Creationism Vs Evolution

[Lenmcharristar 9,843]

I had some jehovos come to mine quite abit so I started asking questions. They always tried to baffle me with bullshit instead of dazzle me with brilliance so I wasn't to impressed. Was like talking to a politician never getting a straight answer

my brothers mate invites them in and grills the Shiite outa them, and all the time they talk he just shakes his head in disgust then says why are you called jehovas witness? You are not 2000 yrs old so you witnessed fcuk all you lying heathens now get to feck out of my house

[TOMO 26,483]

 

 

Got to agree with Wilf on this.

Everything we have here on earth and in the universe is far to beautiful and complex to have started from a bang .

What was here before the bang ?

Nothing ?

There is no such thing as nothing

Nothing is actually something

How did that nothingness get there before the Big Bang ?

I believe in God but I also think maybe folk engineered how he would expect people to behave and live re the bible

There will be some lies in there

The politicians of the day will have seen to that to suit their agenda

I also believe in some pagan beliefs

Ie look after Mother Earth and it will look after us.

I think some Buddhist teachings are sensible and a good way to live your life and treat people and animals as well as the earth with respect.

And because of the above I don't think the Big feller will hold that against me.

Big Bang THEORY

Or maybe bullshite ?

Yes ,,nail on the head there max,,,I said it on another thread not long ago,,,,,NOTHING,,,,us humans can't and won't accept NOTHING....hear lies the problem,,,and thats why you lot believe ,,,,you can't accept "NOTHING" is what happens to us when we die...we are no difrent any other animal in that respect,,,when we die,,,that's it..

I just find it so hard to believe good chaps intelligent fellas like some of you on these sites believes ,,,it blows my mind it really does,,,,

but you believe that we just switch off like a light and into nothing, what about reincarnations? How can we kids who've not experienced a lot recall events from the past in past lives? The way I see it God created everything, but it's far bigger and more complex than humans can decipher and certainly not crack the code used by God in a science lab.

I don't believe those story's ,,,,there not that common,,and very few people say they have them,,,have you been reincarnated ?....and let's suppose they are true,,,,,they wouldn't prove the excistance of God

[kanny 20,667]

I've said before I don't buy into the biblical version of events and I very much support evolution BUT underneath it all there does seem to be intelligent design throughout the universe there was just so much that had to be perfect just for universe to be here and that opens a whole new can of worms like multiple universes... I find the "golden ratio" very interesting it's a pattern that's found throughout the universe like a underwritten code on how to build stuff even our advertisers and manufacturers use it to make things more appealing to us.

[mushroom 13,186]

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is no way any of us can ever know one way or the other, at least while we are 'alive'.

so what about the people who have died and come back??? All their stories say very similar events happening, what about the cokeville miracle???

What ,,heading towards a bright light.....

Everybody knows that story,,,,,and because we all know it,,,it's a common story in other words,,we end up telling the same story if we nearly die

Let me put it better.....

If we started a new story of nearly dying,,,,let's say heading towards a red light,,,I bet if enough people came up with that story,,,you would start a new story of heading towards a red light....

At the end of life there is obviously some Brian activity in the moments just befor death,,,and just after,,possibly just milli seconds,,,,but enough time to dream ,,,or imagin.

DMT is released by the brain in the dying moments and explains ALL near death experiences. It is one of the most potent hallucinogens in existence.

so what about outer body experiences? How can people who are clinically dead then get brought back recall events and are able to describe people who entered the room after they died ??

He just has explained ,,,the DMT being released ,,,

All these story's are the same,,,leaving the body ,,going towards a light,,,life flashing befor our eyes,,,all the same...how come nobody says the played football ,,or some other random thing....

dont buy that, dmt does not have eyes it's a chemical, so how can a chemical predict correctly what happened after death and before resuscitation??? I believe it's the soul leaving the body

 

I've had outer body experiences off Acid, Dots and shrooms! DMT kicks their asses by a factor of a million in regards to strength and effect

[neems 2,406]

Evolution is the truth,there's no denying that now.

 

That doesn't necessarily mean there was no creator of any type though.

[mushroom 13,186]

I've said before I don't buy into the biblical version of events and I very much support evolution BUT underneath it all there does seem to be intelligent design throughout the universe there was just so much that had to be perfect just for universe to be here and that opens a whole new can of worms like multiple universes... I find the "golden ratio" very interesting it's a pattern that's found throughout the universe like a underwritten code on how to build stuff even our advertisers and manufacturers use it to make things more appealing to us.

If I melt lead/steel/etc and pour the the molten metal down a high drop it will pool on the way down to create BB's. No order in it at the beginning it's simple physics in action on the drop to bring order at the bottom. The universe isn't uniformly ordered. and where there is order it has taken millions of years to stabilise to that order.

[kanny 20,667]

So Tomo what was here before the Big Bang ?

If Nothing what is nothing

Explain nothing !

There is no such thing

Nothing has to be something

Your good mate Paddy believed in the big feller and wasn't afraid of death.

Iv still got his texts from around a week before he passed.

Time began with the birth of the universe so how could there be anything before the big bang how could something exist without time?

[TOMO 26,483]

So Tomo what was here before the Big Bang ?

If Nothing what is nothing

Explain nothing !

There is no such thing

Nothing has to be something

Your good mate Paddy believed in the big feller and wasn't afraid of death.

Iv still got his texts from around a week before he passed.

So Tomo what was here before the Big Bang ?

If Nothing what is nothing

Explain nothing !

There is no such thing

Nothing has to be something

Your good mate Paddy believed in the big feller and wasn't afraid of death.

Iv still got his texts from around a week before he passed.

You see all you have done is enforced what I said,,,,you can't get your head around " NOTHING"

 

And that's a stupid question what is nothing,,,,,,lol,,,,,let me give you a clue,,,,,N..

 

Another good example of nothing,,,is what's in my bank acount...lol

 

As for paddy ,,,he didn't used to believe mate,,,we had many a conversation about it,,driving up north,,,,but we can all change our mind,,,I dare say the knowing your time was drawing close,,might make the best of us change our mind,,,it's proberbly more to do with hope

Edited June 8, 2016 by TOMO

[Lenmcharristar 9,843]

 

I've said before I don't buy into the biblical version of events and I very much support evolution BUT underneath it all there does seem to be intelligent design throughout the universe there was just so much that had to be perfect just for universe to be here and that opens a whole new can of worms like multiple universes... I find the "golden ratio" very interesting it's a pattern that's found throughout the universe like a underwritten code on how to build stuff even our advertisers and manufacturers use it to make things more appealing to us.

 

If I melt lead/steel/etc and pour the the molten metal down a high drop it will pool on the way down to create BB's. No order in it at the beginning it's simple physics in action on the drop to bring order at the bottom. The universe isn't uniformly ordered. and where there is order it has taken millions of years to stabilise to that order.

everywhere science looks points to a creator, for the deeper they look the more they see intelligence and advanced at that, superior to us that we can't even scratch the surface of the divine intelligence that is God, he will let us see a miracle every now n then but never even get close to where the truth really is,

[Lenmcharristar 9,843]

 

So Tomo what was here before the Big Bang ?

If Nothing what is nothing

Explain nothing !

There is no such thing

Nothing has to be something

Your good mate Paddy believed in the big feller and wasn't afraid of death.

Iv still got his texts from around a week before he passed.

So Tomo what was here before the Big Bang ?

If Nothing what is nothing

Explain nothing !

There is no such thing

Nothing has to be something

Your good mate Paddy believed in the big feller and wasn't afraid of death.

Iv still got his texts from around a week before he passed.

You see all you have done is enforced what I said,,,,you can't get your head around " NOTHING"

And that's a stupid question what is nothing,,,,,,lol,,,,,let me give you a clue,,,,,N..

Another good example of nothing,,,is what's in my bank acount...lol

As for paddy ,,,he didn't used to believe mate,,,we had many a conversation about it,,driving up north,,,,but we can all change our mind,,,I dare say the knowing your time was drawing close,,might make the best of us change our mind,,,it's proberbly more to do with hope

right so nothing means zero, not an existence so if there was zero what banged?? For there to be a Big Bang something had to ignite and fuel it, so there has to have been something where there was nothing, and that something is divine

[Lenmcharristar 9,843]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is no way any of us can ever know one way or the other, at least while we are 'alive'.

 

so what about the people who have died and come back??? All their stories say very similar events happening, what about the cokeville miracle???

What ,,heading towards a bright light.....

Everybody knows that story,,,,,and because we all know it,,,it's a common story in other words,,we end up telling the same story if we nearly die

Let me put it better.....

If we started a new story of nearly dying,,,,let's say heading towards a red light,,,I bet if enough people came up with that story,,,you would start a new story of heading towards a red light....

At the end of life there is obviously some Brian activity in the moments just befor death,,,and just after,,possibly just milli seconds,,,,but enough time to dream ,,,or imagin.

DMT is released by the brain in the dying moments and explains ALL near death experiences. It is one of the most potent hallucinogens in existence.

so what about outer body experiences? How can people who are clinically dead then get brought back recall events and are able to describe people who entered the room after they died ??

He just has explained ,,,the DMT being released ,,,

All these story's are the same,,,leaving the body ,,going towards a light,,,life flashing befor our eyes,,,all the same...how come nobody says the played football ,,or some other random thing....

dont buy that, dmt does not have eyes it's a chemical, so how can a chemical predict correctly what happened after death and before resuscitation??? I believe it's the soul leaving the body

I've had outer body experiences off Acid, Dots and shrooms! DMT kicks their asses by a factor of a million in regards to strength and effect

the only outer body experience you had as a big black cock coming outa yours,

[Astanley 11,568]

Go on Tomos wild camping thread ,look at the photo of him .....now tell me there is a god

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

Natures is to complex to have been designed imo, for a long time now ive had my own theory that theres cells floating round space, on comets etc waiting to land somewere capable of sustaining life and the process then begins.

[gnasher16 30,274]

 

Yes ,,nail on the head there max,,,I said it on another thread not long ago,,,,,NOTHING,,,,us humans can't and won't accept NOTHING....hear lies the problem,,,and thats why you lot believe ,,,,you can't accept "NOTHING" is what happens to us when we die...we are no difrent any other animal in that respect,,,when we die,,,that's it..

 

I just find it so hard to believe good chaps intelligent fellas like some of you on these sites believes ,,,it blows my mind it really does,,,,

 

Likewise.....it blows my mind to believe that good intelligent fellas like some of you could believe something can come from that nothing...........................and round the merry go round we go.

[Francie 6,368]

No sense arguing with them len, theyll make every excuse in the world, they just dont want to accept theres a creator, an he has rules, an they dont like that?

 

Nothing exploded, il say it again, nothing exploded, an here we are, lol how dumb do you have to be to beleive that, I mean nothing exploded, haha

 

Its physically impossible, proven time an time again, nothing is nothing, so how can that explode, no they cant answer that?