mushroom 12,894 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 There is no way any of us can ever know one way or the other, at least while we are 'alive'.so what about the people who have died and come back??? All their stories say very similar events happening, what about the cokeville miracle???What ,,heading towards a bright light..... Everybody knows that story,,,,,and because we all know it,,,it's a common story in other words,,we end up telling the same story if we nearly die Let me put it better..... If we started a new story of nearly dying,,,,let's say heading towards a red light,,,I bet if enough people came up with that story,,,you would start a new story of heading towards a red light.... At the end of life there is obviously some Brian activity in the moments just befor death,,,and just after,,possibly just milli seconds,,,,but enough time to dream ,,,or imagin. DMT is released by the brain in the dying moments and explains ALL near death experiences. It is one of the most potent hallucinogens in existence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,748 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Even those at that place in Switzerland ,,that headron or whatever it's called,,,,say they are looking for the so called God particle Actually mate, from what I have seen most of them hate the term. The Higgs boson was found, but it's certainly no alternate explanation for a god. That's media spin. yea the Higgs boson particle that travels faster than the speed of light? Then if it's def true then Einstein theory that 186000 m/s is the top speed at which anything can travel, unless going through a worm hole Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,748 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 There is no way any of us can ever know one way or the other, at least while we are 'alive'.so what about the people who have died and come back??? All their stories say very similar events happening, what about the cokeville miracle???What ,,heading towards a bright light.....Everybody knows that story,,,,,and because we all know it,,,it's a common story in other words,,we end up telling the same story if we nearly die Let me put it better..... If we started a new story of nearly dying,,,,let's say heading towards a red light,,,I bet if enough people came up with that story,,,you would start a new story of heading towards a red light.... At the end of life there is obviously some Brian activity in the moments just befor death,,,and just after,,possibly just milli seconds,,,,but enough time to dream ,,,or imagin. DMT is released by the brain in the dying moments and explains ALL near death experiences. It is one of the most potent hallucinogens in existence. so what about outer body experiences? How can people who are clinically dead then get brought back recall events and are able to describe people who entered the room after they died ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,109 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 There is no way any of us can ever know one way or the other, at least while we are 'alive'.so what about the people who have died and come back??? All their stories say very similar events happening, what about the cokeville miracle???What ,,heading towards a bright light.....Everybody knows that story,,,,,and because we all know it,,,it's a common story in other words,,we end up telling the same story if we nearly die Let me put it better..... If we started a new story of nearly dying,,,,let's say heading towards a red light,,,I bet if enough people came up with that story,,,you would start a new story of heading towards a red light.... At the end of life there is obviously some Brian activity in the moments just befor death,,,and just after,,possibly just milli seconds,,,,but enough time to dream ,,,or imagin. DMT is released by the brain in the dying moments and explains ALL near death experiences. It is one of the most potent hallucinogens in existence. Yes it's my belief that at this point,,,is heaven,,,,those few moments,,when they say we travel to a bright light or see our hole life flash befor our eyes ,,,,that is heaven Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,109 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 There is no way any of us can ever know one way or the other, at least while we are 'alive'.so what about the people who have died and come back??? All their stories say very similar events happening, what about the cokeville miracle???What ,,heading towards a bright light.....Everybody knows that story,,,,,and because we all know it,,,it's a common story in other words,,we end up telling the same story if we nearly die Let me put it better..... If we started a new story of nearly dying,,,,let's say heading towards a red light,,,I bet if enough people came up with that story,,,you would start a new story of heading towards a red light.... At the end of life there is obviously some Brian activity in the moments just befor death,,,and just after,,possibly just milli seconds,,,,but enough time to dream ,,,or imagin. DMT is released by the brain in the dying moments and explains ALL near death experiences. It is one of the most potent hallucinogens in existence. so what about outer body experiences? How can people who are clinically dead then get brought back recall events and are able to describe people who entered the room after they died ?? He just has explained ,,,the DMT being released ,,, All these story's are the same,,,leaving the body ,,going towards a light,,,life flashing befor our eyes,,,all the same...how come nobody says the played football ,,or some other random thing.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) Even those at that place in Switzerland ,,that headron or whatever it's called,,,,say they are looking for the so called God particle Actually mate, from what I have seen most of them hate the term. The Higgs boson was found, but it's certainly no alternate explanation for a god. That's media spin. yea the Higgs boson particle that travels faster than the speed of light? Then if it's def true then Einstein theory that 186000 m/s is the top speed at which anything can travel, unless going through a worm hole The Higgs Boson is not superluminous, you're mistaken there mate. It's just a particle that was predicted by what we call 'the standard model' that had not been found. By finding this predicted particle it added a huge amount of support to proving the theory correct. That's why it was so important. If I recall Einstein postulated that nothing could travel at the speed of light, not that nothing could travel faster. Essentially it's a barrier of infinite resistance, like an impenetrable wall. Might be wrong on that though.... Edited June 8, 2016 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,748 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Even those at that place in Switzerland ,,that headron or whatever it's called,,,,say they are looking for the so called God particle Actually mate, from what I have seen most of them hate the term. The Higgs boson was found, but it's certainly no alternate explanation for a god. That's media spin. yea the Higgs boson particle that travels faster than the speed of light? Then if it's def true then Einstein theory that 186000 m/s is the top speed at which anything can travel, unless going through a worm hole The Higgs Boson is not superluminous, you're mistaken there mate. It's just a particle that was predicted by what we call 'the standard model' that had not been found. By finding this predicted particle it added a huge amount of support to proving the theory correct. That's why it was so important. If I recall Einstein postulated that nothing could travel at the speed of light, not that nothing could travel faster. Essentially it's a barrier of infinite resistance, like an impenetrable wall. Might be wrong on that though.... yes so the Higgs boson did it not arrive before it was ment to by traveling at the speed of light?? Which in a way it travelled faster than light Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Even those at that place in Switzerland ,,that headron or whatever it's called,,,,say they are looking for the so called God particle Actually mate, from what I have seen most of them hate the term. The Higgs boson was found, but it's certainly no alternate explanation for a god. That's media spin. yea the Higgs boson particle that travels faster than the speed of light? Then if it's def true then Einstein theory that 186000 m/s is the top speed at which anything can travel, unless going through a worm hole The Higgs Boson is not superluminous, you're mistaken there mate. It's just a particle that was predicted by what we call 'the standard model' that had not been found. By finding this predicted particle it added a huge amount of support to proving the theory correct. That's why it was so important. If I recall Einstein postulated that nothing could travel at the speed of light, not that nothing could travel faster. Essentially it's a barrier of infinite resistance, like an impenetrable wall. Might be wrong on that though.... yes so the Higgs boson did it not arrive before it was ment to by traveling at the speed of light?? Which in a way it travelled faster than light No mate, that was some other experiment. They are doing all sorts of shit at CERN. Anyway I'm fairly sure that claim was a cock up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,748 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 There is no way any of us can ever know one way or the other, at least while we are 'alive'.so what about the people who have died and come back??? All their stories say very similar events happening, what about the cokeville miracle???What ,,heading towards a bright light.....Everybody knows that story,,,,,and because we all know it,,,it's a common story in other words,,we end up telling the same story if we nearly die Let me put it better..... If we started a new story of nearly dying,,,,let's say heading towards a red light,,,I bet if enough people came up with that story,,,you would start a new story of heading towards a red light.... At the end of life there is obviously some Brian activity in the moments just befor death,,,and just after,,possibly just milli seconds,,,,but enough time to dream ,,,or imagin. DMT is released by the brain in the dying moments and explains ALL near death experiences. It is one of the most potent hallucinogens in existence. so what about outer body experiences? How can people who are clinically dead then get brought back recall events and are able to describe people who entered the room after they died ?? He just has explained ,,,the DMT being released ,,, All these story's are the same,,,leaving the body ,,going towards a light,,,life flashing befor our eyes,,,all the same...how come nobody says the played football ,,or some other random thing.... dont buy that, dmt does not have eyes it's a chemical, so how can a chemical predict correctly what happened after death and before resuscitation??? I believe it's the soul leaving the body Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,748 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Even those at that place in Switzerland ,,that headron or whatever it's called,,,,say they are looking for the so called God particle Actually mate, from what I have seen most of them hate the term. The Higgs boson was found, but it's certainly no alternate explanation for a god. That's media spin. yea the Higgs boson particle that travels faster than the speed of light? Then if it's def true then Einstein theory that 186000 m/s is the top speed at which anything can travel, unless going through a worm hole The Higgs Boson is not superluminous, you're mistaken there mate. It's just a particle that was predicted by what we call 'the standard model' that had not been found. By finding this predicted particle it added a huge amount of support to proving the theory correct. That's why it was so important. If I recall Einstein postulated that nothing could travel at the speed of light, not that nothing could travel faster. Essentially it's a barrier of infinite resistance, like an impenetrable wall. Might be wrong on that though.... yes so the Higgs boson did it not arrive before it was ment to by traveling at the speed of light?? Which in a way it travelled faster than light No mate, that was some other experiment. They are doing all sorts of shit at CERN. Anyway I'm fairly sure that claim was a cock up. im no expert but stuff like this intrests me, lol, but they're trying to prove God exists in there, or if he does not. All the stuff about miniature black holes, how can they tell ? A black hole has so much pull and is so dense that even a miniscule version would be enough to destroy all around it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 The faster an object travels the mass increase is massive. The more energy you put into it the more mass it produces, making it less effective at speeding up. At or near light speed any extra energy you put into an object doesn't make it any faster it just increases its mass. You would need an infinite amount of energy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lid 194 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 My point remains, there is no way any of us can know one way or another even if we have had things such as near death and out-of-body experiences. I maintain that I have seen a ghost twice, and nothing will convince me that I did not. However when I tell the story, many people quite rightly do not believe it, and even I still keep an open mind as to what I really may or may not have have seen. On the specific subject of creationism and evolution, there is no reason to consider them mutually exclusive at all. If there is a God, It would probably exist outside of time (indeed It would have made time) and so the concept f evolution taking a long time is irrelevant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,109 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Got to agree with Wilf on this. Everything we have here on earth and in the universe is far to beautiful and complex to have started from a bang . What was here before the bang ? Nothing ? There is no such thing as nothing Nothing is actually something How did that nothingness get there before the Big Bang ? I believe in God but I also think maybe folk engineered how he would expect people to behave and live re the bible There will be some lies in there The politicians of the day will have seen to that to suit their agenda I also believe in some pagan beliefs Ie look after Mother Earth and it will look after us. I think some Buddhist teachings are sensible and a good way to live your life and treat people and animals as well as the earth with respect. And because of the above I don't think the Big feller will hold that against me. Big Bang THEORY Or maybe bullshite ? Yes ,,nail on the head there max,,,I said it on another thread not long ago,,,,,NOTHING,,,,us humans can't and won't accept NOTHING....hear lies the problem,,,and thats why you lot believe ,,,,you can't accept "NOTHING" is what happens to us when we die...we are no difrent any other animal in that respect,,,when we die,,,that's it.. I just find it so hard to believe good chaps intelligent fellas like some of you on these sites believes ,,,it blows my mind it really does,,,, 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barbarian1990 220 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I had some jehovos come to mine quite abit so I started asking questions. They always tried to baffle me with bullshit instead of dazzle me with brilliance so I wasn't to impressed. Was like talking to a politician never getting a straight answer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,748 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Got to agree with Wilf on this. Everything we have here on earth and in the universe is far to beautiful and complex to have started from a bang . What was here before the bang ? Nothing ? There is no such thing as nothing Nothing is actually something How did that nothingness get there before the Big Bang ? I believe in God but I also think maybe folk engineered how he would expect people to behave and live re the bible There will be some lies in there The politicians of the day will have seen to that to suit their agenda I also believe in some pagan beliefs Ie look after Mother Earth and it will look after us. I think some Buddhist teachings are sensible and a good way to live your life and treat people and animals as well as the earth with respect. And because of the above I don't think the Big feller will hold that against me. Big Bang THEORY Or maybe bullshite ? Yes ,,nail on the head there max,,,I said it on another thread not long ago,,,,,NOTHING,,,,us humans can't and won't accept NOTHING....hear lies the problem,,,and thats why you lot believe ,,,,you can't accept "NOTHING" is what happens to us when we die...we are no difrent any other animal in that respect,,,when we die,,,that's it.. I just find it so hard to believe good chaps intelligent fellas like some of you on these sites believes ,,,it blows my mind it really does,,,, but you believe that we just switch off like a light and into nothing, what about reincarnations? How can we kids who've not experienced a lot recall events from the past in past lives? The way I see it God created everything, but it's far bigger and more complex than humans can decipher and certainly not crack the code used by God in a science lab. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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