Euros 2016

[green lurchers 16,959]

Neville is still young and I think one for the future, he needs to find some success and get some "good" experiences under his belt, I like him and think he talks a lot of sense, he knows the game inside out but his disastrous time in Spain and this recent England experience will have taken it's toll.

Would like to see him go back a step personally to move forward, a more natural progression in management would be good for him I think, but certainly one for the future IMO

 

Redknapp shouldv'e been the man, he done a great job at Spurs and was prime for the move, never understood why he never got it.

 

Of the English managers at the top now who would you pick?

 

Alan Pardew?? seems to have a good rapport with the players, but I'm not sure he's got the nous for it.

 

Sam Allardyce?? Max may have a point, he gets results by hook or by crook, don't like his style of play personally, but I suppose it's a very English way..

 

Steve Bruce?? steady manager, loads of experience now but doesn't do enough for me.

 

Eddie Howe?? definitely one for the future, I like the way his side plays, to keep them up last year without breaking the bank and by playing a bit of decent football shows he knows how to manage, few years away for me personally..

 

British

 

Mark Hughes?? was doing a decent job at Man City before he was shafted, got Stoke playing decent football, he's a decent manager IMO plus he's Welsh and those boys have it sussed lol

 

Ryan Giggs?? no not yet not done any thing.... but alongside Neville??...... no I'm talking shit!! lol

 

Brendan Rodgers?? he had that Liverpool side playing great football, but Suarez f****d off and it was deemed a one man team, a bit harsh maybe but the truth was they looked crap after...

 

Or do you go foreign??

none of them inspire me NK,,,, we don't need a survival before the slaughter manager we just had one of those,,, forgot to say I hope wales pull it off be a tough one for them but good luck to them

Edited July 1, 2016 by green lurchers

[bird 10,014]

 

 

 

 

Klinsman takes over & we start doing really well, but you'll show no interest? Too busy watching rugby? Haha....

 

Theres lines in sport you just cant cross in my opinion.

Do you English lads still think that maybe the media still builds your hopes a little high at times? Maybe the pressure gets to the players a bit, I know they handle pressure for there clubs but that's club pride they're playing for not national pride. I'd imagine playing for your country brings a different kind of pressure and the media loves to build them up but they also like to knock them down. England have players that a lot of teams would love to have but they can't seem to click as a unit for some reason, whatever the reason it's got to be maddening for you lads to take.

I still think the nation and the media put too much pressure on the team and they struggle to deliver.

 

On the tv last night they had a 15 minute segment about England, even though they're out. Then they decided to talk about Wales who are in the Q/F, the media create this elitist attitude around England and maybe that filters down to the players. You only have to watch these Euro's to see the emphasis that they put on England.

 

You've a squad of great players just not a great team on the field.

Definitely yes.....and not just the media but the public as well.......Johnny your lot are playing their biggest game in years tonight.....how many of the Welsh press and public are sitting eagerly anticipating their failure and subsequent humiliation ?......none would be my guess......we bang on about team spirit and togetherness in England when as a society we have none and cant wait to rip into them look at the public humiliation we put on poor Gareth Southgate and other such players who missed vital penalties.....even sinking as low as to make tv adverts ridiculing them ok its all a bit of fun but the intention to humiliate is there and its something no player wants on their cv hence its much of the reason they seem to play in fear in my opinion.......as a society and a media we love to build people up right to the very top as it makes an even bigger crash when we drag them down again its a horrible nasty trait we seem to have that no other country has......most countries admire and support their sporting stars particularly when representing the country.......we just cant do that we,re too busy looking for some scandal in their private lives to rip them to shreds on !

I've always thought that was the case tbh, ruthless as fck at times. I bet some of them lads reading the fallout over the years have felt like shit. Frightened of having a bad performance for fear of getting mullered then having a stinker because of pressure, I think they can't win at times with the media.

I think the only pressure on our boys tonight is what they'll put on themselves, nobody here is putting any on them. We all want them to do well but we'll not give them any crap and negativity if they don't.

 

hope they win johnny, really do and nice end thread mate

[NEWKID 27,925]

 

Neville is still young and I think one for the future, he needs to find some success and get some "good" experiences under his belt, I like him and think he talks a lot of sense, he knows the game inside out but his disastrous time in Spain and this recent England experience will have taken it's toll.

Would like to see him go back a step personally to move forward, a more natural progression in management would be good for him I think, but certainly one for the future IMO

 

Redknapp shouldv'e been the man, he done a great job at Spurs and was prime for the move, never understood why he never got it.

 

Of the English managers at the top now who would you pick?

 

Alan Pardew?? seems to have a good rapport with the players, but I'm not sure he's got the nous for it.

 

Sam Allardyce?? Max may have a point, he gets results by hook or by crook, don't like his style of play personally, but I suppose it's a very English way..

 

Steve Bruce?? steady manager, loads of experience now but doesn't do enough for me.

 

Eddie Howe?? definitely one for the future, I like the way his side plays, to keep them up last year without breaking the bank and by playing a bit of decent football shows he knows how to manage, few years away for me personally..

 

British

 

Mark Hughes?? was doing a decent job at Man City before he was shafted, got Stoke playing decent football, he's a decent manager IMO plus he's Welsh and those boys have it sussed lol

 

Ryan Giggs?? no not yet not done any thing.... but alongside Neville??...... no I'm talking shit!! lol

 

Brendan Rodgers?? he had that Liverpool side playing great football, but Suarez f****d off and it was deemed a one man team, a bit harsh maybe but the truth was they looked crap after...

 

Or do you go foreign??

none of them inspire me NK,,,, we don't need a survival before the slaughter manager we just had one of those,,, forgot to say I hope wales pull it off be a tough one for them but good luck to them

 

 

 

Me neither GL, hence my "or do you go foreign" as I can't think of one British manager that is ready or has the right attributes to do the job...

 

The last chance was Redknapp IMO, and the whole country felt the same... apart from the FA??

 

So where do they go now..

 

 

 

I hope Wales pull it off too as much as it pains me to say it lol

[johnny boy68 11,726]

[WILF 48,531]

I don't buy into the build them up to knock them down theory either, I do however think the vast majority of England fans are very unrealistic.

I know they are the England team but honestly, let's call a spade a spade, they have been a f***ing discrace at some point in nearly every major tournament for the last f**k knows how many years.

If they were a dog, you would shoot them no matter how much you loved the breeding.

 

I used to go down the hammers and pretty much know we were in for a pasting, it was just the manner in which we took it that would be the talking point of the day.......but if they were shit, lads said they were shit.

 

So it's two fold IMHO, England fans don't stop to think of how poor we are and build up unrealistic hopes then when it all gos boss eyed they take it out on the team instead of saying "well, I was just being silly"

The other is, the players do f**k all to make you love em.....just like that dog that you thought would be a world beater and wound up a wanker.

[Accip74 7,112]

Good luck to the welsh! But I'm backing the Belgians on this one................I have to integrate for the belgian passport I might be needing.......haha!

[Mister Gain 1,764]

Hope it all comes together for the Welsh, it would be nice to watch a good game tonight.

[shepp 2,285]

Good luck to the welsh! But I'm backing the Belgians on this one................I have to integrate for the belgian passport I might be needing.......haha!

Is there anything to integrate into?

From what I can tell it is just a fragmented group of European people's with a large amount 'blow in' of the worst kind for good measure.

[Accip74 7,112]

Good luck to the welsh! But I'm backing the Belgians on this one................I have to integrate for the belgian passport I might be needing.......haha!

Is there anything to integrate into?

From what I can tell it is just a fragmented group of European people's with a large amount 'blow in' of the worst kind for good measure.[/

 

From what I can tell you're talking bollocks mate...........but let's not ruin a good thread, eh? ;-)

Edited July 1, 2016 by Accip74

[baz 464]

Best of luck to the welsh team tonight,

[green lurchers 16,959]

be a tough game for wales , I do hope they win , whats the score predictions ? we gone for a Belgium win and a score of 2-1 90 mins money back if it goes to pens at paddy power

Edited July 1, 2016 by green lurchers

[NEWKID 27,925]

Good luck to the boyos,

[green lurchers 16,959]

Good luck to the boyos,

prediction NK ?

[gnasher16 30,696]

Just sat down to the Wales game good luck to you boys hopefully yous can snatch a little 1 nil.......i fear for you though watching Hazard the other day.....all the best

[gnasher16 30,696]

 

Maybe it's not a coach we need, but a social worker?

 

There's plenty of other countries with tabloid journalism as bad, if not worse than ours........it's not exclusive to the uk. Scandal within the french side has been all over their press running up to the tournament, can we blame that if they go out next?

I think the old 'build them up, knock them down......' argument is over used, although valid at times, it's not applicable for today's England football team, besides, we're talking individuals that's faced scandal, not the whole squad!...

 

...there's plenty of decent support for our sportsmen & women, with a lot success in other areas...........but we also have a habit of wheeling out old excuses ;-)

 

.....although relinquishing support if Klinsman becomes coach could be a new one haha..

 

I dont remember the French publically humiliating Trezeguet when he missed his penalty in the world cup final......far as I remember when Zidane got sent off for the head butt he was hailed a hero................we hung burning effigys and sent death threats to David Beckham when he got sent off !!

 

I wouldnt use our medias obsessive attempts to find scandal and create a level of vitriol usually saved for paedophiles and mass murderers as an excuse for losing i just think its a c**ts trick thats all too common among English football " support ".

Edited July 1, 2016 by gnasher16