Creationism Vs Evolution

[DogFox123 1,379]

You'd have to be just as crazy to believe everything we know of including time itself was created by something smaller than an Atom than to believe the stories of the bible.

 

Evolution doesn't prove there wasn't a creator in the first place anyway. It's something mankind will never know I believe.

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

 

 

Ok so molten rock, explain it to me then.

What map are you looking at, the continents are still joined, theres vaults line around the world were lava came out.

So which parts of the continent floated around on the molten , the part above the seas, dry land, or the paet under the sea? Or both.

Do you know what happens when continents move, an earthquake, one continents go under theother, or vice versa, they do not float about, plus do you know what your theory says, if continents were floating about, how big would the earthquakes be, nothing like weve ever seen before, iI doubt the animals would survive it.

They are moving over billions of years, maybe just cm per year.

Thats my point, billions of years, fairytale no proof, at the end of the day we could do this until were blue in the face, the two views are BELEIFS, you have to BELEIVE, theres no concrete evidence for either, so have faith in your religion.

No you have to have faith because you have decided to believe something with no evidence or basis in reality, I have views based on facts

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

And you cant have it both ways if the continental plates dont move then whst causes quakes? And dont say gods wrath

[paulus 26]

creation. mix flour and water and you have created glue refine that glue and its evolution big bang = creation, time = evolution God = mans nature to control or believe there has to be more

[The Seeker 3,048]

I sometimes find it strange when I talk to people who just dismiss the possibility of a creator. I've held my hand up on many of these threads and admitted yes I'm one of the so called weirdos who I would suggest have Christian Beliefs.

 

Let me say I LOVE science it was the only subject a school other than history I had any interest in, I'm astounded by how much we know about the world we live in but Im also wise enough to understand how little we know also.

 

People ask how do I know there is a God, well I've not blindly woke up one morning and thought I know I will become a Christian, I've thought long and hard, read a lot and spoken to dozens of people (the pram on the roof thing was one of many) my answer is this.

 

If I could provide unlimited resource, as much money as needed, the best laboratories in the world and as many top scientists you could have could they create from nothing something that provides life? Not breading bacteria under a microscope I mean actually create life could they do it?

 

Its not there is no lab or scientific evidence that can prove life arrived from non life, cell theory and bio-genesis state life cannot arise from something that is not living. There is a funny statement that says the chances of amino acids randomly aligning to form a single living cell is the same as a tornado storm randomly forming a 747 jumbo jet.

 

The laws of Conservation of Mass and Energy say that nothing can be created from nothing (energy can neither be created or destroyed) so how is a creator so ridiculous?

 

Many in the science community believe in the "primordial soup" which is heat triggered chemicals forming molecules which washed into the ocean,so if you think my version is crazy they think we came from soup Incidentally when this experiment was tried in the same conditions.........it didn't work........the excuse was ancient oceans and conditions must have been different to today's.

 

So creator or soup you decide, I know what i think and if you think any less of me for that then that's fine

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

I sometimes find it strange when I talk to people who just dismiss the possibility of a creator. I've held my hand up on many of these threads and admitted yes I'm one of the so called weirdos who I would suggest have Christian Beliefs.

 

Let me say I LOVE science it was the only subject a school other than history I had any interest in, I'm astounded by how much we know about the world we live in but Im also wise enough to understand how little we know also.

 

People ask how do I know there is a God, well I've not blindly woke up one morning and thought I know I will become a Christian, I've thought long and hard, read a lot and spoken to dozens of people (the pram on the roof thing was one of many) my answer is this.

 

If I could provide unlimited resource, as much money as needed, the best laboratories in the world and as many top scientists you could have could they create from nothing something that provides life? Not breading bacteria under a microscope I mean actually create life could they do it?

 

Its not there is no lab or scientific evidence that can prove life arrived from non life, cell theory and bio-genesis state life cannot arise from something that is not living. There is a funny statement that says the chances of amino acids randomly aligning to form a single living cell is the same as a tornado storm randomly forming a 747 jumbo jet.

 

The laws of Conservation of Mass and Energy say that nothing can be created from nothing (energy can neither be created or destroyed) so how is a creator so ridiculous?

 

Many in the science community believe in the "primordial soup" which is heat triggered chemicals forming molecules which washed into the ocean,so if you think my version is crazy they think we came from soup Incidentally when this experiment was tried in the same conditions.........it didn't work........the excuse was ancient oceans and conditions must have been different to today's.

 

So creator or soup you decide, I know what i think and if you think any less of me for that then that's fine

 

so what created the creator? even if you believe in the creator theories at some point something mustve evolved. theres billions of planets and theyve been there for trillions of years so yes on that scale in that timeframe i believe molecule could have randomly formed to make DNA. I could accept creationism in the sense that another lifeform sent out organisms designed to adapt to whatever suitable conditions they arrive in or something but not that everything on earth was planned and designed as it is but even then how did the alien lifeform get created in the first place.and without getting to philosophical what is life really? its just molecules organised together to make something the same as water or rocks etc

Edited June 10, 2016 by JDHUNTING

[VOON 1,317]

Put quite simply.

Looks like Sharon Osborne

[tinytiger 828]

 

 

 

There is no way any of us can ever know one way or the other, at least while we are 'alive'.

so what about the people who have died and come back??? All their stories say very similar events happening, what about the cokeville miracle???

What ,,heading towards a bright light.....

 

Everybody knows that story,,,,,and because we all know it,,,it's a common story in other words,,we end up telling the same story if we nearly die

 

Let me put it better.....

 

If we started a new story of nearly dying,,,,let's say heading towards a red light,,,I bet if enough people came up with that story,,,you would start a new story of heading towards a red light....

 

At the end of life there is obviously some Brian activity in the moments just befor death,,,and just after,,possibly just milli seconds,,,,but enough time to dream ,,,or imagin.

DMT is released by the brain in the dying moments and explains ALL near death experiences. It is one of the most potent hallucinogens in existence.

but why do hallucinations exist-what is the evolutionary purpose of "tripping balls"

[Lenmcharristar 9,747]

And you cant have it both ways if the continental plates dont move then whst causes quakes? And dont say gods wrath

one of the big factors of the truth behind the bible was the Rosetta Stone and the historical events recorded in the bible and the discovery of the ancient Egyptians tombs and the pharaohs, you can cross reference lots of events from the bible and the evidence is there to back it up, so it's likely that the rest is true too

[Barbarian1990 220]

I've always found religious people talk to you like politicians, never a straight answer and lots of answering queustions with a question. Not to be trusted ??

[The Seeker 3,048]

so what created the creator? even if you believe in the creator theories at some point something mustve evolved. theres billions of planets and theyve been there for trillions of years so yes on that scale in that timeframe i believe molecule could have randomly formed to make DNA. I could accept creationism in the sense that another lifeform sent out organisms designed to adapt to whatever suitable conditions they arrive in or something but not that everything on earth was planned and designed as it is but even then how did the alien lifeform get created in the first place.and without getting to philosophical what is life really? its just molecules organised together to make something the same as water or rocks etc

 

Yep fair question and one I thought about many times, IMO God wasn't created as he is the creator of all life, we simply do not have the ability to understand how this is just like trying to teach a monkey to read quantum physics when they don't even have the ability to read in the first place so how could they understand quantum physics. The exact same question back is what was before the Big Bang remembering the science law that nothing can be created from nothing?

 

I think because we are at the top of the food chain and we can put a man on the moon human civilisation thinks science has cracked it and we know everything, what I'm saying in the scheme of things we know very little and use science supposition for the rest. Another thing if we evolved from this soup why are we so dramatically different from the millions of other creatures on this planet in terms of development it just doesn't add up?

[paulus 26]

so what created the creator? even if you believe in the creator theories at some point something mustve evolved. theres billions of planets and theyve been there for trillions of years so yes on that scale in that timeframe i believe molecule could have randomly formed to make DNA. I could accept creationism in the sense that another lifeform sent out organisms designed to adapt to whatever suitable conditions they arrive in or something but not that everything on earth was planned and designed as it is but even then how did the alien lifeform get created in the first place.and without getting to philosophical what is life really? its just molecules organised together to make something the same as water or rocks etc

 

Yep fair question and one I thought about many times, IMO God wasn't created as he is the creator of all life, we simply do not have the ability to understand how this is just like trying to teach a monkey to read quantum physics when they don't even have the ability to read in the first place so how could they understand quantum physics. The exact same question back is what was before the Big Bang remembering the science law that nothing can be created from nothing?

 

I think because we are at the top of the food chain and we can put a man on the moon human civilisation thinks science has cracked it and we know everything, what I'm saying in the scheme of things we know very little and use science supposition for the rest. Another thing if we evolved from this soup why are we so dramatically different from the millions of other creatures on this planet in terms of development it just doesn't add up?

we are not dramatically different, are genetic makeup all contains similar elements, a banana is 60% human.

[Francie 6,368]

No its not, it a banana paulas, its food, its not alive, it dont breath, has no blood, its has sixty percent same building blocks, thats it, good materials for building, good design, your well sucked in that that tripe paulas.

 

Answer me this, if a banana is 60% human, why do you eat your relative, your naughty old man, lol

[Francie 6,368]

Oh an by the way paulas, the gentic code is only two% of our dna, yes two percent, good luck getting round that one, lol

[walshie 2,804]

Everyone has their own views, but to me, believing something that may have been written however long ago just because it is written, seems like your mother telling you "Because i said so."