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Who cares what type of bar it is???   Innocent people have been murdered for nothing!

Who said i cared what bar it was i was clearly stating a fact calm down benders

there has just been a further up date on the news just now, some of it you already know, he did it in the name of isis and for hatred, also for the revenge of the Boston bombers, he was already known

 

 

 

I'd call killing 50 gay people pretty homophobic. So why the call beforehand claiming allegiance to IS?

most likely a weirdo loner feeling rejected by the world wanting to be accepted by somebody

I think he's a martyr for his cause tbh,it appears he's been an Islamist a long time.

If this happens even 3 or 4 more times gays won't be so loud and crass anymore,and children won't grow up thinking this lifestyle is normal.

Not to say I agree with his method at all,but his goal may be achieved one day soon thanks to his sacrifice.

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Never understood this desperation to try and defend the Islamic faith......most people will say Muslim extremists are the biggest threat to us

 

I haven't seen any posts where people have tried to defend the Islamic faith. Why would they have to. The cnut that done this wasn't representing muslims..., he claimed to be representing an organisation (ISIS) that's killed far more muslims than it's killed all other faiths put together. And no-one has tried to defend the killer, or ISIS. Equally I don't hear anyone lamenting the death of thousands of innocent men, women & children to the same terrorist organisation in countries who don't want them there..., and who don't even consider ISIS to be muslims.

 

It's also looking like he actually had nothing to do with ISIS, and that he was actually a bit of a weirdo who didn't fit in with society. You'll no doubt read that as being some sort of leftist government cover up. No matter what his reasons were, he had no right to do what he did.

 

The crux of many of the arguments on these threads are that some believe that when one of these attacks happen, that all muslims should be held accountable..., and followed by the cries for their ethnic cleansing. Anyone who disagrees with that view is branded an appeaser, an apologist and a traitor. That includes me personally.

 

I have never defended Islam as a religion, and never defended these murdering terrorist b*****ds. I just don't buy the whole idea that we should blame all muslims for the actions of a very small minority. And unless you think that Americas 3 million muslims are all some sort of 'sleeper cell', then I don't know how anyone else can either.

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Len if you class yaself as a Christian then ye are a joke imo

 

bloody hell w katchum is on the moral high ground.he wouldn't give a feck if it was a club full of gingers.haha
he was just wishing he was in the club now there's men with 3 arse holes and he can bum left right n centre
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Never understood this desperation to try and defend the Islamic faith......most people will say Muslim extremists are the biggest threat to us

 

I haven't seen any posts where people have tried to defend the Islamic faith. Why would they have to. The cnut that done this wasn't representing muslims..., he claimed to be representing an organisation (ISIS) that's killed far more muslims than it's killed all other faiths put together. And no-one has tried to defend the killer, or ISIS. Equally I don't hear anyone lamenting the death of thousands of innocent men, women & children to the same terrorist organisation in countries who don't want them there..., and who don't even consider ISIS to be muslims.

 

It's also looking like he actually had nothing to do with ISIS, and that he was actually a bit of a weirdo who didn't fit in with society. You'll no doubt read that as being some sort of leftist government cover up. No matter what his reasons were, he had no right to do what he did.

 

The crux of many of the arguments on these threads are that some believe that when one of these attacks happen, that all muslims should be held accountable..., and followed by the cries for their ethnic cleansing. Anyone who disagrees with that view is branded an appeaser, an apologist and a traitor. That includes me personally.

 

I have never defended Islam as a religion, and never defended these murdering terrorist b*****ds. I just don't buy the whole idea that we should blame all muslims for the actions of a very small minority. And unless you think that Americas 3 million muslims are all some sort of 'sleeper cell', then I don't know how anyone else can either.

 

 

Fecking good post pal :thumbs:

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Never understood this desperation to try and defend the Islamic faith......most people will say Muslim extremists are the biggest threat to us

 

Has anyone on here defended the Islamic extremist that carried out this attack?

 

Apart from neems and a few other scumbags like him of course :hmm:

 

 

So trying to put yourself in someone elses shoes,to understand their thought process means you're defending them?

He was either a rogue lunatic or a genuine martyr for his cause,I think he was a martyr for his cause (not mine) and just explained why.

 

Are you feeling a bit triggered because now even most liberals won't believe in your Utopian multi-cult society where everyone just gets on?

:laugh:

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Never understood this desperation to try and defend the Islamic faith......most people will say Muslim extremists are the biggest threat to us

 

Has anyone on here defended the Islamic extremist that carried out this attack?

 

Apart from neems and a few other scumbags like him of course :hmm:

 

 

So trying to put yourself in someone elses shoes,to understand their thought process means you're defending them?

He was either a rogue lunatic or a genuine martyr for his cause,I think he was a martyr for his cause (not mine) and just explained why.

 

Are you feeling a bit triggered because now even most liberals won't believe in your Utopian multi-cult society where everyone just gets on?

:laugh:

 

 

Why on earth would I care what a bunch of liberals think? :blink:

 

I wonder how "triggered" you and the rest of the altright internet weirdos are going to be when Trump doesn't win the presidency :laugh:

 

Keep dreaming of the backlash that's never going to happen pal ;)

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Rusty I don't care if your white' black' yellow or a mix so long as you put your country of birth before you religion .

There is nothing wrong with practicing any religion so long as you don't put it before the well being of your Countrymen

I'm NO racist but I'm a realist

And we importing the wrong types' unchecked and Unvetted in far to many numbers

It can only end in tears.

All I'm saying is what I feel and think

God gave us free will' and in GB you have free speech .

Either be patriotic to the land of your birth or the country that accepted you or your a wrongun in my eyes.

Finally a sensible post

He was due,,,lol

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Rusty I don't care if your white' black' yellow or a mix so long as you put your country of birth before you religion .

There is nothing wrong with practicing any religion so long as you don't put it before the well being of your Countrymen

I'm NO racist but I'm a realist

And we importing the wrong types' unchecked and Unvetted in far to many numbers

It can only end in tears.

All I'm saying is what I feel and think

God gave us free will' and in GB you have free speech .

Either be patriotic to the land of your birth or the country that accepted you or your a wrongun in my eyes.

Finally a sensible post
He was due,,,lol
Law of averages. Lol
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Never understood this desperation to try and defend the Islamic faith......most people will say Muslim extremists are the biggest threat to us

 

I haven't seen any posts where people have tried to defend the Islamic faith. Why would they have to. The cnut that done this wasn't representing muslims..., he claimed to be representing an organisation (ISIS) that's killed far more muslims than it's killed all other faiths put together. And no-one has tried to defend the killer, or ISIS. Equally I don't hear anyone lamenting the death of thousands of innocent men, women & children to the same terrorist organisation in countries who don't want them there..., and who don't even consider ISIS to be muslims.

 

It's also looking like he actually had nothing to do with ISIS, and that he was actually a bit of a weirdo who didn't fit in with society. You'll no doubt read that as being some sort of leftist government cover up. No matter what his reasons were, he had no right to do what he did.

 

The crux of many of the arguments on these threads are that some believe that when one of these attacks happen, that all muslims should be held accountable..., and followed by the cries for their ethnic cleansing. Anyone who disagrees with that view is branded an appeaser, an apologist and a traitor. That includes me personally.

 

I have never defended Islam as a religion, and never defended these murdering terrorist b*****ds. I just don't buy the whole idea that we should blame all muslims for the actions of a very small minority. And unless you think that Americas 3 million muslims are all some sort of 'sleeper cell', then I don't know how anyone else can either.

Nobody is blaming all Muslims but all these attacks are done in the name of Islam wether he's a true radical or a fruitcake. It's time to stop pussy footing around no matter who we upset in the process. Call us racists I don't care but last I checked Muslims weren't a race.

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Never understood this desperation to try and defend the Islamic faith......most people will say Muslim extremists are the biggest threat to us

I haven't seen any posts where people have tried to defend the Islamic faith. Why would they have to. The cnut that done this wasn't representing muslims..., he claimed to be representing an organisation (ISIS) that's killed far more muslims than it's killed all other faiths put together. And no-one has tried to defend the killer, or ISIS. Equally I don't hear anyone lamenting the death of thousands of innocent men, women & children to the same terrorist organisation in countries who don't want them there..., and who don't even consider ISIS to be muslims.

 

It's also looking like he actually had nothing to do with ISIS, and that he was actually a bit of a weirdo who didn't fit in with society. You'll no doubt read that as being some sort of leftist government cover up. No matter what his reasons were, he had no right to do what he did.

 

The crux of many of the arguments on these threads are that some believe that when one of these attacks happen, that all muslims should be held accountable..., and followed by the cries for their ethnic cleansing. Anyone who disagrees with that view is branded an appeaser, an apologist and a traitor. That includes me personally.

 

I have never defended Islam as a religion, and never defended these murdering terrorist b*****ds. I just don't buy the whole idea that we should blame all muslims for the actions of a very small minority. And unless you think that Americas 3 million muslims are all some sort of 'sleeper cell', then I don't know how anyone else can either.

Best post I've read in some time.

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