Blackbriar 8,569 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 So, I discovered that the spring had broken in my old Stoeger X20S.... Instead of a factory replacement (about 8 quid !), I pushed the boat out and got a Titan, which was duly fitted for me by a friend who knows about these things - I'm not "technically gifted", you see ! Any how, it now makes the most horrific " bong" when it's fired, and recoils much more than it used to. Once I've got a good few pellets through, and necessary adjustments made, can I expect it to quieten down significantly ? Frankly, it's embarrassing to fire at the moment... It was an accurate, powerful gun, so it would be a shame not to be able to use it any more.......... Cheers BB Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 What ft/lb's is it pushing? Quote Link to post
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted May 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 What ft/lb's is it pushing? When the spring was fitted, chrony showed 11.2, so I think it will need turning down a bit, once the spring has bedded in ? 1 Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Titan's are good for Spring rifle FAC conversion like my HW80. It has a Titan No.4( I think) spring. But not in a Stoeger. It will possibly smash your scope too. It is unlikely you'll see any meaningful reduction in BOING with this Titan spring, Blackbriar. Quote Link to post
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted May 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Titan's are good for Spring rifle FAC conversion like my HW80. It has a Titan No.4( I think) spring. But not in a Stoeger. It will possibly smash your scope too. It is unlikely you'll see any meaningful reduction in BOING with this Titan spring, Blackbriar. I know that you're one of the fellas here who really knows his stuff, PM. Do you think I might be better off putting a factory spring back in, before any damage is done ? 2 Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 YES! Titan's are good for Spring rifle FAC conversion like my HW80. It has a Titan No.4( I think) spring. But not in a Stoeger. It will possibly smash your scope too. It is unlikely you'll see any meaningful reduction in BOING with this Titan spring, Blackbriar. I know that you're one of the fellas here who really knows his stuff, PM.Do you think I might be better off putting a factory spring back in, before any damage is done ? I should Blackbriar. Yes. Titans are powerful and from what I can see from Google images of your rifle, the Stoeger's cylinder is not big enough to take in the amout of whack these springs can push out. If yours is doing what you say, it is going to exert a lot of recoil shock on your scope. My HW80 will wreck a scope that cannot stand the recoil at this level of whack. Quote Link to post
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted May 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 YES! Titan's are good for Spring rifle FAC conversion like my HW80. It has a Titan No.4( I think) spring. But not in a Stoeger. It will possibly smash your scope too. It is unlikely you'll see any meaningful reduction in BOING with this Titan spring, Blackbriar. I know that you're one of the fellas here who really knows his stuff, PM. Do you think I might be better off putting a factory spring back in, before any damage is done ? I should Blackbriar. Yes. Titans are powerful and from what I can see from Google images of your rifle, the Stoeger's cylinder is not big enough to take in the amout of whack these springs can push out. If yours is doing what you say, it is going to exert a lot of recoil shock on your scope. My HW80 will wreck a scope that cannot stand the recoil at this level of whack. I'll file this under "solved" ! Advice doesn't come much clearer than that ! 1 Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Better this than a wrecked rifle internals and scope Blackbriar. No reason I know of why your Stoeger shouldn't perform well at high 10+ to 11+ ft/lbs with a standard factory spring. And you keep your scope alive and healthy! If the rifle isn't built for FAC performance, it will be a dog to shoot with any meaningful accuracy, bark like hell, have an unmanageable recoil cycle and do more damage than good. To say nothing of how fed up and hacked off you'll become with it. This is why I don't have my HW77 .22 on my ticket at FAC power. It wasn't designed for it and 77s start to perform utterly poorly once they start to go above 16 ft/lbs. Have your mate perform a nice internal polish of the internals and trigger components; and de-burr the spring if it needs it and he knows his spring rifle servicing. You'll have a much sweeter rifle that cocks and shoots very nicely with no snap, twang barking horrors. Glad to be of service sir. Quote Link to post
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted May 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Better this than a wrecked rifle internals and scope Blackbriar. No reason I know of why your Stoeger shouldn't perform well at high 10+ to 11+ ft/lbs with a standard factory spring. And you keep your scope alive and healthy! If the rifle isn't built for FAC performance, it will be a dog to shoot with any meaningful accuracy, bark like hell, have an unmanageable recoil cycle and do more damage than good. To say nothing of how fed up and hacked off you'll become with it. This is why I don't have my HW77 .22 on my ticket at FAC power. It wasn't designed for it and 77s start to perform utterly poorly once they start to go above 16 ft/lbs. Have your mate perform a nice internal polish of the internals and trigger components; and de-burr the spring if it needs it and he knows his spring rifle servicing. You'll have a much sweeter rifle that cocks and shoots very nicely with no snap, twang barking horrors. Glad to be of service sir. The internals were polished when the spring went. With its original spring, and before polishing, it pushed 11.4 ft/lb with great accuracy, so putting a factory spring back in will cause no hardships ! Thanks again. BB 1 Quote Link to post
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