Aa Tx200 Hc Or Weihrauch Hw97K ?

[davyt63 1,845]

Definitely try before you buy!

 

I have/had both but recently sold my 97 mainly due to it weight,as I am getting an ole get lately,lol

It was a .22 but was really accurate,with its stage 2 tune form Sandwell.

 

I still have my TX .177 which is also really accurate,fettled by myself,it's lighter than the 97 and as my friends say I shoot the TX better,so it was down to personnel preference for me.

 

Both accurate guns,but out of the box the TX wins,for me.

[random 659]

I had a 97 and my mate had a 200 and we shot together for years and after seeing and using these rifles side by side I don't think there's anything between them,whichever you end up with you will like,ours were both .22 and my 97 is my favourite rifle that ive owned,im still saving for a springer and these are two of my top three but like people have said,rightly so,handle them as only you can choose which you prefer,i certainly will be before I hand over any cash,although I intend to probably get both eventually!

[slipper 116]

Shot a 77 for years and a 97 but my mate bought a tx200 hc and I think it it feels more balanced just my opinion but the next air rifle I buy is going to be a tx in 177

[jonnie bravo 572]

Out of the box I'd go with the TX. But I'd put myself on the line and say that the 97 has the potential to be a 'sweeter' gun.

 

I've heard a lot of bad reports about the HW's out of the box, and judging by my 99 I'd agree that the finishing isn't what you would expect from them, but the gun itself shoots very well and that's in comparison to my old prosport which was fettled.

 

I would go the 97 route myself. But it's completely down to you, try before you buy if poss.

[pianoman 3,587]

I have/had both and loved them both. Either will produce all the amazing accuracy you need for hunting, FT, HFT whatever you need a rifle for.

 

I currently have an HW97K .177 which is really all the air rifle I need for hunting. It's an absolutely beautiful rifle and as accurate as it absolutely gets. I've recently sold my Air Arms TX200HC .177 after many years of incredible shooting with that rifle, but, my HW97K is a comfortably better handling rifle in my hands and as such, the TX200HC was getting left behind. It was a crime to let a brilliant rifle gather dust in the cabinet and now has gone to a great lad and shooter here who'll do it proper justice.

 

But I'm a devotee of Herman Weihrauch and his amazing products and remain firmly loyal to the HW97 in this case.

[dayglowfrog 56]

I have both just got a sporter stock for my previously hw97kt now its very similar to the TX . Not had them long enough to really say which is better for me.

 

my 97 had a v mach kit fitted by previous owner so it should be a direct comparison with my standard tx .

I can say the TX has so far been much easier to use and get good results from but as stated I have been messing about with the 97 and not settled with it yet.

Just fitted another scope to it and will be seeing how that goes.

[Lloyd90 509]

Am I right in thinking the HW has a moderator already fitted and the TX does not ?

[Rez 4,961]

Its a shroud on the AA man, the 97 does have a somewhat moderator, but its not really. I know it is, but it isn't like a moderator in the sense of the word.

 

I personally think the TX is quieter to be honest, but thats down to the internals... but then again its for the chaps that struggle to hit the spot, and need that second shot

[Lloyd90 509]

Its a shroud on the AA man, the 97 does have a somewhat moderator, but its not really. I know it is, but it isn't like a moderator in the sense of the word.

 

I personally think the TX is quieter to be honest, but thats down to the internals... but then again its for the chaps that struggle to hit the spot, and need that second shot

Sorry Rex but what's a shroud ?

 

I have seen some pics of the TX with a mod on the end attached

[Rez 4,961]

 

Its a shroud on the AA man, the 97 does have a somewhat moderator, but its not really. I know it is, but it isn't like a moderator in the sense of the word.

 

I personally think the TX is quieter to be honest, but thats down to the internals... but then again its for the chaps that struggle to hit the spot, and need that second shot

Sorry Rex but what's a shroud ?

 

I have seen some pics of the TX with a mod on the end attached

 

Yeah thats right man, you can get a moderator to fit the end of the muzzle on the TX, but its very quiet as standard.

 

A shroud, when not being utilized as a moderator of sorts, its just a cover, a good looking one in terms of the TX, that encircles the complete length of the barrel.

 

I think originally they were used for safety purposes when machine guns where spitting out like 1000 rounds a minute... things can get a tad warm. An MG42 for example. Burrrrrrrp... Burrrrrp.

[philpot 5,005]

I have a mod fitted to my TX, does it make a difference, yes it does on the indoor range but not a huge amount outside. Is it worth an extra 50 notes, hmmm not sure to be honest, let me put it this way, if I bought another springer, would I fit a mod straight off.............no.

 

Phil

[Lloyd90 509]

I have a mod fitted to my TX, does it make a difference, yes it does on the indoor range but not a huge amount outside. Is it worth an extra 50 notes, hmmm not sure to be honest, let me put it this way, if I bought another springer, would I fit a mod straight off.............no.

 

Phil

Cheers lads, I just thought that if they're both similar lengths sticking a mod on the end of the TX is so obviously going to add a few inches

[pianoman 3,587]

The 97's built-in silencer..... No. Sorry. It's not a moderator or silencer on the muzzle end of the 97. It's more of a muzzle-weight to aid balance forward and still latch the underlever up. You basically have a hefty HW77 action with a much shortened barrel with a lot of weight tipping backwards, towards the butt-end as a result and as such, the rifle needs a counterweight. Weihrauch say it contains no blast-deadening material as silencers do. Thus, it makes not a bit of difference towards muffling the crack of air at the muzzle on firing.

 

Generally, all silencers/moderators are a waste of time and money on a sub-12 ft/lb spring rifle. They work a little better on FAC springers but not by any great amount of muzzle-hush. My HW80 has a Venomtech slim silencer and it still gives a decent crack off the muzzle. But there is a noticeable bit more without it.

 

What can any moderator do about the snap-crack of the spring and piston head slamming forward inside the cylinder?

 

And nobody can do a thing about muffling the noisy thwack of a pellet hitting a rabbit's head anyway. :hmm:

[philpot 5,005]

I should say that the only reason I popped a mod on my TX was that any sound reduction is a benefit as I have 6 horses the other side of my garden wall who are used to me shooting in the garden and they can be a bit twitchy at times, touch wood, they have not become too concerned with the noise from the TX.

 

Phil

[davyt63 1,845]

 

I have a mod fitted to my TX, does it make a difference, yes it does on the indoor range but not a huge amount outside. Is it worth an extra 50 notes, hmmm not sure to be honest, let me put it this way, if I bought another springer, would I fit a mod straight off.............no.

Phil

Cheers lads, I just thought that if they're both similar lengths sticking a mod on the end of the TX is so obviously going to add a few inches

If you was to put a moderator on a TX,you will have to remove the plenum insert first,pretty easy to with a 5p coin.unscrew anti clockwise.