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Serious question for Francie here.

As there are however many religions in the world, is each religion arrogant enough to think they are the only ones that are correct and all the other religions and non-religions are wrong?

Are they all worshipping the same god under different guises?

Or does it all boil down to personal opinion rather than indoctrination?

I watched a video the other day of Richard Dawkins chatting with Father George Coyne of the Catholic Church. Dawkins asked Coyne "Do you really believe in the virgin birth?" Coyne gave (IMO) a refreshingly good answer. He said "Whether i believe in it or not, doesn't make it true or not."

Why you asking me this for, im not a philosopher ye know mate, thought your big smart science brain could answer that for you, why you asking silly old God beleiver:)

Surely you don't have to be philosopher to answer a question about your beliefs. My big science brain tells me they are all deluded, but that doesn't make it so.

Ok so you havent read the bible but dismiss it, fair enough, did you look at the link, the bible knew science before it was even thought off, but you stick to your ignorance mate. Edited by Francie
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I feel it necessary to point out that nowhere in mainstream science does anything claim that the universe came from nothing. The Big Bang Theory explains what happened in the time when the universe wa

I disagree for folk like me who have an inquisitive nature i never get tired of reading different folks views on things like this thats how we learn isnt it......it must get tiresome for folk who thin

Yes ,,nail on the head there max,,,I said it on another thread not long ago,,,,,NOTHING,,,,us humans can't and won't accept NOTHING....hear lies the problem,,,and thats why you lot believe ,,,,you can

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I have read the bible.Back in the day we had to do RI at school. My Mother was very religious.

 

No I didn't look at the link, but here's a couple of contradictions hastily googled as the only one I could think of was an eye for an eye, vs turn the other cheek.

 

Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. —Proverbs 26:4

Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. —Proverbs 26:5

Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth: —Proverbs 24:17

The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked. —Psalms 58:1

Thou shalt not kill. —Exodus 20:13

Thus sayeth the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side. and slay every man his brother…companion…neighbor.Exodus 32:27

No man hath seen God at any time. —John 1:18

For I have seen God face to face. —Genesis 32:30

It doesn't really matter to me why they contradict, but if it was something I took literally as some do, I would want to know so I could know which was the right and wrong thing to do.

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Creation is made of particles, indiscernible to our eyes (Hebrews 11:3). Not until the 19th century was it discovered that all visible matter consists of invisible elements.

 

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All About Atoms (Jefferson Lab)

 

Is this true or false walshie?

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Creation is made of particles, indiscernible to our eyes (Hebrews 11:3). Not until the 19th century was it discovered that all visible matter consists of invisible elements.

 

Visit:

All About Atoms (Jefferson Lab)

 

Is this true or false walshie?

 

True I guess, but everything is made of something. That doesn't mean anything unless you choose to make it fit.

 

Over to you for your explanation of the contradictions above....

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Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Proverbs 26:4

Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. Proverbs 26:5

 

Were do you see a contradiction here, if you answer a fool, your a fool, second proverb means if you answer to his folly you give him much pride

 

Wheres the contradiction walshie?.do you not know what conceit means?

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A very modern reason for GBs demise is the fact most don't believe in religion, thus leaving a vacuum for the riotous pedo, cry racism at every chance Muslims and shitslam, look at what decade it all started, the 90s or the 00s, equal rights for poofs etc all against the bible, also the bible says take your bows, spears and nets and go feed your families, which means our God given right to hunt, fish etc, but it's all went Pete tong since we've lost touch with religion

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Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Proverbs 26:4

Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. Proverbs 26:5

 

Were do you see a contradiction here, if you answer a fool, your a fool, second proverb means if you answer to his folly you give him much pride

 

Wheres the contradiction walshie?.

 

They are complete opposites.

 

Pick another.

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Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Proverbs 26:4

Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. Proverbs 26:5

 

Were do you see a contradiction here, if you answer a fool, your a fool, second proverb means if you answer to his folly you give him much pride

 

Wheres the contradiction walshie?.

They are complete opposites.

 

Pick another.

How are they opposite, do you not understand english mate, I could go through all your contradictions, an explain them, but you still wont accept it, so im wasting my breath.

 

All these supposed contradictions have all.been pulled apart already, I dont need to do it, if you read the chapters in context youl find out for yourself.

 

Youve admitted already that you havent read it, your nust taking stuff from google, lol ok mate

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Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Proverbs 26:4

Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. Proverbs 26:5

 

Were do you see a contradiction here, if you answer a fool, your a fool, second proverb means if you answer to his folly you give him much pride

 

Wheres the contradiction walshie?.

They are complete opposites.

 

Pick another.

No no, were not passing the first, ok laymans terms, lol if you answer a fool, your a fool, an you give them pride, is that hard to get your head round.

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Creation is made of particles, indiscernible to our eyes (Hebrews 11:3). Not until the 19th century was it discovered that all visible matter consists of invisible elements.

 

Visit:

All About Atoms (Jefferson Lab)

 

Is this true or false walshie?

True I guess, but everything is made of something. That doesn't mean anything unless you choose to make it fit.

 

Over to you for your explanation of the contradictions above....

Waaaa, that doesnt mean anything, unless you choose to make it fit, lol you said its true.

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The Bible specifies the perfect dimensions for a stable water vessel (Genesis 6:15). Ship builders today are well aware that the ideal dimension for ship stability is a length six times that of the width. Keep in mind, God told Noah the ideal dimensions for the ark 4,500 years ago.

 

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The Arks perfect dimensions (Answers In Genesis)

Safety investigation of Noahs Ark in a seaway (Answers In Genesis)

Noahs Flood

 

Is this true or false walshie?

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Sanitation industry birthed (Deuteronomy 23:12-13). Some 3,500 years ago God commanded His people to have a place outside the camp where they could relieve themselves. They were to each carry a shovel so that they could dig a hole (latrine) and cover their waste. Up until World War I, more soldiers died from disease than war because they did not isolate human waste.

 

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The First Book Of Public Hygiene (Answers In Genesis)

Modern medicine? (Answers In Genesis)

 

How about this one walshie?

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Oceans contain springs (Job 38:16). The ocean is very deep. Almost all the ocean floor is in total darkness and the pressure there is enormous. It would have been impossible for Job to have explored the "springs of the sea." Until recently, it was thought that oceans were fed only by rivers and rain. Yet in the 1970s, with the help of deep diving research submarines that were constructed to withstand 6,000 pounds-per-square-inch pressure, oceanographers discovered springs on the ocean floors!

 

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Or this, I taking the dogs out, this is getting stupid.

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The simple fact of the matter Francie is I don't have to prove anything. I don't believe in that mumbo-jumbo and nothing will make me change that. Unfortunately this started off as a decent debate but has ended as usual, with you assuming everyone who doesn't believe is an idiot.

 

Digging a hole to shit in? Wow there really MUST be a god. FFS.

 

Anyway I'll leave it there for now. Please direct your questions to someone who cares. :thumbs:

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Well stop f***ing asking me too walshie, an stop your lies, I never called anyone an idiot, who doesnt beleive what I beleive, its your attitude that wrecked it, im laughing the whole way threw, but you cant take, what your dishing out.

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