or closet homo?
This was my first thought on it was he a closet gay full of self loathing caused by Islam.. It's difficult for any gay but to be Muslim and gay must be a real head fuk

FBI reports said yesterday during three 911 calls he made, that he affiliated himself with 2 opposing factions, ISIS being one of them............obviously a very confused individual

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there has just been a further up date on the news just now, some of it you already know, he did it in the name of isis and for hatred, also for the revenge of the Boston bombers, he was already known to the feds, they pulled him in on two occasions over terrorism, but no charges were ever made, he has been eyeing up an assault on disney world orlando, and other places, his ex wife said...he was a very quick tempered man, very aggressive and he's on steroids, he worked for g4 security, so he got a good look at some places without looking suspicious,

59 people have died now, 53 injured, 9 are critical, and more will die, my thoughts go out to the families and love ones at this sad time,

rip to the victims.

 

we were in the Disney attractions 3 months ago too, Kissimmee and Orlando if full of Muslims I'm very surprised they haven't tried before, but I think this man was at war with himself, maybe he was a closet ballroot himself, RIP to the victims
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Reports his father was also on the radar for Radical views is that right Tilly ?

His father is apparently not 100% mentally,after being in america he declared himself the president of afghanistan in absentia,as has been said the son had more than a passing interest in homosexuals,one guy interviewed earlier said he had seen him there once trying to pick up men,his dad blames the club for not having better security.

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Never understood this desperation to try and defend the Islamic faith......most people will say Muslim extremists are the biggest threat to us

 

Has anyone on here defended the Islamic extremist that carried out this attack?

 

Apart from neems and a few other scumbags like him of course :hmm:

 

 

So trying to put yourself in someone elses shoes,to understand their thought process means you're defending them?

He was either a rogue lunatic or a genuine martyr for his cause,I think he was a martyr for his cause (not mine) and just explained why.

 

Are you feeling a bit triggered because now even most liberals won't believe in your Utopian multi-cult society where everyone just gets on?

:laugh:

 

 

Why on earth would I care what a bunch of liberals think? :blink:

 

I wonder how "triggered" you and the rest of the altright internet weirdos are going to be when Trump doesn't win the presidency :laugh:

 

Keep dreaming of the backlash that's never going to happen pal ;)

 

 

Because they're the overwhelming majority of the 'left'?

 

In America, maybe. Your ideas on the left and politics in general are very Amerocentric pal, too much time spent on all those American sites I reckon ;)

 

 

You seem to try to pigeonhole me into a group 'alt-right' etc,as far as I'm aware that's not a thing in the UK,if you're actually interested (why you would be I don't know) the clue's in my sig.

 

Maybe 'overwhelming' is a bit strong though,there are also the senile pensioners still trying to keep Thatcher out of number 10,and 3rd generation dole scroungers who want more JSA.

But they'd still loosely fit the description of modern liberal,imo.

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