Some Do & Some Don't..

[jeemes 4,509]

Thats a lovely looking pup. If he was mine I would be covering my eyes as he jumped those fences at his age though..You can see on the pictures that he still has a lot of bone around his wrist to grow out.

In fact those growth plates wont be set until hes around fifteen months. Ive nothing against pups learning to jump but if he was my dog I wouldnt want him to jump more than a foot or so. After all its only the action they need to learn at first.

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

 

Sean,..that sure is some fabulous hunting ground you have there...

I love to let the dog work through reeds and rushes, after the rabbits, hares and pheasants..

 

 

Edited June 7, 2016 by Phil Lloyd

[FUJI 17,328]

Thats a lovely looking pup. If he was mine I would be covering my eyes as he jumped those fences at his age though..You can see on the pictures that he still has a lot of bone around his wrist to grow out.

In fact those growth plates wont be set until hes around fifteen months. Ive nothing against pups learning to jump but if he was my dog I wouldnt want him to jump more than a foot or so. After all its only the action they need to learn at first.

I get your drift fella ??,i don't,won't,never have nor never will wrap my dogs up in cotton wool,if i thought of everything that may go wrong by doing certain things id end up keeping handbag dogs & not working dogs lol,one of the best dogs I've ever seen grafting broke its leg jumping a gate & was pts but I've seen twenty fold of that being killed whilst working so where do you stop? Don't have them jumping or don't work them at all? From 8 weeks old mine never get a helping hand off me,they either go under,around or over..in certain areas of the country there is little requirement to have a dog jump but my dogs have to if they want to catch gear on a regular basis,were i to live/hunt in parts of the South East etc id probably not need a dog to jump,i believe lurchers are canine atheletes unlike no other,they are very adept at many tasks & jumping is no exception..yes barbed wire,gates,metal sheeting used as fencing etc can all be hazardous even for the best of them to me at least it just comes with the territory of owning a working pooch..just on a side note in almost 40 years of keeping lurchers & in that time getting to know thousands of people who worked/work them im yet to see or hear of a dog being ruined for life by learning it to jump as a youngster & id be interested to hear if anyone has owned or know of it happening to their or someone's dog? Oh & even this gets no help ?

 

 

[Daniel cain 46,283]

I've been trying to get my pup to jump for months,with no joy,so thought f**k him he will find away over-the prick flew over when I started running off away from him lol,last few times out he has done it no problem, I'm glad cause he ain't small and my back is f****d from a car crash 18 m ago.I've known boys pay 500 plus for dogs doing the job,then take them back when you got to lift them over a fence or gate.I'm with Fuji ,if a lurcher doesn't jump then it's just a dog.

[tb25 4,627]

Feck me the pom is something else.owt happens to it all be after your head lol...

[jeemes 4,509]

 

Thats a lovely looking pup. If he was mine I would be covering my eyes as he jumped those fences at his age though..You can see on the pictures that he still has a lot of bone around his wrist to grow out.

In fact those growth plates wont be set until hes around fifteen months. Ive nothing against pups learning to jump but if he was my dog I wouldnt want him to jump more than a foot or so. After all its only the action they need to learn at first.

I get your drift fella ,i don't,won't,never have nor never will wrap my dogs up in cotton wool,if i thought of everything that may go wrong by doing certain things id end up keeping handbag dogs & not working dogs lol,one of the best dogs I've ever seen grafting broke its leg jumping a gate & was pts but I've seen twenty fold of that being killed whilst working so where do you stop? Don't have them jumping or don't work them at all? From 8 weeks old mine never get a helping hand off me,they either go under,around or over..in certain areas of the country there is little requirement to have a dog jump but my dogs have to if they want to catch gear on a regular basis,were i to live/hunt in parts of the South East etc id probably not need a dog to jump,i believe lurchers are canine atheletes unlike no other,they are very adept at many tasks & jumping is no exception..yes barbed wire,gates,metal sheeting used as fencing etc can all be hazardous even for the best of them to me at least it just comes with the territory of owning a working pooch..just on a side note in almost 40 years of keeping lurchers & in that time getting to know thousands of people who worked/work them im yet to see or hear of a dog being ruined for life by learning it to jump as a youngster & id be interested to hear if anyone has owned or know of it happening to their or someone's dog? Oh & even this gets no help

 

 

 

Just pups mate. They are not finished.A lot of dogs are spoiled that way,its a shame really. Ive bullxs and they are natural jumpers but I just take care until bones are set thats all. Most of mine jump anything.

[taffey 1,315]

Brother to Fujis mine need to get up and over as well bones still soft so nice bouncy landing on springy heather no good either we're I am unless they can get up and over whilst in pursuit

[FUJI 17,328]

 

 

 

Thats a lovely looking pup. If he was mine I would be covering my eyes as he jumped those fences at his age though..You can see on the pictures that he still has a lot of bone around his wrist to grow out.

In fact those growth plates wont be set until hes around fifteen months. Ive nothing against pups learning to jump but if he was my dog I wouldnt want him to jump more than a foot or so. After all its only the action they need to learn at first.

I get your drift fella ,i don't,won't,never have nor never will wrap my dogs up in cotton wool,if i thought of everything that may go wrong by doing certain things id end up keeping handbag dogs & not working dogs lol,one of the best dogs I've ever seen grafting broke its leg jumping a gate & was pts but I've seen twenty fold of that being killed whilst working so where do you stop? Don't have them jumping or don't work them at all? From 8 weeks old mine never get a helping hand off me,they either go under,around or over..in certain areas of the country there is little requirement to have a dog jump but my dogs have to if they want to catch gear on a regular basis,were i to live/hunt in parts of the South East etc id probably not need a dog to jump,i believe lurchers are canine atheletes unlike no other,they are very adept at many tasks & jumping is no exception..yes barbed wire,gates,metal sheeting used as fencing etc can all be hazardous even for the best of them to me at least it just comes with the territory of owning a working pooch..just on a side note in almost 40 years of keeping lurchers & in that time getting to know thousands of people who worked/work them im yet to see or hear of a dog being ruined for life by learning it to jump as a youngster & id be interested to hear if anyone has owned or know of it happening to their or someone's dog? Oh & even this gets no help

 

 

Just pups mate. They are not finished.A lot of dogs are spoiled that way,its a shame really. Ive bullxs and they are natural jumpers but I just take care until bones are set thats all. Most of mine jump anything.

This is what i was asking bud,do you know of anyone or had issues yourself that have resulted in ruining a young dog by learning it to jump as a pup? I've been around lurchers & lurcherfolk for touching on 40 years,never ever heard or seen a dog knackered (joint wise) by having it jump from a young age,seen hundreds ruined by being entered to work to young though..everything in life comes with risks it really does,i guess we should all just keep on doing what we do if it works for us ??

[Haiddheliwr 1,911]

With you all the way FUJI, that vid was awesome, so glad you got the pom in. Keep it up mate ATB

[Haiddheliwr 1,911]

Sorry Sean just realised the vid was yours brilliant mate!

[leethedog 3,071]

Every lurcher I ever owned was taught to jump from day one of living at my house start off with a scaffold bord between it and it's dinner then slowly increase hight

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

 

 

 

 

Thats a lovely looking pup. If he was mine I would be covering my eyes as he jumped those fences at his age though..You can see on the pictures that he still has a lot of bone around his wrist to grow out.

In fact those growth plates wont be set until hes around fifteen months. Ive nothing against pups learning to jump but if he was my dog I wouldnt want him to jump more than a foot or so. After all its only the action they need to learn at first.

I get your drift fella ,i don't,won't,never have nor never will wrap my dogs up in cotton wool,if i thought of everything that may go wrong by doing certain things id end up keeping handbag dogs & not working dogs lol,one of the best dogs I've ever seen grafting broke its leg jumping a gate & was pts but I've seen twenty fold of that being killed whilst working so where do you stop? Don't have them jumping or don't work them at all? From 8 weeks old mine never get a helping hand off me,they either go under,around or over..in certain areas of the country there is little requirement to have a dog jump but my dogs have to if they want to catch gear on a regular basis,were i to live/hunt in parts of the South East etc id probably not need a dog to jump,i believe lurchers are canine atheletes unlike no other,they are very adept at many tasks & jumping is no exception..yes barbed wire,gates,metal sheeting used as fencing etc can all be hazardous even for the best of them to me at least it just comes with the territory of owning a working pooch..just on a side note in almost 40 years of keeping lurchers & in that time getting to know thousands of people who worked/work them im yet to see or hear of a dog being ruined for life by learning it to jump as a youngster & id be interested to hear if anyone has owned or know of it happening to their or someone's dog? Oh & even this gets no help

 

 

Just pups mate. They are not finished.A lot of dogs are spoiled that way,its a shame really. Ive bullxs and they are natural jumpers but I just take care until bones are set thats all. Most of mine jump anything.

This is what i was asking bud,do you know of anyone or had issues yourself that have resulted in ruining a young dog by learning it to jump as a pup? I've been around lurchers & lurcherfolk for touching on 40 years,never ever heard or seen a dog knackered (joint wise) by having it jump from a young age,seen hundreds ruined by being entered to work to young though..everything in life comes with risks it really does,i guess we should all just keep on doing what we do if it works for us ??

I too would be interested in hearing this. I've often been told I let my pups do too much too young. From 6 weeks old they are out with the adult dogs, doing whatever we are doing. They find there way up, round or under obstacles and don't get assistance and they don't get special 5 minute baby walks.

 

Not had any issues myself and I know blokes with the same ideas who's dogs are still going strong at 10-11 years old with no joint issues or otherwise.

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Yeah,..they learn nothing sat in the kennel/garden,...I like to let them run free,...and what will be, will be...

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

I got some stick for this. Lol. Pup was 6-7 months...

 

[skycat 6,174]

I'm not as fatalistic as some of you. I've seen some horrendous tears from barbed wire on young lurchers who weren't properly looking where they were going: usually when there's other dogs messing about and distracting the youngster. Yes, I teach mine to jump, but I never teach jumping on to concrete or slabs or rock hard ground, and I never send them pinging back and forth over fences over and over again for the hell of it. If that sounds poncy, so be it.

Gaz: that photo you just put up, we have only that sort of fencing round here, and it is easily 4 and a half feet high round here. No problem for a dog that understands the dangers, but I'd sooner get a pup jumping something lower to begin with. I've also seen dogs make a mistake, try to bank the fence and ending up hanging by one foot twisted between the top two wire. Deer and fox die by doing that. Found a muntjac once with both hind feet nearly severed and almost dead. God knows how long it had been hanging there.

My dogs jump when they need to, but these days I'm a lot more careful than I used to be. Even an experienced dog can miss its footing; one of my best jumpers ended up hanging from the top rusty strand of a barbed wire fence, and I think it was because she was jumping into low sun and couldn't see the top rusty wire. My theory anyway, as that was the only slip up she ever had when jumping.

Having said all that, some pups are born to jump and you can't stop them. They seem to get a real kick out of flying through the air. I certainly wouldn't tie a dog down if it wants to do it.