blackmaggie 3,376 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 There's no excuse for that none what so ever he's a cnut for doing that to a old lad but not all the same dd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dark-destroyer-85 636 Posted June 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 There's no excuse for that none what so ever he's a cnut for doing that to a old lad but not all the same ddnot saying they are mate seems to be bad on both sides from what lads have been saying on here wrong to hit old man like that 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackmaggie 3,376 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 I totally agree matey hitting a old lad the cnut deserves a kicking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,747 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Most Russians and a lot of the old USSR states still retain Military national service so trained yes, either learn the lesson or be on the end of several arse kickings simple really with any luck they'll set fire to a fair few mosques too n show the gay French how it's done You really havent got a clue?: The Russies tried that in Afghanistan and got their arses well and truly kicked. where is USSR now ?You really should learn some history.yea but although over run with Islamic shite Hawks it's not Afghanistan, it's gay Paris the ruskies would make mincemeat of your lot mr rambdul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Most Russians and a lot of the old USSR states still retain Military national service so trained yes, either learn the lesson or be on the end of several arse kickings simple reallywith any luck they'll set fire to a fair few mosques too n show the gay French how it's doneYou really havent got a clue?: The Russies tried that in Afghanistan and got their arses well and truly kicked. where is USSR now ?You really should learn some history.yea but although over run with Islamic shite Hawks it's not Afghanistan, it's gay Paris the ruskies would make mincemeat of your lot mr rambdul Showing your stupidity again Len common theme ,Do you talk such shite in your home town in NI? I doubt it you wouldnt last 2 minutes give your head a rattle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,064 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) maybe he thinks England should get points deducted for tearing up the port area and attacking the police for two days before they got a hiding off the Russians Where you had that from mate ?......i aint got eyes in the back of my nut but i didnt see or hear anything like that......from the minute we checked in we was getting told about attacks from local French/Africans etc.......our fans aint whiter than white i know that but on this occasion i dont think our lot did anything that wasnt started by others.... in the main. All over the main & sports media from Friday morning (reporting Thursday night). Some quotes and links.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36496823 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36504410 Police in Marseille have deployed tear gas for a second evening to disperse England fans gathered ahead of the Euro 2016 football championships. Officers in riot gear clashed with fans who threw bottles at police in the streets of the Old Port district. The fresh clashes in Marseille began outside a pub in the same area that had been affected by trouble on Thursday and continued well into the night. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36509843 Police in riot gear clashed with England fans, and used tear gas for a third day and a water cannon to try and stop outbursts of violence. I read your first post with interest, as I know from previous stuff you've posted that you've followed England a fair bit and know the score with what happened out there, and would give a good and grounded account of what you saw. And if you read my earlier posts, you'll see I've no interest in digging up England fans for what they did or didn't do..., I'm just not buying Max's version that the innocent English fans were sitting having a quiet beer when they were set about by African immigrants. England may not be the force they once were, but surely they've not all chucked it or were stuck at home with their passports confiscated? The video shows the England fans goading and then throwing bottles at the French coppers. There's no context regards what happened before this etc., so I'll take it at face value. It also shows (at about 5.00) the English mob (maybe a couple of hundred?) getting run down the street by a couple of dozen guys mostly in black shirts (Russians?). Not like England that. I've read a few reports about the Russian cnuts attacking ordinary punters that were only there for the game, both in & out of the ground, and there's no glory or honour in that. They have however taken England's mantle and established themselves as the 'team to beat' so far this tourney. Maybe Mad Max should write to Theresa May and get her to let the bulldogs off the leash right enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4IR8iE-wb0 oh ok mate its just a break down in translation when you said tearing up i thought you meant " tear up " as in fighting ....im probably a bit too old school i dont see all this throwing bottles and plastic chairs from a safe distance as football hooliganism thats just something that seems to have crept in.....i agree with you in many ways i truly believe these Russians are back where we was 30 years ago where they want to stand and fight people,i dont have a problem with that but many of our lads over there are these youngsters who think shouting out England songs while drinking beer constitutes representing your country in footie violence !!......its embarrassing and in some ways you could say dont talk the talk if you cant walk the walk fair enough.......but theres no excuse for running at families and shirters mate thats just wrong and never what footie violence was all about.....even fighting at footie has unwritten rules and these Russians are breaking the biggest rule of the lot. Edited June 14, 2016 by gnasher16 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 maybe he thinks England should get points deducted for tearing up the port area and attacking the police for two days before they got a hiding off the Russians Where you had that from mate ?......i aint got eyes in the back of my nut but i didnt see or hear anything like that......from the minute we checked in we was getting told about attacks from local French/Africans etc.......our fans aint whiter than white i know that but on this occasion i dont think our lot did anything that wasnt started by others.... in the main. All over the main & sports media from Friday morning (reporting Thursday night). Some quotes and links.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36496823 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36504410 Police in Marseille have deployed tear gas for a second evening to disperse England fans gathered ahead of the Euro 2016 football championships. Officers in riot gear clashed with fans who threw bottles at police in the streets of the Old Port district. The fresh clashes in Marseille began outside a pub in the same area that had been affected by trouble on Thursday and continued well into the night. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36509843 Police in riot gear clashed with England fans, and used tear gas for a third day and a water cannon to try and stop outbursts of violence. I read your first post with interest, as I know from previous stuff you've posted that you've followed England a fair bit and know the score with what happened out there, and would give a good and grounded account of what you saw. And if you read my earlier posts, you'll see I've no interest in digging up England fans for what they did or didn't do..., I'm just not buying Max's version that the innocent English fans were sitting having a quiet beer when they were set about by African immigrants. England may not be the force they once were, but surely they've not all chucked it or were stuck at home with their passports confiscated? The video shows the England fans goading and then throwing bottles at the French coppers. There's no context regards what happened before this etc., so I'll take it at face value. It also shows (at about 5.00) the English mob (maybe a couple of hundred?) getting run down the street by a couple of dozen guys mostly in black shirts (Russians?). Not like England that. I've read a few reports about the Russian cnuts attacking ordinary punters that were only there for the game, both in & out of the ground, and there's no glory or honour in that. They have however taken England's mantle and established themselves as the 'team to beat' so far this tourney. Maybe Mad Max should write to Theresa May and get her to let the bulldogs off the leash right enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4IR8iE-wb0 oh ok mate its just a break down in translation when you said tearing up i thought you meant " tear up " as in fighting ....im probably a bit too old school i dont see all this throwing bottles and plastic chairs from a safe distance as football hooliganism thats just something that seems to have crept in.....i agree with you in many ways i truly believe these Russians are back where we was 30 years ago where they want to stand and fight people,i dont have a problem with that but many of our lads over there are these youngsters who think shouting out England songs while drinking beer constitutes representing your country in footie violence !!......its embarrassing and in some ways you could say dont talk the talk if you cant walk the walk fair enough.......but theres no excuse for running at families and shirters mate thats just wrong and never what footie violence was all about. Which brings us back to taking some responsibility, rather than making excuses, who started it & what constitutes proper football violence! Haha..... What I've seen the Russians doing is real low life stuff, but we've got to hold our hands up as well & accept we've got plenty of fcukwits over there bringing it on to the genuine fans...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,064 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Most Russians and a lot of the old USSR states still retain Military national service so trained yes, either learn the lesson or be on the end of several arse kickings simple really Whats the lesson then chief ?.......dont go to watch a football match if you are English ? Are you a bit punchy ALF stick to talking boxing and football fantasies oh and canaries LOL What you having a pop at me for it was a simple enough question......or is that what you always do when you dont know what to say next. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MIK 4,756 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 The Welsh and Northern Irish are over there Mik Only the not there lol I would imagine the Taffs are the same as us jocks supporting A.B.E.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,064 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) Which brings us back to taking some responsibility, rather than making excuses, who started it & what constitutes proper football violence! Haha..... What I've seen the Russians doing is real low life stuff, but we've got to hold our hands up as well & accept we've got plenty of fcukwits over there bringing it on to the genuine fans...... To me proper footie violence is when sets of likeminded folk bash f**k out of each other...... not when organised firms of French/African/Russians steam at guys with their families and start kicking anyone up in the air who happens to be wearing an England shirt ! I agree we have got lads there who are pretending to live up to a reputation whos heart is not really in it and so maybe serves them right........im not sure if im a genuine fan or not i was well into all that nonsense years ago and to this day i,ll have a stand up with anybody but im f****d if im running round the streets like a teenager throwing chairs and tables about i go purely for the football these days but these Russians were simply not interested in who was a genuine fan and who wasnt. Edited June 14, 2016 by gnasher16 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) Most Russians and a lot of the old USSR states still retain Military national service so trained yes, either learn the lesson or be on the end of several arse kickings simple really Whats the lesson then chief ?.......dont go to watch a football match if you are English ? Are you a bit punchy ALF stick to talking boxing and football fantasies oh and canaries LOL What you having a pop at me for it was a simple enough question......or is that what you always do when you dont know what to say next. i am not having any pop no more than you are at me. As for the rules of gratuitous violence in a street fight there arent any, as a man of your claimed decades of experience would know. No Queensburies or referee the cobbles is not the place to mix it if people either dont know or are not willing to fight fire with fire the Russians as I said are trained they dont observe any genevas and are some of the most violent people you could meet not all but a hard core as for not knowing what to say next think that hat fits you better Alf Edited June 14, 2016 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,222 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 MIK I want England to do well and hopefully win something I also like to see Eire' Northern Ireland ' Scotland and Wales do well and cheer them on so long as they not playing the English. I reckon why Wales and Scotland ect can't do the Same is obviously down to a Inferiority Complex I want to see all the home nations do well, and I'm Scottish. And I don't feel inferior to any nation. You do talk some shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 After England I route for all the uk teams, then Belgium & I've got a soft spot for Spain.............it gets complicated...haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,872 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 MIK I want England to do well and hopefully win something I also like to see Eire' Northern Ireland ' Scotland and Wales do well and cheer them on so long as they not playing the English. I reckon why Wales and Scotland ect can't do the Same is obviously down to a Inferiority Complex well max, if any more violence with anything around english fans, disregard who starts what, we be out of the tournament deff , and i hate that , i just want to watch good game of football, not pissed up young+ old blokes fighting ..!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 England had better win on Thursday I have booked a day off work to watch the match in the pub 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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