hawki 1,431 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 In all fairness the players that play football in Ireland don't even tackle each other !! Don't be so Stupid wilf........ it doesn't suit you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,786 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 In all fairness the players that play football in Ireland don't even tackle each other !! Don't be so Stupid wilf........ it doesn't suit you I wasn't saying it to be a cock mate, from what I have seen its true. The standard of football here is much too gentlemanly by a long chalk......great, fit, skilful players but the physical side is like netball IMHO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,762 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 In all fairness the players that play football in Ireland don't even tackle each other !!Don't be so Stupid wilf........ it doesn't suit you I wasn't saying it to be a cock mate, from what I have seen its true. The standard of football here is much too gentlemanly by a long chalk......great, fit, skilful players but the physical side is like netball IMHO watch the gaa then 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,786 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 I wasn't talking about GAA mate, them lads are all strapping blokes I will freely admit. I was talking about football (or soccer as they call it.......fecking heathens !! Lol ) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Got told off a blade friend of mine about 500 English from various firms up and down the country got together and stormed in to the russians i took it with a pinch of salt when he told me on the phone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ftm 3,357 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 gnash hit nail on head - they doing what most of us did back in ,s apart from we never attacked ordinary fans [scarves] I dread to think of the outcome in 2 yrs time 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jiggy 3,209 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Why is it the english fans get in trouble at every major tournament and the irish dont after drinking just as much beer. They have similar cultures similiar beliefs and similiar countrys. Do the irish have an inferior complex and dont start sh1t because they were never a great nation or can the english just not hold their beer. At top gaelic football matches the opposition fans are all mixed in the stands and there is never any trouble a bit of banter but nothing violent. If you cant behave in someone elses country dont expect immigrants to behave in yours. I like english people why the need for a few yobs to f**k it up on everyone and be part of a firm. Just been reading through a few posts and not having a pop at you Jiggy or defending anything.....just answering your question. You say English and Irish have similar cultures.......but not within football they dont,far as im aware Ireland have never had any kind of terrace culture whatsoever......theres no point comparing to Gaelic Football or Rugby or other sports folk are inclined to compare to.... football violence was a culture that loads of young men went through it wasnt just about fighting it was about fashion,music loads of things......the scenes we have seen over the last few days with the Russians in my opinion is because they were so repressed for so long that they are only just picking up on stuff that most of Europe have long forgotten about.......similarly to how rap music is currently big with Russian youths.....they are 20 years behind with everything. maybe so but the likes of hillsborough disaster wouldnt have happened if fans could behave themselves its easy blame the police but if a certain faction of fans didnt behave like animals they wouldnt be fenced in like animals and innocent people lost their lives as a result. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Why is it the english fans get in trouble at every major tournament and the irish dont after drinking just as much beer. They have similar cultures similiar beliefs and similiar countrys. Do the irish have an inferior complex and dont start sh1t because they were never a great nation or can the english just not hold their beer. At top gaelic football matches the opposition fans are all mixed in the stands and there is never any trouble a bit of banter but nothing violent. If you cant behave in someone elses country dont expect immigrants to behave in yours. I like english people why the need for a few yobs to f**k it up on everyone and be part of a firm. Just been reading through a few posts and not having a pop at you Jiggy or defending anything.....just answering your question. You say English and Irish have similar cultures.......but not within football they dont,far as im aware Ireland have never had any kind of terrace culture whatsoever......theres no point comparing to Gaelic Football or Rugby or other sports folk are inclined to compare to.... football violence was a culture that loads of young men went through it wasnt just about fighting it was about fashion,music loads of things......the scenes we have seen over the last few days with the Russians in my opinion is because they were so repressed for so long that they are only just picking up on stuff that most of Europe have long forgotten about.......similarly to how rap music is currently big with Russian youths.....they are 20 years behind with everything. maybe so but the likes of hillsborough disaster wouldnt have happened if fans could behave themselves its easy blame the police but if a certain faction of fans didnt behave like animals they wouldnt be fenced in like animals and innocent people lost their lives as a result.After the inquest that cleared any fans of wrong doing and you still say that they're responsible.......disrespectful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,112 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Got told off a blade friend of mine about 500 English from various firms up and down the country got together and stormed in to the russians i took it with a pinch of salt when he told me on the phone. Your right to take it with a pinch of salt mate...its just never been the done thing for English fans to plot up together the only few times i ever remember it happening was when theres been some sort of nationalist element to it like there was at Lansdowne Road in 95 or Dusseldorf in 88 a lot of lads tried to unite for France 98 but its just seen as weak in this country....honestly mate those Russians were on another level to anything ive seen....for most of us it was all a bit of a laugh years ago but this is a different scale this Russian mob were like an army unit it was a completely different atmosphere they wasnt just a bunch of lads running round bashing up likeminded lads like we did back years ago this was just a basic lynch mob out to hurt and maim the general public. And when you think they have the world cup in 2 years time !!......it will be madness nobody will go.....as far as im aware we are the only country who have a specific police unit aimed purely at football hooligans,if I remember right the football intelligence unit was formed after the riots in Dusseldorf in 88 and became part of the National Criminal Intelligence Unit......which is why they can easily keep an eye on our fans but these Russian lads could be anyone from anywhere their police dont really even see it as a crime yet,their national papers reported what a great job they did for crying out loud !.....unless they take drastic action pretty quick i can see the next world cup being a complete disaster...fighting at football is one thing but this just wasnt that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,112 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 maybe so but the likes of hillsborough disaster wouldnt have happened if fans could behave themselves its easy blame the police but if a certain faction of fans didnt behave like animals they wouldnt be fenced in like animals and innocent people lost their lives as a result. Whats that got to do with the popular culture of fighting at football ?......if you dont know what your talking about mate dont just guess......thats just silly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 I heard on the radio the Russians look to have done martial arts and as well as being uniformed they are not drinking and are carrying gum Shields with them. Almost military like, I may go as far as saying it is possibly state sponsored. I also heard that ethnic Russian Ukrainians and Serbs could be joining forces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 I heard on the radio the Russians look to have done martial arts and as well as being uniformed they are not drinking and are carrying gum Shields with them. Almost military like, I may go as far as saying it is possibly state sponsored. I also heard that ethnic Russian Ukrainians and Serbs could be joining forces. Maybe not state sponsored but definitely approved of by the state and press, their papers have been hailing the Russian hooligans as heroes apparently. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Most Russians and a lot of the old USSR states still retain Military national service so trained yes, either learn the lesson or be on the end of several arse kickings simple really Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 How come half a dozen - Dozen English lads have been lifted ' one a 16 year old But not 1 Ruskie ?????! I say give Our lads their passports back and let them travel. Let's have a level playing field. After all the English - Brits did not start this but if they going to be blamed for the troubles over France ' Give England something to be blamed for. Is this the same guy that was getting his knickers in a right old twist calling for lifetime bans etc when a few West Ham fans threw some bottles at a coach? I thought you were a pacifist max 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 How come half a dozen - Dozen English lads have been lifted ' one a 16 year old But not 1 Ruskie ?????! I say give Our lads their passports back and let them travel. Let's have a level playing field. After all the English - Brits did not start this but if they going to be blamed for the troubles over France ' Give England something to be blamed for. Is this the same guy that was getting his knickers in a right old twist calling for lifetime bans etc when a few West Ham fans threw some bottles at a coach? I thought you were a pacifist max The one thing I've noticed about this forum thingy.......is the ones that post the most often contradict themselves the most, they can't keep up with their own views! Haha..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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