Plucky1 1,119 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 No Gaz I am in dispute with them over their failure to follow proper procedure when dealing with a disiplinary matter" I have been in your position a few times and unless you have them in a watertight case then you are dreaming mate,are you still paid whilst on the sick ?? is it a big company ?? most managers would be expecting you to go on the sick as its always the first thing anyone in dispute does, if you have been there a long time then you will have some protection but one thing is for certain you will never win taking on a company unless there have been glaring errors in the grievance procedure by the management which is unlikely, all companies take advice from company solicitors and unless you are in a decent union then you will have to pay for representation.Lots of people think they are irreplaceable and try to hold a company to ransome thinking nobody can do this job like me (mistakenly) only to find the person who replaces them may not do it quite so well but the job still gets done, think about your reference as they are very important in todays world and no company likes a trouble maker no matter how good at the job they are, sometimes we have to accept discipline, WM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,789 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Any advice on the best way to word a case for getting signed of with stress. Cheers in advance I don't think we misinterpreted anything.......there it is in black and white. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greengrass 201 Posted June 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 I think i explained it earlier wilf ..i wanted to explain to the doctor the reason for needing a couple of weeks of and did so.I dont think i, m irreplacable ..far from it i m a van driver ffs but i do believe in standing up for myself and others when i think i have been wronged.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil82 1,076 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 result then, 2 weeks off work for you and the footie starts this weekend Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greengrass 201 Posted June 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 No Gaz I am in dispute with them over their failure to follow proper procedure when dealing with a disiplinary matter" I have been in your position a few times and unless you have them in a watertight case then you are dreaming mate,are you still paid whilst on the sick ?? is it a big company ?? most managers would be expecting you to go on the sick as its always the first thing anyone in dispute does, if you have been there a long time then you will have some protection but one thing is for certain you will never win taking on a company unless there have been glaring errors in the grievance procedure by the management which is unlikely, all companies take advice from company solicitors and unless you are in a decent union then you will have to pay for representation.Lots of people think they are irreplaceable and try to hold a company to ransome thinking nobody can do this job like me (mistakenly) only to find the person who replaces them may not do it quite so well but the job still gets done, think about your reference as they are very important in todays world and no company likes a trouble maker no matter how good at the job they are, sometimes we have to accept discipline, WMWe have also taken advice both from ACAS and from an employment lawyer up here..the lawyer and acas both think that given the paperwork we have and the outcome of the disiplinary hearing the company did not follow their own code of conduct never mind anybody else s. That part of the dispute is clear...they have not followed correct procedure. I can see this going to a tribunral and hopefully the two lads who lost their jobs will either get reinstated or get paid the money the company would be due them in the event of it being decided that they were unfairly dismissed and i was unfairly punished.Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr scent 665 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 I'm off work now with stress and anxiety pal . Just tell the doc you can't sleep or eat and that you have money worries pal . You can't sleep because of all the worry and that your up in a heap . I was under a lot of stress last few weeks over family stuff so the doc gave me few weeks off . Just be careful of the medication they give you . Zanex they started me On and then Prozac which don't agree with me so I just stopped taking them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr scent 665 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Another thing is that your employer is obliged to help you with any condition you may have . My job are paying for Counciling pal because they are obliged to help . Pm me If Ye need to know more pal and il help if any way I can Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulnix 426 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Why are your employers obliged to help you with your family related stress issue ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stevo79 569 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) how about if its not working for an absolute bellend of a company or person (where the answer should be just find another job) try growing some balls and sorting yourself out, stress is something we all have at some point, most cope with it without looking for an excuse to have time off work/meds/someone to sue, its called lifeThat was a bit uncalled for. Your a very immature person making comments like that. Grow up. Hope you get your shit sorted out fella. Atb Edited June 7, 2016 by stevo79 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,789 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) No wonder the country is in a f***ing shit state ! Let's have it right, don't crack on like you are some sort of freedom fighter for a higher cause, defending your downtrodden pals and righting the wrongs of the nasty employer.........in my experience you never are. Your just after a fat cheque buck shee........that's about the strength of it ! Edited June 7, 2016 by WILF 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr scent 665 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Why are your employers obliged to help you with your family related stress issue ? its company policy to help out employees with issues pal . They are very good like that . If you have a drink or drug problem they will even pay for rehab and you can pay them back a few quid a week out of your wages 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,789 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Why are your employers obliged to help you with your family related stress issue ?its company policy to help out employees with issues pal . They are very good like that . If you have a drink or drug problem they will even pay for rehab and you can pay them back a few quid a week out of your wages They sound like a good firm, willing to help people with genuine issues mate........all this "not followed procedure" is quiet another thing.........a load of old bollocks in laymans terms ! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David.evans 5,323 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Can belive this , if I had time off work due to work related stress , I'd never fecin work again Just chill man and get on with it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil82 1,076 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 how about if its not working for an absolute bellend of a company or person (where the answer should be just find another job) try growing some balls and sorting yourself out, stress is something we all have at some point, most cope with it without looking for an excuse to have time off work/meds/someone to sue, its called lifeThat was a bit uncalled for. Your a very immature person making comments like that. Grow up. Hope you get your shit sorted out fella. Atb why would you say that, maybe I am so mature and adult that I've seen enough of life to realise that the way we are now is to look for ways to blame others for our own sensitivity and look for someone to blame/sue for anything we are not happy about, the guy is not happy about something at work and is asking about how to screw time off on what is sick leave and get paid for doing fuckall, two points here i`d like to make clear, 1, if your not happy in your job, walk there are others out there and 2, this is THL, since when has sympathy for being a twat been compulsory 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulnix 426 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Why are your employers obliged to help you with your family related stress issue ?its company policy to help out employees with issues pal . They are very good like that . If you have a drink or drug problem they will even pay for rehab and you can pay them back a few quid a week out of your wages Nice one, sounds a good company to work for, I helped out am employee in a similar position and would in the right circumstances ( and the right employee ) again. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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