How Fast..

[Dan McDonough 560]

The Vitesse and Quixand and later Quixandz whippets are the fastest over here right now. That doesn't always mean they are the best hunters. If you don't have a little Lyth in there the dogs they'll break a lot easier. There is a cirlcle of people that are making exceptionally fast whippets over here right and it's really fun to have had a few of those dogs.

 

Here is the dog that did the 10.8 seconds. The dogs name is Ringdove Black Adder.

 

https://whippet.breedarchive.com/animal/view/548

 

There is getting to be a small but growing group of guys that are slowly getting some of that blood out from the whippet women. It's not easy. The breed (even the racers) are dominated by fat, old, socialist, women that have a deffinate opinion of howthe world should work and are even more opinionated about who is allowed to buy their dogs. It's a shame because I know a lot of guys that treat their whippets like little princes and princesses at home and in how they feed and care for their dogs but because they are hunting their dogs, the above group hates them and by in large, will not sell a dog to them.

 

Over the last few years I have owned 6 whippets of various breeding and they are absolutely fantastic dogs. Most of them would fight whatever you put them to and fight to win even when the going got very tough. They'll try to catch anything and that's a lot of fun for what you guys called a general moocher.

 

I was very surprised when, in top shape, I was seeing speeds out of a couple of the fastest whippets I measured that were well above what I had been told they could do. Conditioning is everything, as long as they have the proper fuel to do the job.

 

If someone made a crossbreed that maintained nearly all of the character, speed and agility of the best whippets I've seen but was able to add tough skin and a tough coat to go along with it, I don't see where a pair or a trio of them couldn't take all game here from coyote on down. The difficult thing is to maintain that blistering speed.

 

A while ago I noticed that some strains of jagdterriers, mostly American bred strains, were way faster than they should have been. That is the route I'm taking in making something that suits a hard hunter that wants a dog that is whippet fast. It's going to take a while to get the right mix but it seems pretty obvious that it can be done from what I've seen so far. As of right now I'm on the first cross of this journey but I'm no rookie and I can see it working out in the future. I'll be mixing it with a little stag and a little collie along the way but maintaining the whippet abilty. I'm doing this at the same time while breeding a standard sized lurcher bred for the American range of game. What ever comes of all of this, I'm having one hell of a good time doing it.

[Dan McDonough 560]

The whippet in my avatar is my favorite of the bunch I had. Here is a picture of his littermate brother:

 

 

And my old Mikey dog:

 

 

https://whippet.breedarchive.com/animal/view/166894

Edited May 15, 2016 by Dan McDonough

[Dan McDonough 560]

The first of the whippet x jagdterrier cross is this one, named Diesel:

 

 

Obviously, the size will have to come up from here. Diesel is about 18" right now and will likely make 19 when he's done growing. I want to eventually end up around 21"-24".

[the pikey poacher 1,157]

I remember a while back there was a similair thread of guy who said he'd clocked his dog around 40mph and everyone laughed at him. I've never clocked any of my dogs but it's a fact that hates are the fastest land mammal in Britain and can reach speeds of up to 40mph. Any decent hare dog can get up to a hare flat out and turn it. Therefore, surely it is logical to believe that a decent lurcher can run at speeds of over 40mph? I may be wrong or missing something but it's a point.

i chased a hare across a field a few years back and i clocked him at 48 mph for a good 40 seconds so i recon a lurcher does 50 to 55 and a pure greyhound 58 to 60 jmo but i think im right atb pp

[morton 5,368]

Hats of to you fella hope I'm doing that sort of miles on a bike when I'm 62

Its running alongside the motor in the first post,at 62 years of age id have thought he may have learnt from years of mistakes,just goes to show your never to old.

[dytkos 17,820]

 

Hats of to you fella hope I'm doing that sort of miles on a bike when I'm 62

 

Its running alongside the motor in the first post,at 62 years of age id have thought he may have learnt from years of mistakes,just goes to show your never to old.

Any need for that?

 

Cheers, D.

[morton 5,368]

 

 

Hats of to you fella hope I'm doing that sort of miles on a bike when I'm 62

Its running alongside the motor in the first post,at 62 years of age id have thought he may have learnt from years of mistakes,just goes to show your never to old.

Any need for that?

 

Cheers, D.

 

Possibly,the amount of times, on sites like this ,that more experienced lurcher owners advocate practice that may influence the youngsters getting into the game,an influence that,s often misguided,at best.

[boyo 1,398]

Clocked one of my Beddy x whpts at 63mph behind the truck .... Gonna try again without the lead on as soon as her pads heal ??? Atb

[TOMO 26,783]

Top stuff Byron keep at it.....

 

One thing though ,,what voon said on an earlier post,,,,37 mph on your speedometer ,,,,won't actually be that speed,,,it will be lower...

 

Morton lots of lads run dogs alongside the motor to keep them fit,,just use your head,,and do it somwhere safe...

 

What I realy want to know about Byron ,,is your trip abroad with the dog,,,tell us more about that,,did you catch any rabbits or game in Morocco ?

[byron 1,189]

tomo..........I aint no lurcher man,haha..dog ran hare in moroc/and Portugal,,do as you like out there. not catch though.. the ground is two hellish,,and dangerous did have a crazy idea to race him against a stunning looking stallion in tagazout moroc on the beach,,but the wife would not let me...lol..still regret that...yep speedo's usually about ten per cent out..yep were I live,i have competion in the form of old lass coming up eighty,and her accomplises couple middle seventies see em most nights with there runners there crazed for it...lol........

[TOMO 26,783]

Plenty of rabbits in Spain Byron on your way down,,,,do you go by road ,,,camper,,or caravan,,,or just in the car?

 

Anyway can't beat what your doing,,,keep them fit and active,,good grub and warm bed...it's a good life

[byron 1,189]

camper tomo..like portugal better than spain,alot cheaper,,although them Spanish allus take an interest in me dog.. place I was at in Portugal lets me have fire's [love lighting fire's and sitting out] and you can walk anywere,, forever..hunting hound signs all over..i;m in the position with my life were we just sod of in the van..so get it done,life short/cruel.this winter who know,s maybe back to maroc,and time in Portugal. on way home..

maroc.

camper/running ground.

wild boar!!

got this wild boar of an Austrian guy,,who had a contact [the police shot seven night before]he asked me if I could butcher it,,told me in broken English it was a suckler..it was that big I could of rode it..it was that big he had to get a lift in a car to fetch it back..i shared it with some French hunters,,love there grub them frenchies.hahaha.. the morocs[muslims] was frightened to death of the carcass when I cleaned it,,and sat round the fire amazed and disgusted when I was cooking it..what a laugh that was..

 

 

 

[TOMO 26,783]

You should do a few threads mate,,I love this kind of stuff,,I love travel and with hunting and interesting story's and meeting interesting folk,,makes for great reading,,,

[byron 1,189]

lots of stories tomo.. I don't do package holidays..and my misses will go anywere..

sat round fire's with gypsies and travellers..love it.

how about smoking green with Bedouin ..middle of fxckin nowhere..

or lighting dynamite in local working mens club..[especially when the fuse gets shorter and shorter..that was hairy..lol..

crossing the saddle on way up Kilimanjaro..amazing place.. the stars at mwenzie tarn..Ballooning across masai mara..

aborted trip to timbukto..

dugout canoe's in india..

sat with fire in Tanzania,,surrounded by the most amazing night time sounds...hyena/lion etc..and thinking I could get eaten here..

and one of me favorites.... pissing on me mates younger brother [we climbed on his concrete roof above front door.] when he joined the police..with his uniform on..lol..........

but were ever ya go, mix with the locals,,they allways try to scam ya..and then when its a no go they'll share there last penny with ya..

but were ever I've wandered,, I still love were I live...

[byron 1,189]

 

 

 

Hats of to you fella hope I'm doing that sort of miles on a bike when I'm 62

Its running alongside the motor in the first post,at 62 years of age id have thought he may have learnt from years of mistakes,just goes to show your never to old.

Any need for that?

 

Cheers, D.

 

Possibly,the amount of times, on sites like this ,that more experienced lurcher owners advocate practice that may influence the youngsters getting into the game,an influence that,s often misguided,at best.

 

influence mate, you might need it, but me, don't think so..