weasellurcher 113 Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 I have always used just a nice looking strong leather collar that I come across. I like them to look nice just personal preference. The traditional shape of a lurcher collar, for those who don't already know is to support their neck. I am fairly sure that this shape saved my old bitches life once as she was coursing a hare, pre ban. Went for the strike and stumbled throwing her head foward and summersualting. I was sure that she would have broken her neck but I think it is that exact situation that the traditional design of collars are made to help with. Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,481 Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 I have always used just a nice looking strong leather collar that I come across. I like them to look nice just personal preference. The traditional shape of a lurcher collar, for those who don't already know is to support their neck. I am fairly sure that this shape saved my old bitches life once as she was coursing a hare, pre ban. Went for the strike and stumbled throwing her head foward and summersualting. I was sure that she would have broken her neck but I think it is that exact situation that the traditional design of collars are made to help with. I dont think thats quite right. The collar is designed to take pressure off the throat when exercising greyhounds. A fast dog is more likely to sustain damage by wearing any collar than not wearing one at all. The only protection a collar can afford a working dog is against the teeth of quarry. I agree with you about leather,and looks though. Quote Link to post
weasellurcher 113 Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 I have always used just a nice looking strong leather collar that I come across. I like them to look nice just personal preference. The traditional shape of a lurcher collar, for those who don't already know is to support their neck. I am fairly sure that this shape saved my old bitches life once as she was coursing a hare, pre ban. Went for the strike and stumbled throwing her head foward and summersualting. I was sure that she would have broken her neck but I think it is that exact situation that the traditional design of collars are made to help with. I dont think thats quite right. The collar is designed to take pressure off the throat when exercising greyhounds. A fast dog is more likely to sustain damage by wearing any collar than not wearing one at all. The only protection a collar can afford a working dog is against the teeth of quarry. I agree with you about leather,and looks though. Looked into it some and it would seem you right! Makes sense I suppose. I thought it worked a bit like a hunting stock for humans. Atb and cheers for the knowledge! Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 My little girl really rates strong stuff gear... 2 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Hargreaves in keighley,hand made leather,buffalo,collar,£5.Soft and pliable,very hard wearing and cheap.Id not run a dog with some of the collars about,especially strong stuff.why would you not run it mate not a dig just asking was thing about getting one my self that all The originals were far to bulky and sat away from the neck,the recent ones ive seen are still worse fitting than a far cheaper leather option.Its rare that a mutt will get snagged by a collar,it happens and i had a mutt that never recovered from a neck twisted by a snagged tight fitting leather collar,only happened once in many years,i believe it would have happened a tad more with a bulkier collar.Some collars are manufactured to serve a purpose others to suit a breed type and i don,t like SS collars,they are overkill in my opinion,others have had years and years of satisfaction with the SS gear,thus it suits many.Id have a look at them,in the flesh,try them on the mutt,do the same with a quality leather collar and then decide. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) Any pic of gypsy slip mate If you click on the Hargreaves link then there's a photo of one on their site. It's called a quick release collar. They do a bespoke service and will make to order.Plus they are negotiable on prices. Edited June 12, 2016 by morton Quote Link to post
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Just to mention, that I actually make collars in widths from 3/4" up to 2" wide, and it is the customer that chooses the width they buy.I do not come around to your house in the dark and gag you with my dick until you buy the widest collar in the f***ing world.As for a bespoke service ... Almost every collar I make is done this way, I have a bit of stock to take to the odd show, but mostly make to order, is this good or something?The OP is now sorted, he rang me Saturday morning, paid me within an hour, his collars were made before I went to work last night and will be in the post Monday morning.strongstuff, because life is too short to be messing with special potions on strips of old cows that will go slimy, stretch and rot. https://www.(!64.56:886/Strongstuff-Dog-Gear-220294179318/?qsefr=1 2 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) Just to mention, that I actually make collars in widths from 3/4" up to 2" wide, and it is the customer that chooses the width they buy. I do not come around to your house in the dark and gag you with my dick until you buy the widest collar in the f***ing world. As for a bespoke service ... Almost every collar I make is done this way, I have a bit of stock to take to the odd show, but mostly make to order, is this good or something? The OP is now sorted, he rang me Saturday morning, paid me within an hour, his collars were made before I went to work last night and will be in the post Monday morning. strongstuff, because life is too short to be messing with special potions on strips of old cows that will go slimy, stretch and rot. https://www.(!64.56:886/Strongstuff-Dog-Gear-220294179318/?qsefr=1 Ive leather collars and leads that have been used on dog,after dog,some over 20 years old and still strong,reliant and serviceable,Lets be a tad honest here pal,you want peoples dollar and encourage your ss EXPENSIVE merchandise,well done and good luck with that,yet when i first encountered your merchandise i thought it was a joke and still do,its expensive and second rate to leather,fact.There is a market for both and i applaud your industry and ability to earn an income from it,very well done.Leather will weather,ive yet to see a cow go slimy,stretch or rot,unless dead,as the majority of leather goods are made from dead animals you may have a point,but you stretch it beyond belief to encourage the useage of your expensive wares,ive leather here that cost me £2, 20 years ago and the same that cost me a £5 last year,ill still be using both in many years to come,plus ive just paid a small fortune to have another rubber sole put on my 15 year old boots,the leathers fine,the non leather keeps letting them down.Your avatar picture is a prime example why id never put a ss collar on a runner. Edited June 12, 2016 by morton 1 Quote Link to post
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Just to mention, that I actually make collars in widths from 3/4" up to 2" wide, and it is the customer that chooses the width they buy. I do not come around to your house in the dark and gag you with my dick until you buy the widest collar in the f***ing world. As for a bespoke service ... Almost every collar I make is done this way, I have a bit of stock to take to the odd show, but mostly make to order, is this good or something? The OP is now sorted, he rang me Saturday morning, paid me within an hour, his collars were made before I went to work last night and will be in the post Monday morning. strongstuff, because life is too short to be messing with special potions on strips of old cows that will go slimy, stretch and rot. https://www.(!64.56:886/Strongstuff-Dog-Gear-220294179318/?qsefr=1 Ive leather collars and leads that have been used on dog,after dog,some over 20 years old and still strong,reliant and serviceable,Lets be a tad honest here pal,you want peoples dollar and encourage your ss EXPENSIVE merchandise,well done and good luck with that,yet when i first encountered your merchandise i thought it was a joke and still do,its expensive and second rate to leather,fact.There is a market for both and i applaud your industry and ability to earn an income from it,very well done.Leather will weather,ive yet to see a cow go slimy,stretch or rot,unless dead,as the majority of leather goods are made from dead animals you may have a point,but you stretch it beyond belief to encourage the useage of your expensive wares,ive leather here that cost me £2, 20 years ago and the same that cost me a £5 last year,ill still be using both in many years to come,plus ive just paid a small fortune to have another rubber sole put on my 15 year old boots,the leathers fine,the non leather keeps letting them down.Your avatar picture is a prime example why id never put a ss collar on a runner. Boots ... No arguments on that one, Trickers x 2, Loake, Hanwag and Lowa here. Expensive? Behave. Avatar photo is not a runner, of any description, you never had that horrible feeling when you're dragging your dog off something and yet another shitty collar snaps? My gear isn't the best because I say it is, it is the thousands of lads who know they can trust it not to fail like leather can. I don't earn a living from it full time, I couldn't be arsed with the increase in messers I'd have to deal with if I relied on it to feed me. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Just to mention, that I actually make collars in widths from 3/4" up to 2" wide, and it is the customer that chooses the width they buy. I do not come around to your house in the dark and gag you with my dick until you buy the widest collar in the f***ing world. As for a bespoke service ... Almost every collar I make is done this way, I have a bit of stock to take to the odd show, but mostly make to order, is this good or something? The OP is now sorted, he rang me Saturday morning, paid me within an hour, his collars were made before I went to work last night and will be in the post Monday morning. strongstuff, because life is too short to be messing with special potions on strips of old cows that will go slimy, stretch and rot. https://www.(!64.56:886/Strongstuff-Dog-Gear-220294179318/?qsefr=1 Ive leather collars and leads that have been used on dog,after dog,some over 20 years old and still strong,reliant and serviceable,Lets be a tad honest here pal,you want peoples dollar and encourage your ss EXPENSIVE merchandise,well done and good luck with that,yet when i first encountered your merchandise i thought it was a joke and still do,its expensive and second rate to leather,fact.There is a market for both and i applaud your industry and ability to earn an income from it,very well done.Leather will weather,ive yet to see a cow go slimy,stretch or rot,unless dead,as the majority of leather goods are made from dead animals you may have a point,but you stretch it beyond belief to encourage the useage of your expensive wares,ive leather here that cost me £2, 20 years ago and the same that cost me a £5 last year,ill still be using both in many years to come,plus ive just paid a small fortune to have another rubber sole put on my 15 year old boots,the leathers fine,the non leather keeps letting them down.Your avatar picture is a prime example why id never put a ss collar on a runner. Boots ... No arguments on that one, Trickers x 2, Loake, Hanwag and Lowa here. Expensive? Behave. Avatar photo is not a runner, of any description, you never had that horrible feeling when you're dragging your dog off something and yet another shitty collar snaps? My gear isn't the best because I say it is, it is the thousands of lads who know they can trust it not to fail like leather can. I don't earn a living from it full time, I couldn't be arsed with the increase in messers I'd have to deal with if I relied on it to feed me. The day i need to drag a dog away or off something is the day i know i failed the dog.I command the mutt obeys and as i seldom work them with a collar it would be a futile task to tug at whats in my pocket or rucksack and the fecking numptys that need to drag their jukels away with force may be best suited to your merchandise,only joking-perhaps.Im happy that you get revenue from your gear and fully appreciate the difficullty it takes in earning a crust at times,very well done and i say that without any form of malice or mischief mucker.I can source a leather collar that will fit a big lurcher and last for more than the lurchers life,£5,how much would an ss collar be to fit the same type of mutt?. 1 Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,481 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 I have always used just a nice looking strong leather collar that I come across. I like them to look nice just personal preference. The traditional shape of a lurcher collar, for those who don't already know is to support their neck. I am fairly sure that this shape saved my old bitches life once as she was coursing a hare, pre ban. Went for the strike and stumbled throwing her head foward and summersualting. I was sure that she would have broken her neck but I think it is that exact situation that the traditional design of collars are made to help with.I dont think thats quite right. The collar is designed to take pressure off the throat when exercising greyhounds. A fast dog is more likely to sustain damage by wearing any collar than not wearing one at all. The only protection a collar can afford a working dog is against the teeth of quarry. I agree with you about leather,and looks though. Looked into it some and it would seem you right! Makes sense I suppose. I thought it worked a bit like a hunting stock for humans. Atb and cheers for the knowledge! No problem,Im glad you took it how it was meant. Quote Link to post
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Just to mention, that I actually make collars in widths from 3/4" up to 2" wide, and it is the customer that chooses the width they buy. I do not come around to your house in the dark and gag you with my dick until you buy the widest collar in the f***ing world. As for a bespoke service ... Almost every collar I make is done this way, I have a bit of stock to take to the odd show, but mostly make to order, is this good or something? The OP is now sorted, he rang me Saturday morning, paid me within an hour, his collars were made before I went to work last night and will be in the post Monday morning. strongstuff, because life is too short to be messing with special potions on strips of old cows that will go slimy, stretch and rot. https://www.(!64.56:886/Strongstuff-Dog-Gear-220294179318/?qsefr=1 Ive leather collars and leads that have been used on dog,after dog,some over 20 years old and still strong,reliant and serviceable,Lets be a tad honest here pal,you want peoples dollar and encourage your ss EXPENSIVE merchandise,well done and good luck with that,yet when i first encountered your merchandise i thought it was a joke and still do,its expensive and second rate to leather,fact.There is a market for both and i applaud your industry and ability to earn an income from it,very well done.Leather will weather,ive yet to see a cow go slimy,stretch or rot,unless dead,as the majority of leather goods are made from dead animals you may have a point,but you stretch it beyond belief to encourage the useage of your expensive wares,ive leather here that cost me £2, 20 years ago and the same that cost me a £5 last year,ill still be using both in many years to come,plus ive just paid a small fortune to have another rubber sole put on my 15 year old boots,the leathers fine,the non leather keeps letting them down.Your avatar picture is a prime example why id never put a ss collar on a runner. Boots ... No arguments on that one, Trickers x 2, Loake, Hanwag and Lowa here. Expensive? Behave. Avatar photo is not a runner, of any description, you never had that horrible feeling when you're dragging your dog off something and yet another shitty collar snaps? My gear isn't the best because I say it is, it is the thousands of lads who know they can trust it not to fail like leather can. I don't earn a living from it full time, I couldn't be arsed with the increase in messers I'd have to deal with if I relied on it to feed me. The day i need to drag a dog away or off something is the day i know i failed the dog.I command the mutt obeys and as i seldom work them with a collar it would be a futile task to tug at whats in my pocket or rucksack and the fecking numptys that need to drag their jukels away with force may be best suited to your merchandise,only joking-perhaps.Im happy that you get revenue from your gear and fully appreciate the difficullty it takes in earning a crust at times,very well done and i say that without any form of malice or mischief mucker.I can source a leather collar that will fit a big lurcher and last for more than the lurchers life,£5,how much would an ss collar be to fit the same type of mutt?. "Leave!" ... Righto. £5, it would cost £4.45 to post that! Where are they made for a fiver? By 6 year olds in China? Minimum wage in UK is around £7, they must be making a few an hour to make any profit by the time material costs are taken into account. One of mine would be £15 to £20. Quote Link to post
nans pat 2,575 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 i bought a leather one all brass fittings for a fiver think thats the price of them Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Just to mention, that I actually make collars in widths from 3/4" up to 2" wide, and it is the customer that chooses the width they buy. I do not come around to your house in the dark and gag you with my dick until you buy the widest collar in the f***ing world. As for a bespoke service ... Almost every collar I make is done this way, I have a bit of stock to take to the odd show, but mostly make to order, is this good or something? The OP is now sorted, he rang me Saturday morning, paid me within an hour, his collars were made before I went to work last night and will be in the post Monday morning. strongstuff, because life is too short to be messing with special potions on strips of old cows that will go slimy, stretch and rot. https://www.(!64.56:886/Strongstuff-Dog-Gear-220294179318/?qsefr=1 Ive leather collars and leads that have been used on dog,after dog,some over 20 years old and still strong,reliant and serviceable,Lets be a tad honest here pal,you want peoples dollar and encourage your ss EXPENSIVE merchandise,well done and good luck with that,yet when i first encountered your merchandise i thought it was a joke and still do,its expensive and second rate to leather,fact.There is a market for both and i applaud your industry and ability to earn an income from it,very well done.Leather will weather,ive yet to see a cow go slimy,stretch or rot,unless dead,as the majority of leather goods are made from dead animals you may have a point,but you stretch it beyond belief to encourage the useage of your expensive wares,ive leather here that cost me £2, 20 years ago and the same that cost me a £5 last year,ill still be using both in many years to come,plus ive just paid a small fortune to have another rubber sole put on my 15 year old boots,the leathers fine,the non leather keeps letting them down.Your avatar picture is a prime example why id never put a ss collar on a runner. Boots ... No arguments on that one, Trickers x 2, Loake, Hanwag and Lowa here. Expensive? Behave. Avatar photo is not a runner, of any description, you never had that horrible feeling when you're dragging your dog off something and yet another shitty collar snaps? My gear isn't the best because I say it is, it is the thousands of lads who know they can trust it not to fail like leather can. I don't earn a living from it full time, I couldn't be arsed with the increase in messers I'd have to deal with if I relied on it to feed me. The day i need to drag a dog away or off something is the day i know i failed the dog.I command the mutt obeys and as i seldom work them with a collar it would be a futile task to tug at whats in my pocket or rucksack and the fecking numptys that need to drag their jukels away with force may be best suited to your merchandise,only joking-perhaps.Im happy that you get revenue from your gear and fully appreciate the difficullty it takes in earning a crust at times,very well done and i say that without any form of malice or mischief mucker.I can source a leather collar that will fit a big lurcher and last for more than the lurchers life,£5,how much would an ss collar be to fit the same type of mutt?. "Leave!" ... Righto. £5, it would cost £4.45 to post that! Where are they made for a fiver? By 6 year olds in China? Minimum wage in UK is around £7, they must be making a few an hour to make any profit by the time material costs are taken into account. One of mine would be £15 to £20. Thus i could go to Hargreaves in Keighley and take home a bespoke Buffalo leather collar that will last me a lifetime for a snippance of what you charge,it will fit far snugger,thus being far,far,far,far safer if left on a runner,fact.As i walk past the place most days i may not need the postage charge,even with id have 2 for the price of 1.Supply and demand mucker and market forces dictate the market,you do well enough im sure,good luck and no ill regards.I just don,t like ss gear,as many do keep at it. Quote Link to post
Astanley 11,568 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 I like leather ,but the SS stuff for hard wearing trustworthiness and longevity leave it for dead ,and despite how he comes across on here he is a very pleasant young man . 3 Quote Link to post
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