Hydropotesinermis 724 Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Hi gents. I do a bit of stalking, I currently stalk with. 2506 and. 308 I fancy a change... Not necessarily right now, maybe in the next 5 years depending on what it is goimg to cost me but I am lookimg to begin a bit of research into something I saw on here that has peaked my interest. In short I want to know if it is possible and legal to shoot deer in the UK with a bloody great big black Powder rifle with a a hexagonal barrel that is as long as I am tall and ammunition I have loaded amd bullets I have cast myself. Does anyone on here already do it? Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 LA longe carapi,long rifle favoured by early American settlers .You are in the wrong country for experiments of that nature mate .Bullet speed would determine its use in this country I guess as well as any black powder ownership issues .Your cast bullets would have to fit criteria too. Good luck though mate . Quote Link to post
Hydropotesinermis 724 Posted May 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Already have an explosives licence for black Powder so that's not an issue. I see where you are coming from with the bullet speed. That's why i was wondering of anyone was doing it now. I will do some serious research into the American stuff and whatbspeeds they are pushing etc etc. Quote Link to post
Underdog 2,337 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Bullet speed issues only apply in Scotland. Energy level requirement is easily achieved for England. As soft lead is the common expanding material part of an expanding bullet, soft lead bullets used in black powder cartridges or muzzleloaders is by default expanding. By the way, the barrels are octagon! Go for it, I would! U. Quote Link to post
Hydropotesinermis 724 Posted May 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Octagonal? Even cooler! Cheers Underdog. I'm going to f***ing do it! 1 Quote Link to post
fireman 10,917 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 I could get you a muntjac or a roe to pop at with a muzzle loader in south Norfolk if you want?,we have a full muzzle loader day on the shoot each year so big bangs and lots of smoke ain't a problem here Quote Link to post
Underdog 2,337 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 If you ever want to see the effectiveness of muzzleloaders on deer YouTube it and or visit themuzzleloadingforum. May see me there! Home office aka big brother won't grant a muzzleloading rifle for deer! They can't argue over metallic cartridges the fools!! Fortunately obtaining front loading smoothbore is easy ;-). Metallic cartridges and BP are easy, sometimes not needing and crimping! Avoid smokeless lubes! Make your own from beeswax and olive oil or candlewax and olive oil. You want to see a wet star at the muzzle, indicating plenty of lube keeping the fouling soft. If no star is present you may need to make a grease cookie. You can look them up. Keep in touch :-) U. Quote Link to post
Hydropotesinermis 724 Posted May 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Hey fireman. Thats a hell of a generous offer, i'd feel bad taking you up in it though as I have plenty stalking of my own. Maybe pass the favour on tona newbie? Thanks again forbthe tips Underdog. I'll look on that forum later. Quote Link to post
scraggoak 46 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Hi I shoot a .45 cal replica Hawkins Plains rifle and find it accurate out to around 120 yards using using a .44 lead ball and patch lubricated using Nivea hand cream as it is less prone to viscosity changes than other lubes. i can usually hit a six inch circle at 100 yards and would be happy to take boiler room shots on say Fallow out to around eighty yards, and it would have plenty of knock down power at that range, I know there is a black powder season in the usa but i think you would struggle to legally use it in the uk, Cheers Geoff Quote Link to post
Underdog 2,337 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Hi I shoot a .45 cal replica Hawkins Plains rifle and find it accurate out to around 120 yards using using a .44 lead ball and patch lubricated using Nivea hand cream as it is less prone to viscosity changes than other lubes. i can usually hit a six inch circle at 100 yards and would be happy to take boiler room shots on say Fallow out to around eighty yards, and it would have plenty of knock down power at that range, I know there is a black powder season in the usa but i think you would struggle to legally use it in the uk, Cheers Geoff Good for you bud. My 45 smoothrifle does that to about 50yds and also would be happy to use on an across the ribs shot. U. Quote Link to post
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