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How about you give us some examples that prove your position Francie pal

I cannot prove anything 100 percent bgd, all I can do is give evidence, same as rest of us, an as you know ive put up alot of material in the past, an il have a nice chat with someone, thats it, because ive been accused in past of trying to change people, which I wasnt I was just defending my position.
id be interested to hear any real evidence of creationism im open minded and enjoy the debate.

Same here mate.

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I feel it necessary to point out that nowhere in mainstream science does anything claim that the universe came from nothing. The Big Bang Theory explains what happened in the time when the universe wa

I disagree for folk like me who have an inquisitive nature i never get tired of reading different folks views on things like this thats how we learn isnt it......it must get tiresome for folk who thin

Yes ,,nail on the head there max,,,I said it on another thread not long ago,,,,,NOTHING,,,,us humans can't and won't accept NOTHING....hear lies the problem,,,and thats why you lot believe ,,,,you can

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Lad your throwing out alot here, with nothing to back it up, start with one an give your reasons for it.

 

I assume your saying evoloution means, molecules to man, am I correct,?

 

ive backed up more than you have pal, so take dew claws, off the top of my head dogs evolved from large slow animals that had five toes for balance and weight bearing as they evolved longer limbs the four forward pointing toes moved further to the front to aid traction the dew claw, now not needed stayed were it was/ moved up the now longer limb to a point were it was no longer a hinderance to survival/breeding prospects were it has stayed ever since.

Is there any evidence we can look at, observe, test, to show that dogs have actually done what you said, need proper evidence to look at.

 

I thought dogs ( evolved ) from wolves?

 

Some dogs have declaws some dont, dogs still use there dew claws, some use it to pick there teeth, lol, other hunting dogs use them to aid themselves to get out of icy waters which theyve fell threw, or hounds that tree game actually climb trees to get to there quarry, no I dont think there vestigual, no science to back it up, just guesswork.

 

How about we stick to scientific evidence, here now, observable testable, does the dew claw thing stand up to this?

short of travelling back in time no of course we cant prove it, we can look at the evidence and draw logical conclusion though. Why dont you put your scientific evidence for creationism up so we can compare side by side

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And like you said dogs evolved with mans helping hand from wolves, to be able to prove anything scientifically you must be able to create it which is exactly what we have done with dogs/evolution, through selective breeding we have evolved dogs to suit every niche we want them to has anyone ever created something from nothing?

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Heres common sense science to easily refute evoloitionism.

 

Evoloutionism says that everything in the earth has a common ancestor, birds are related to bananas, flys are rated to dogs etc so everything is related an came from a common ancestor, so all animals plants etc is related.

 

Well how come if you look at nature, right now, observable testable, that animals humans plants, reproduce after there kind.

 

Dogs produce dogs

 

Donkeys produce donkeys

 

Humans produce humans, etc etc

 

So how does evoloutionism refute this?

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Where's the scientific, peer reviewed studies that back up the creation theory? There's plenty that back up the theory of evolution...

Like what?

http://phys.org/journals/journal-of-human-evolution/

 

There's a whole journal of them, your turn pal :thumbs:

Thanks, but these things that has happened, an evoloutisim are using it to back up there theory, its not concrete, there using it, but that dont mean its true, they have put there beleif on them, not proof at all.

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Have you ever actually read Origin of Species or any of the great works on evolution pal? You seem to have a very juvenile view of the theory behind it.

Haha dont be condecending pal, Ive studied plenty, dont be a smaet arse.

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Have you ever actually read Origin of Species or any of the great works on evolution pal? You seem to have a very juvenile view of the theory behind it.

Haha dont be condescending pal, Ive studied plenty, dont be a smaet arse.

 

Not being condecending at all pal just asking a question which I notice you neglected to answer...

 

 

 

 

Where's the scientific, peer reviewed studies that back up the creation theory? There's plenty that back up the theory of evolution...

Like what?

 

http://phys.org/journals/journal-of-human-evolution/

 

There's a whole journal of them, your turn pal :thumbs:

 

Thanks, but these things that has happened, an evoloutisim are using it to back up there theory, its not concrete, there using it, but that dont mean its true, they have put there beleif on them, not proof at all.

 

Well where's the equivalent studies from a creationist standpoint then pal? Surely you've got some scientific studies to refute the ones i posted if you're so sure they're wrong? :hmm:

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Have you ever actually read Origin of Species or any of the great works on evolution pal? You seem to have a very juvenile view of the theory behind it.

Darwin in origins of species conceded himself, that his theory would be dead in the water, if thousands, millions ( transitional ) fossils were notfound, an we found 0, so even darwin wasnt sure, lol

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Have you ever actually read Origin of Species or any of the great works on evolution pal? You seem to have a very juvenile view of the theory behind it.

Haha dont be condecending pal, Ive studied plenty, dont be a smaet arse.
Not being condecending at all pal just asking a question which I notice you neglected to answer...

 

 

 

 

Where's the scientific, peer reviewed studies that back up the creation theory? There's plenty that back up the theory of evolution...

Like what?

http://phys.org/journals/journal-of-human-evolution/

 

There's a whole journal of them, your turn pal :thumbs:

Thanks, but these things that has happened, an evoloutisim are using it to back up there theory, its not concrete, there using it, but that dont mean its true, they have put there beleif on them, not proof at all.

Well where's the equivalent studies from a creationist standpoint then pal? Surely you've got some scientific studies to refute the ones i posted if you're so sure they're wrong? :hmm:

Ive done it all before bgd, I dont have to prove nothing, its up to the individual to make up there own mind.

 

I was responding to jd, when he said theres more evidence for evoloutionism, I just wanted to see his evidence, to see if theres anything new, but no same old same old.

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Have you ever actually read Origin of Species or any of the great works on evolution pal? You seem to have a very juvenile view of the theory behind it.

Darwin in origins of species conceded himself, that his theory would be dead in the water, if thousands, millions ( transitional ) fossils were notfound, an we found 0, so even darwin wasnt sure, lol

 

Can you not provide in laymans terms any evidence or anything realistic pointing towards creationism? trying to

Disprove other theories doesnt add any weight to your own argument as for fossils there will have been trillions and trillions of individual animals over the last billion years and we have found just thousands of fossils. Dinosaurs were around for millions of years and since humans have PROVED you can dramatically change an animal in just a few generations what are the chances of us finding a snapshot of that?

Besides we dont need fossils we have living missing links I.e us with our coccyx etc

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