green lurchers 16,797 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Jo Cox wrote an article on Brexit and EU immigration just before she was assassinated... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3648556/Don-t-fall-Leave-campaign-s-spin-PM-Jo-Cox-used-message-four-days-died-support-plans-curb-EU-migrants.html First, Brexit doesn't guarantee that migration will come down. In fact, a more liberal approach to non-EU immigration as advocated by the Leave camp could actually see it increase. Australia whose points-based system is so admired by Outers has twice as many migrants per person than we do. The whole purpose of their system is to allow businesses to control who comes into their country. For us, this would lead to an increase in cheap labour, bringing down wages and doing nothing to ease voter concerns about insecure employment. what she missed was, a points styled system dosnt mean it will be the same as Australia , another twisted view of the remain camp , if you are in control it dosnt mean you have to let anyone in and you make your own rules up as I see it , me personally id only let folk in if they had a benefit to the country which rules out most who turn up at the moment What you think benefits the country and what politicians serving big business think benefit the country are vastly different things I bet pal. They'll be the ones deciding who comes in. What makes you think the current lot of politicians wouldn't continue serving big business and importing loads of unskilled workers like they do now? You think they'll turn off the supply of low wage workers for their pals in business? theres only so many workers employed washing cars , how many car washers do we let in ? I agree the current lot don't give a fk , the remain camp is all about business the man in the street wants to save his country getting overwhelmed and is used to getting fkd by politicians from day one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Jo Cox wrote an article on Brexit and EU immigration just before she was assassinated... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3648556/Don-t-fall-Leave-campaign-s-spin-PM-Jo-Cox-used-message-four-days-died-support-plans-curb-EU-migrants.html First, Brexit doesn't guarantee that migration will come down. In fact, a more liberal approach to non-EU immigration as advocated by the Leave camp could actually see it increase. Australia whose points-based system is so admired by Outers has twice as many migrants per person than we do. The whole purpose of their system is to allow businesses to control who comes into their country. For us, this would lead to an increase in cheap labour, bringing down wages and doing nothing to ease voter concerns about insecure employment. what she missed was, a points styled system dosnt mean it will be the same as Australia , another twisted view of the remain camp , if you are in control it dosnt mean you have to let anyone in and you make your own rules up as I see it , me personally id only let folk in if they had a benefit to the country which rules out most who turn up at the moment What you think benefits the country and what politicians serving big business think benefit the country are vastly different things I bet pal. They'll be the ones deciding who comes in. What makes you think the current lot of politicians wouldn't continue serving big business and importing loads of unskilled workers like they do now? You think they'll turn off the supply of low wage workers for their pals in business? Why are you taking so much from what Jo Cox said, she was a nobody that hardly anybody had heard of until she was tragically murdered. Now your putting snippets up like she was some kind of visionary. I shared an article with an interesting take on immigration after Brexit (actually something I've mentioned on here before), would have shared it no matter who wrote it it just happens that it's been quite prominent in the media because it was written by a recently murdered MP. I've shared loads of articles in this thread, why is it suddenly wrong when it's written by Jo Cox? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Jo Cox wrote an article on Brexit and EU immigration just before she was assassinated... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3648556/Don-t-fall-Leave-campaign-s-spin-PM-Jo-Cox-used-message-four-days-died-support-plans-curb-EU-migrants.html First, Brexit doesn't guarantee that migration will come down. In fact, a more liberal approach to non-EU immigration as advocated by the Leave camp could actually see it increase. Australia whose points-based system is so admired by Outers has twice as many migrants per person than we do. The whole purpose of their system is to allow businesses to control who comes into their country. For us, this would lead to an increase in cheap labour, bringing down wages and doing nothing to ease voter concerns about insecure employment. what she missed was, a points styled system dosnt mean it will be the same as Australia , another twisted view of the remain camp , if you are in control it dosnt mean you have to let anyone in and you make your own rules up as I see it , me personally id only let folk in if they had a benefit to the country which rules out most who turn up at the moment What you think benefits the country and what politicians serving big business think benefit the country are vastly different things I bet pal. They'll be the ones deciding who comes in. What makes you think the current lot of politicians wouldn't continue serving big business and importing loads of unskilled workers like they do now? You think they'll turn off the supply of low wage workers for their pals in business? Why are you taking so much from what Jo Cox said, she was a nobody that hardly anybody had heard of until she was tragically murdered. Now your putting snippets up like she was some kind of visionary.I shared an article with an interesting take on immigration after Brexit (actually something I've mentioned on here before), would have shared it no matter who wrote it it just happens that it's been quite prominent in the media because it was written by a recently murdered MP. I've shared loads of articles in this thread, why is it suddenly wrong when it's written by Jo Cox? It's just that I've seen on Facebook that people are using pictures of her with a sound bite attached like she was a visionary or something, when in reality she wasn't, it's like people using her death like a little point scoring exercise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Jo Cox wrote an article on Brexit and EU immigration just before she was assassinated... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3648556/Don-t-fall-Leave-campaign-s-spin-PM-Jo-Cox-used-message-four-days-died-support-plans-curb-EU-migrants.html First, Brexit doesn't guarantee that migration will come down. In fact, a more liberal approach to non-EU immigration as advocated by the Leave camp could actually see it increase. Australia whose points-based system is so admired by Outers has twice as many migrants per person than we do. The whole purpose of their system is to allow businesses to control who comes into their country. For us, this would lead to an increase in cheap labour, bringing down wages and doing nothing to ease voter concerns about insecure employment. what she missed was, a points styled system dosnt mean it will be the same as Australia , another twisted view of the remain camp , if you are in control it dosnt mean you have to let anyone in and you make your own rules up as I see it , me personally id only let folk in if they had a benefit to the country which rules out most who turn up at the moment What you think benefits the country and what politicians serving big business think benefit the country are vastly different things I bet pal. They'll be the ones deciding who comes in. What makes you think the current lot of politicians wouldn't continue serving big business and importing loads of unskilled workers like they do now? You think they'll turn off the supply of low wage workers for their pals in business? Why are you taking so much from what Jo Cox said, she was a nobody that hardly anybody had heard of until she was tragically murdered. Now your putting snippets up like she was some kind of visionary.I shared an article with an interesting take on immigration after Brexit (actually something I've mentioned on here before), would have shared it no matter who wrote it it just happens that it's been quite prominent in the media because it was written by a recently murdered MP. I've shared loads of articles in this thread, why is it suddenly wrong when it's written by Jo Cox? It's just that I've seen on Facebook that people are using pictures of her with a sound bite attached like she was a visionary or something, when in reality she wasn't, it's like people using her death like a little point scoring exercise. Ok so you've seen some distasteful stuff on Facebook... What's that got to do with me sharing an article? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,845 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Brexit won't change immigration. The incompetent, theiving traitors who milk this country will still try to keep their stranglehold.......but Brexit is the first step to holding them to account, the only available step to take. If we keep on the same path, the country will stay on the same path. Even though you pretend it dosnt 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Jo Cox wrote an article on Brexit and EU immigration just before she was assassinated... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3648556/Don-t-fall-Leave-campaign-s-spin-PM-Jo-Cox-used-message-four-days-died-support-plans-curb-EU-migrants.html First, Brexit doesn't guarantee that migration will come down. In fact, a more liberal approach to non-EU immigration as advocated by the Leave camp could actually see it increase. Australia whose points-based system is so admired by Outers has twice as many migrants per person than we do. The whole purpose of their system is to allow businesses to control who comes into their country. For us, this would lead to an increase in cheap labour, bringing down wages and doing nothing to ease voter concerns about insecure employment. what she missed was, a points styled system dosnt mean it will be the same as Australia , another twisted view of the remain camp , if you are in control it dosnt mean you have to let anyone in and you make your own rules up as I see it , me personally id only let folk in if they had a benefit to the country which rules out most who turn up at the moment What you think benefits the country and what politicians serving big business think benefit the country are vastly different things I bet pal. They'll be the ones deciding who comes in. What makes you think the current lot of politicians wouldn't continue serving big business and importing loads of unskilled workers like they do now? You think they'll turn off the supply of low wage workers for their pals in business? Why are you taking so much from what Jo Cox said, she was a nobody that hardly anybody had heard of until she was tragically murdered. Now your putting snippets up like she was some kind of visionary.I shared an article with an interesting take on immigration after Brexit (actually something I've mentioned on here before), would have shared it no matter who wrote it it just happens that it's been quite prominent in the media because it was written by a recently murdered MP. I've shared loads of articles in this thread, why is it suddenly wrong when it's written by Jo Cox? It's just that I've seen on Facebook that people are using pictures of her with a sound bite attached like she was a visionary or something, when in reality she wasn't, it's like people using her death like a little point scoring exercise.Ok so you've seen some distasteful stuff on Facebook... What's that got to do with me sharing an article?Just thought being a lefty, you were doing the same as I'd not seen any mention of her until she was killed. Now low and behold your using something she said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Jo Cox wrote an article on Brexit and EU immigration just before she was assassinated... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3648556/Don-t-fall-Leave-campaign-s-spin-PM-Jo-Cox-used-message-four-days-died-support-plans-curb-EU-migrants.html First, Brexit doesn't guarantee that migration will come down. In fact, a more liberal approach to non-EU immigration as advocated by the Leave camp could actually see it increase. Australia whose points-based system is so admired by Outers has twice as many migrants per person than we do. The whole purpose of their system is to allow businesses to control who comes into their country. For us, this would lead to an increase in cheap labour, bringing down wages and doing nothing to ease voter concerns about insecure employment. what she missed was, a points styled system dosnt mean it will be the same as Australia , another twisted view of the remain camp , if you are in control it dosnt mean you have to let anyone in and you make your own rules up as I see it , me personally id only let folk in if they had a benefit to the country which rules out most who turn up at the moment What you think benefits the country and what politicians serving big business think benefit the country are vastly different things I bet pal. They'll be the ones deciding who comes in. What makes you think the current lot of politicians wouldn't continue serving big business and importing loads of unskilled workers like they do now? You think they'll turn off the supply of low wage workers for their pals in business? Why are you taking so much from what Jo Cox said, she was a nobody that hardly anybody had heard of until she was tragically murdered. Now your putting snippets up like she was some kind of visionary.I shared an article with an interesting take on immigration after Brexit (actually something I've mentioned on here before), would have shared it no matter who wrote it it just happens that it's been quite prominent in the media because it was written by a recently murdered MP. I've shared loads of articles in this thread, why is it suddenly wrong when it's written by Jo Cox? It's just that I've seen on Facebook that people are using pictures of her with a sound bite attached like she was a visionary or something, when in reality she wasn't, it's like people using her death like a little point scoring exercise.Ok so you've seen some distasteful stuff on Facebook... What's that got to do with me sharing an article?Just thought being a lefty, you were doing the same as I'd not seen any mention of her until she was killed. Now low and behold your using something she said. Well as I said it was an interesting article that I would have shared regardless of who wrote it Out of interest did you read the article? What are your thoughts on the points raised? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 I don't know about anyone else, but I disagree with the points she raised in the article. I'll maybe go into more detail tomorrow as I'm struggling to stay awake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) Boris Johnson "pro-immigration, and in favour of amnesty for illegal immigrants" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-illegal-immigrants-immigration-amnesty-eu-referendum-vote-leave-a7090246.html He said: Yes, let us take back control of our borders with a sensible, fair and impartial system. And let me take on this issue absolutely directly. Because I am pro-immigration, my friends. I am the proud descendent of Turkish immigrants. And let me stun you, perhaps, by saying I would go further. I am not only pro-immigration, Im pro-immigrants, but I am in favour of an amnesty for illegal immigrants who have been here for more than 12 years, unable to contribute to this economy, unable to pay taxes, unable to take proper part in society. Edited June 19, 2016 by BGD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 It's not about stopping all immigration, it's about stopping uncontrolled EU migration.. It's about having the choice and a say on the matter.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 I'd like to thank Jeremy Corbyn for promoting the leave campaign despite being a remain supporter. According to him, staying in would mean "no upper limit to EU migration." Farage couldn't have put it better himself. The bloke's a real bellend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 I'd like to thank Jeremy Corbyn for promoting the leave campaign despite being a remain supporter. According to him, staying in would mean "no upper limit to EU migration." Farage couldn't have put it better himself. The bloke's a real bellend. I suppose he should have lied? As we all know free movement is an integral part of the EU and with free movement there will never be any limit or cap on EU migration. Shows the state of politics when honesty is something to be mocked Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 The man doesn't know when to speak and when not to speak. (luckily in this case.) and yes, politics has been like that for too long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 I'd like to thank Jeremy Corbyn for promoting the leave campaign despite being a remain supporter. According to him, staying in would mean "no upper limit to EU migration." Farage couldn't have put it better himself. The bloke's a real bellend. I suppose he should have lied? As we all know free movement is an integral part of the EU and with free movement there will never be any limit or cap on EU migration. Shows the state of politics when honesty is something to be mocked That's one of the reasons we should get out don't you think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Jo Cox wrote an article on Brexit and EU immigration just before she was assassinated... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3648556/Don-t-fall-Leave-campaign-s-spin-PM-Jo-Cox-used-message-four-days-died-support-plans-curb-EU-migrants.html First, Brexit doesn't guarantee that migration will come down. In fact, a more liberal approach to non-EU immigration as advocated by the Leave camp could actually see it increase. Australia whose points-based system is so admired by Outers has twice as many migrants per person than we do. The whole purpose of their system is to allow businesses to control who comes into their country. For us, this would lead to an increase in cheap labour, bringing down wages and doing nothing to ease voter concerns about insecure employment. what she missed was, a points styled system dosnt mean it will be the same as Australia , another twisted view of the remain camp , if you are in control it dosnt mean you have to let anyone in and you make your own rules up as I see it , me personally id only let folk in if they had a benefit to the country which rules out most who turn up at the moment What you think benefits the country and what politicians serving big business think benefit the country are vastly different things I bet pal. They'll be the ones deciding who comes in. What makes you think the current lot of politicians wouldn't continue serving big business and importing loads of unskilled workers like they do now? You think they'll turn off the supply of low wage workers for their pals in business? Why are you taking so much from what Jo Cox said, she was a nobody that hardly anybody had heard of until she was tragically murdered. Now your putting snippets up like she was some kind of visionary.I shared an article with an interesting take on immigration after Brexit (actually something I've mentioned on here before), would have shared it no matter who wrote it it just happens that it's been quite prominent in the media because it was written by a recently murdered MP. I've shared loads of articles in this thread, why is it suddenly wrong when it's written by Jo Cox? It's just that I've seen on Facebook that people are using pictures of her with a sound bite attached like she was a visionary or something, when in reality she wasn't, it's like people using her death like a little point scoring exercise.Ok so you've seen some distasteful stuff on Facebook... What's that got to do with me sharing an article?Just thought being a lefty, you were doing the same as I'd not seen any mention of her until she was killed. Now low and behold your using something she said.Well as I said it was an interesting article that I would have shared regardless of who wrote it Out of interest did you read the article? What are your thoughts on the points raised? Yes I read the article, she's saying nothing that the Remain camp hasn't already. They're all saying that we can control immigration better by being in the EU, well how's that be going so far? It's spin, nothing more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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