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hodgeson has held England back many years , rooney should never have been out there and hope never pulls an England shirt again he got exposed in that role / position hes played in , he showed no quality or leadership value , not proud of it but I took the 8/1 on offer for Iceland,, mr gain I,m not surprised it was inevitable

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Thats the best game ive seen all tournament Wales are doing a Leicester here.....not the greatest team in the world but just want it more and are out hustling more talented opposition its amazing what

Oi oi oi mun, what's all this "we" and "you" I'm part of the "we" gang butty, I'm as Welsh as they come, Had laver bread for breakfast a Welsh cake and cuppa for lunch and just had a big bowl of Caw

Haha I'm only messing.   It's just been one of them fairy tale type story's for us and with it being the year of the underdog with Leicester so to speak we've kind of captured people's hearts. It's n

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That's half the prob with out lot

Attitude

Desire

Committment ect

 

They are millionaires nowdays before most have even heard of them.

They just don't want it as much

And for Crouch to blame pressure and expectation ffs

They supposed to be professional sportsmen

Premier league footballers.

They just not good enough at the end of the day and have not been since early to mid 90's.

Haha a bunch of flops!!
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Summed up by the fact that Englands man of the match was only on the pitch for 4 minutes !

And contributed what ?........Jesus Christ you couldn't make it up !

How would you feel if you were Vardy?.......was it just me that saw the dude defending from the front?......slinging himself into tackles......trying to inject some spark?

 

Deluded !

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Summed up by the fact that Englands man of the match was only on the pitch for 4 minutes !

And contributed what ?........Jesus Christ you couldn't make it up !

How would you feel if you were Vardy?.......was it just me that saw the dude defending from the front?......slinging himself into tackles......trying to inject some spark?

Deluded !

Agreed, he gives his all and can finish, why he wasn't started with I'll never know.

Kane looked spent from the first game, sterling well what can you say feel a bit sorry for him tbh he should never have started

And why wait until the last 4 minute to put Rashford on, before he done that he put Cahill up front ffs!

Panic from the bench to the pitch, there are good players amongst those lads but they were never set up right and wrong starting line up.

A good manager would have sorted that at half time, still can't believe how bad we were though.

How many times did the ball go under their foot, and bounce off them, it was unreal how bad they all were individually

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Ring ring......

 

Ring ring.......

 

"Allo"

 

"Andreas it's Wayne......"

 

"Wayne?......Wayne who?......"

 

"Wayne Rooney laa "

 

"Oh cee cee, Wayne, how can I help you"

 

Giggling can be heard from the Spanish end

 

"I wonder if I could pop over with a ball and my boots to run through a few things?.........hello?.......hello?.........are you still there?"

 

Lol

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England need their new manager to recognise the national characteristics and strengths and play a settled ,recognised style and system ,a high tempo ,pressing game ,you don't have to sacrifice skill and technique to achieve this ,a system were every player knows exactly what his role is ,a system that is so deeply embedded in their psyche that it becomes second nature ,they can all play it naturally when under pressure they don't have to think about anything else .

He must be strong enough to resist the clamour to include inform players and flavour of the month players ,if they don't suit the system or can't perform within the established way of playing ,he should recognise this .

The best players don't necessarily mean the best team ,trying to shoe horn some players ,whatever their abilities , into a TEAM is counter productive .

The new man must be a strong character ,someone the players trust ,someone they believe in ,someone the will run through the proverbial brick wall for .

 

 

Will we get him ?

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From a non-technical point of view, but that of an Englishman, perhaps these prima donnas need it drummed into them they aren't half as good as they think they are. In fact worse than that. They invariably let down their supporters. They always promise so much and deliver nothing. They should hang their heads in shame.

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poor old gnasher...all that way to watch that

It's the fans like that I feel sorry for, spending all that money and then being let down by them in that fashion is gut wrenching for them.

Make no bones about it that was a piss poor performance by England and the players and manager deserve all the fall out. Passion been talked about a lot in this tournament and England didn't have any last night.

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Iceland. :laugh:

deff , he would have got together 13 players that want to play/and can play , not like fookin woy . we not world class players, and the sooner them+us accept it , then we can improve at the game, not pretend to . :yes:

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