Carlovian 592 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 I believe there are great dogs in every country. But I believe here in the states and Mexico is were you will find more game dogs then any were else..and I also believe that if you scatter bred your dog's you lesson your chances of getting anything good..I would never scatter breed anything. You lack consistency and will loose the traits you like. I think line breeding is the best way to stay consistent..But all the bloodline that get real tight ,,usually produce weak low standard dogs ,,, any how who said ,,all dogs in Europe , East Europe are scatter bred,,? the lines I'm going by that are very tight bred ,,that are now poor dogs ,,are Colby , Old Family red nose , Mayfield ,, Nobody said the European dogs are all scatter bred, but I know they liked to breed best to best. I've been on certain forums and the boys from the east don't half like to brag about how superior their dogs are because of the rules they use.... They brag because they can get away with it,,, if people who could brag , from other areas did it ,,they not have dogs for too long,,, 1 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 I believe there are great dogs in every country. But I believe here in the states and Mexico is were you will find more game dogs then any were else..and I also believe that if you scatter bred your dog's you lesson your chances of getting anything good..I would never scatter breed anything. You lack consistency and will loose the traits you like. I think line breeding is the best way to stay consistent..But all the bloodline that get real tight ,,usually produce weak low standard dogs ,,, any how who said ,,all dogs in Europe , East Europe are scatter bred,,? the lines I'm going by that are very tight bred ,,that are now poor dogs ,,are Colby , Old Family red nose , Mayfield ,,Nobody said the European dogs are all scatter bred, but I know they liked to breed best to best. I've been on certain forums and the boys from the east don't half like to brag about how superior their dogs are because of the rules they use.... They brag because they can get away with it,,, if people who could brag , from other areas did it ,,they not have dogs for too long,,, Exactly, they use rules that draw out a match and brag that it's tougher on the dogs which in turn creates better dogs. We started the breed but I dare say the Yanks have perfected it.... 1 Quote Link to post
Silversnake 1,099 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 I believe there are great dogs in every country. But I believe here in the states and Mexico is were you will find more game dogs then any were else..and I also believe that if you scatter bred your dog's you lesson your chances of getting anything good..I would never scatter breed anything. You lack consistency and will loose the traits you like. I think line breeding is the best way to stay consistent.. But all the bloodline that get real tight ,,usually produce weak low standard dogs ,,, any how who said ,,all dogs in Europe , East Europe are scatter bred,,? the lines I'm going by that are very tight bred ,,that are now poor dogs ,,are Colby , Old Family red nose , Mayfield ,,Nobody said the European dogs are all scatter bred, but I know they liked to breed best to best. I've been on certain forums and the boys from the east don't half like to brag about how superior their dogs are because of the rules they use....I think the only advantage east European lads have is their laws aren't as tough. If I was left in peace I have no doubt I could produce some cracking dogs and i am sure many are in the same boat. I have seen some Japanese bulldogs and there were some heavy mouthed dogs, but all the ones I saw were overweight and lacked athleticism. The laws are very relaxed there too, forever may it last.I've seen large dogs in China and Korea that resemble Bulldog x Tosa mixes and they are game as they come despite not being in great condition.When I say Japanese bulldogs I meant apbt in Japan not tosa. I did see tosa as well, I actually saw one of the best tosa of all time! He had retired to stud and he was a big powerful beast. I have to say the videos and live action I saw I cannot call them 'game'I know what you meant. I'm talking about Pit mixes I've seen in China and Korea.Was it very big over there? I have heard of some huge yards in China. Don't know much about korea. I can't imagine any of them being very professional with keeps and diet, I hope I am wrong though. Quote Link to post
Dead Eyes 681 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 They love a gamble, and looking at some of the stock that's been bought then I'd imagine their keeps are up with the best in the world I think this number is correct, but Google kennel 7297 1 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Seeing as though the Americans didn't add anything to the mix to create their Pitdogs yet got the name for them I wonder how long it will be before we have breeds like the Russian Pitbull Terrier, the Serbian Pitbull Terrier, the Japanese Pitbull Terrier... Quote Link to post
Silversnake 1,099 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 They love a gamble, and looking at some of the stock that's been bought then I'd imagine their keeps are up with the best in the world I think this number is correct, but Google kennel 7297 I struggled with the language but there were some nice looking dogs in the pictures. Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Look at Gr Ch Thunder of Japan, a serious Bulldog indeed..... Quote Link to post
Silversnake 1,099 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Seeing as though the Americans didn't add anything to the mix to create their Pitdogs yet got the name for them I wonder how long it will be before we have breeds like the Russian Pitbull Terrier, the Serbian Pitbull Terrier, the Japanese Pitbull Terrier...I do hope so, someone has to keep these dogs going. The coalition countries which created and near on perfected these beasts have somehow been overrun by politically correct, vegan, peace loving, animal welfare pussies. F#+k that! 3 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 It's the game that made these animals the amazing dogs they are, weight pulling ain't gone preserve the breed I'm afraid.... Quote Link to post
Sirblessed 2,511 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 My Daughters pup (out of Kass) Gemma 4 months old Beautiful 2 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Great interview of the Pitbull writer Richard Stratton..... https://youtu.be/uwCkcnccXmw Quote Link to post
Sirblessed 2,511 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 About f time too http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/pit-bull-ban-may-be-lifted-after-parliamentary-committee-finds-it-is-impossible-to-tell-if-theyre-more-dangerous-than-other-dogs-20160323-gnp88x.html Again it is really about the money costing the council a fortune in legal costs and admin Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 About f time too http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/pit-bull-ban-may-be-lifted-after-parliamentary-committee-finds-it-is-impossible-to-tell-if-theyre-more-dangerous-than-other-dogs-20160323-gnp88x.html Again it is really about the money costing the council a fortune in legal costs and admin Hopefully it happens over here one day... Quote Link to post
bird 9,894 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Great interview of the Pitbull writer Richard Stratton..... https://youtu.be/uwCkcnccXmw yeh very good, ive got 3 of his books,all good reads Quote Link to post
BGD 6,436 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 My Daughters pup (out of Kass) Gemma 4 months old Beautiful She's a stunner pal and looks a fair size for her age too! Will your daughter be training her up as a ferreting dog? Might not be conventional work for bulldogs but I've been quite impressed with how steady you've got your bitch and she obviously loves her work Quote Link to post
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