morton 5,368 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 How do they always f/ck it up at the dying seconds of the game Gareth Bale was quoted in the press during the week that the Welsh lads played with more heart and pride,sanctimonious Welsh twat i thought at the time.Then i watched the Wales match and saw lads that play in the Championship playing with far more passion,pride and ability than their pampered English cousins,i owe Bale an apology and England will never ever win anything again until they learn to play with passion,as the Welsh showed you don,t need to be the best to beat the so called best,the Greeks and Danes should have learnt us that lesson from the Euros.Hodgson should have been replaced well before the Euros,plus 60% of his pampered squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,625 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 The Germans have just given a footballing master class.......by the way Man U fans, he is shit that Sweinstiger isn't he !! Lol lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,469 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Bar sterling (no fault of his own , left on for too long after when it was clear his legs had gone) I couldn't fault 1 player , the manager is a joke , it was screaming out for Vardy last 20 (replace sterling) , what did that Fukcing clown do left sterling on to struggle then replaced him with Milner who has no pace what-so-ever and it encouraged the Russians to attack , where as Vardy would of had them fearing his pace hence Hemingway them back , who scored the equaliser oh that's right there centre half encouraged to go forward as there was no threat up front for him to worry about !! Thats exactly how i saw it.......the worry is we couldnt beat what im sure will prove to be the weakest team in the group. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stevo79 569 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Redknap for England ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,625 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 As an aside, do you think that is possibly the last time you will see Rooney kick a ball for England?......now I have always been a fan of Rooney but he looked very uncomfortable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,469 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Redknap for England Too late.....they didnt have the bollocks for Harry and went safety first....... if given the opportunity now Harry would stick 2 fingers up to them,and rightly so. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,469 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 As an aside, do you think that is possibly the last time you will see Rooney kick a ball for England?......now I have always been a fan of Rooney but he looked very uncomfortable. What makes you say that Wilf ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,625 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Well mate, they brought him off IMHO because he was well off the pace, he (understandably ) struggled in the position. I think teams will have a look at that and get after him if he plays there again....and I think they will catch him out. Wiltshire looked much brighter and confident when he came on and he played higher up. I don't see how old Woy can drop Rooney back in there mate ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morton 5,368 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Redknap for England Clough learnt the lesson that the olde boys club that run England will only ever select Yes men,Hodgson is a prime example of a manager with little credentials than being the establishments lacky,Redknap had better credentials yet did not fit the establishment,the establishment that paid for a managers service to suit theirs,Capello and Sven.Allardyce or Wenger after the Euro debacle awaiting this England team,id go with Wenger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,469 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 I thought Rooney played well myself i think this deeper role suits him as he can be trusted on the ball and has great vision.....i agree he probably hasnt got the legs for 90 minutes but i didnt see any reason to change anything i like Wiltshere but he does seem to march on a bit and leave big gaps behind him.......call me old fashioned but i just dont get this obsession with making substitutions when nothings going wrong......its what cost us in my opinion and theres only 1 man responsible for that....lets face it another 30 seconds and we would all be sitting here perfectly happy with a good start to the tournament. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,625 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 It's funny how people see games different, I thought Rooney played midfield like a number 10 put in mid field ! Lol His range of passing is as good as ever of course, those diagonal balls are as good as you will see but he got hunted down a few times facing our own defence and lost out, he also struggled to put his foot in a bit and players went round him.....Jmho but you have to be able to hold the ball and you have to be able to put yourself about in that position and I don't think he did. Of course when the years are gaining, playing high up can be risky but when you are in your prime it's the way forward because you should have the legs to get back in shape if it breaks down. All just my opinion mate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,472 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Well mate, they brought him off IMHO because he was well off the pace, he (understandably ) struggled in the position. I think teams will have a look at that and get after him if he plays there again....and I think they will catch him out. Wiltshire looked much brighter and confident when he came on and he played higher up. I don't see how old Woy can drop Rooney back in there mate ? Can't agree with that mate, I honestly thought he was too class and hardly put a foot wrong, helped in defends when needed and his passing was sublime, long all short he looked after the ball properly, I actually thought you would've enjoyed his display. Heard somewhere he was likened to pirlo for Italy, now that's maybe a step to far but not a mile away IMO . I will agree that wilshere looked very bright when he came on, hard to squeeze them all in as Llana also had a decent game, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,472 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) It's funny how people see games different, I thought Rooney played midfield like a number 10 put in mid field ! Lol His range of passing is as good as ever of course, those diagonal balls are as good as you will see but he got hunted down a few times facing our own defence and lost out, he also struggled to put his foot in a bit and players went round him.....Jmho but you have to be able to hold the ball and you have to be able to put yourself about in that position and I don't think he did. Of course when the years are gaining, playing high up can be risky but when you are in your prime it's the way forward because you should have the legs to get back in shape if it breaks down. All just my opinion mate. I think Dier had a very good game and Rooney had great cover from him, sterling is a bit light weight and wouldn't start for me, but raw pace is hated by every defender and he had that, think we could play a touch narrower though so leave him out as the fullbacks bomb on really well, and play another striker Vardy to start but think Rashford could provide something different off the bench Edited June 12, 2016 by NEWKID Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,625 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 That will just be me then ! Lol lol.......Lallana I really like mate, he just looked really up for it. Other than that it was mediocre but then again we are a mediocre team so no surprises there...... As for Rooney playing mid field like Pirlo?......it must be cider season down your neck of the woods ! haha 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,472 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 That will just be me then ! Lol lol.......Lallana I really like mate, he just looked really up for it. Other than that it was mediocre but then again we are a mediocre team so no surprises there...... As for Rooney playing mid field like Pirlo?......it must be cider season down your neck of the woods ! haha Haha... You're not wrong, good crop of apples last year lol Wasn't me that said it, heard it on the radio I think, made me chuckle a bit tbf... Some positives, you never know they might click and surprise us all, or we go out and Wales go through!! f**k it don't even bare thinking about!! My phone would be red hot if that happened ffs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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